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A66174 A discourse of the Holy Eucharist, in the two great points of the real presence and the adoration of the Host in answer to the two discourses lately printed at Oxford on this subject : to which is prefixed a large historical preface relating to the same argument. Wake, William, 1657-1737. 1687 (1687) Wing W240; ESTC R4490 116,895 178

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of_o they_o the_o abbot_n of_o ville-loyne_n i_o have_v be_v assure_v by_o some_o of_o his_o intimate_a acquaintance_n that_o he_o have_v always_o a_o particular_a respect_n for_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o which_o other_o of_o their_o communion_n at_o this_o day_n esteem_v to_o be_v neither_o heretical_a nor_o schismatical_a v._o but_o i_o may_v not_o insist_v on_o these_o thing_n and_o will_v therefore_o finish_v this_o address_n with_o this_o only_a remonstrance_n to_o they_o that_o since_o it_o be_v thus_o evident_a that_o for_o above_o 1200_o year_n this_o doctrine_n be_v never_o establish_v in_o the_o church_n nor_o till_o then_o in_o the_o opinion_n of_o their_o own_o most_o learned_a man_n any_o matter_n of_o faith_n since_o the_o great_a of_o their_o writer_n in_o the_o past_a age_n have_v declare_v themselves_o so_o free_o concern_v it_o as_o we_o have_v see_v above_o and_o some_o of_o the_o most_o eminent_a of_o their_o communion_n in_o the_o present_n have_v ingenuous_o acknowledge_v that_o they_o can_v not_o believe_v it_o since_o it_o be_v confess_v that_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o require_v it_o sense_n and_o reason_n undoubted_o oppose_v it_o and_o the_o primitive_a age_n of_o the_o church_n as_o one_o of_o their_o own_o author_n have_v very_o late_o show_v receive_v it_o not_o they_o will_v at_o least_o suffer_v all_o these_o thing_n to_o dispose_v they_o to_o a_o indifferent_a examination_n wherefore_o at_o last_o it_o be_v that_o they_o do_v believe_v this_o great_a error_n upon_o what_o authority_n they_o have_v give_v up_o their_o sense_n to_o delusion_n their_o reason_n to_o embrace_v contradiction_n the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o antiquity_n to_o be_v submit_v to_o the_o dictate_v of_o two_o assembly_n which_o many_o of_o themselves_o esteem_v to_o have_v be_v rather_o cabal_n than_o council_n and_o all_o to_o support_v a_o doctrine_n the_o most_o injurious_a that_o can_v be_v to_o our_o saviour_n be_v honour_n destructive_a in_o its_o nature_n not_o only_o of_o the_o certainty_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n but_o of_o every_o thing_n else_o in_o the_o world_n which_o if_o transubstantiation_n be_v true_a must_v be_v all_o but_o vision_n for_o that_o can_v be_v true_a unless_o the_o sense_n of_o all_o mankind_n be_v deceive_v in_o judge_v of_o their_o proper_a object_n and_o if_o this_o be_v so_o we_o can_v then_o be_v sure_a of_o nothing_o these_o consideration_n if_o they_o shall_v incline_v they_o to_o a_o impartial_a view_n of_o the_o follow_a discourse_n they_o may_v possible_o find_v somewhat_o in_o they_o to_o show_v the_o reasonableness_n of_o our_o dissent_n from_o they_o in_o this_o matter_n however_o they_o shall_v at_o least_o i_o hope_v engage_v those_o of_o our_o own_o communion_n to_o stand_v firm_a in_o that_o faith_n which_o be_v thus_o strong_o support_v with_o all_o sort_n of_o argument_n and_o convince_v they_o how_o dangerous_a it_o be_v for_o man_n to_o give_v up_o themselves_o to_o such_o prejudices_fw-la as_o neither_o sense_n nor_o reason_n nor_o the_o word_n of_o god_n nox_fw-la the_o authority_n of_o the_o best_a and_o pure_a age_n of_o the_o church_n be_v able_a to_o overcome_v a_o table_n of_o the_o principal_a matter_n contain_v in_o this_o treatise_n preface_n the_o occasion_n of_o this_o discourse_n page_z i_z the_o method_n make_v use_v of_o for_o the_o explain_v the_o nature_n of_o this_o holy_a eucharist_n page_n four_o no_o proof_n of_o transubstantiation_n in_o holy_a scripture_n page_n five_o the_o rise_n and_o establishment_n of_o it_o page_n vi_o seven_o several_a of_o their_o great_a man_n before_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n believe_v it_o not_o page_n seven_o viij_o and_o many_o have_v even_o since_o continue_v to_o disbelieve_v it_o page_z x_o so_o picherellus_n page_n x_o cardinal_n du_fw-fr perron_n page_n xi_o f._n barnes_n page_n twelve_o mounseur_fw-fr de_fw-fr marca_n page_n xiii_o f._n sirmond_n page_n xv_o monsieur_n l_o page_n xvii_o mons_fw-la de_fw-fr marolles_n page_z ib._n other_o page_n xxiv_o etc._n etc._n consequence_n draw_v from_o these_o example_n i._o of_o the_o danger_n of_o the_o papist_n especial_o upon_o their_o own_o principle_n page_n xxvii_o with_o reference_n to_o this_o sacrament_n and_o therein_o to_o the_o 1._o consecration_n page_n xxvii_o 2._o adoration_n page_z ib._n 3._o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n page_n xxix_o 4._o mass_n page_n thirty_o with_o reference_n to_o their_o entire_a priesthood_n page_n xxxi_o ii_o against_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n page_n xxxiii_o iii_o against_o its_o authority_n page_n xxxiv_o iu_o as_o to_o the_o reasonableness_n of_o our_o reformation_n page_n xxxvi_o v._n that_o these_o thing_n ought_v to_o dispose_v those_o of_o that_o communion_n to_o a_o impartial_a search_n into_o the_o ground_n of_o their_o belief_n as_o to_o this_o matter_n page_n xxxvii_o part_n i._n the_o introduction_n of_o the_o nature_n of_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n in_o the_o general_n pag._n 1_o christ_n design_n in_o the_o institution_n of_o it_o pag._n 2_o that_o he_o establish_v it_o upon_o the_o ceremony_n of_o the_o jewish_a passover_n pag._n 3_o 4_o 5_o 6_o the_o method_n from_o hence_o take_v to_o explain_v the_o nature_n of_o it_o pag._n 6_o 7_o chap._n i._o of_o transubstantiation_n or_o the_o real_a presence_n establish_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n pag._n 8_o what_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o this_o point_n ib._n this_o show_v upon_o the_o principle_n before_o lay_v down_o to_o be_v repugnant_a 1._o to_o the_o design_n and_o nature_n of_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n pag._n 12_o 2._o to_o the_o expression_n itself_o this_o be_v my_o body_n pag._n 14_o the_o papist_n themselves_o sensible_a of_o it_o pag._n 18_o that_o the_o six_o of_o s._n john_n do_v not_o at_o all_o favour_n they_o pag._n 20_o this_o doctrine_n show_v further_o to_o be_v repugnant_a i._o to_o the_o best_a and_o pure_a tradition_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 24_o ii_o to_o the_o right_a reason_n pag._n 32_o iii_o to_o the_o common_a sense_n of_o all_o mankind_n pag._n 36_o conclusion_n of_o this_o point_n and_o transition_n to_o the_o next_o pag._n 37_o chap._n ii_o of_o the_o real_a presence_n acknowledge_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n 41_o the_o notion_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n false_o impute_v by_o a_o late_a author_n to_o our_o church_n 42_o in_o answer_n to_o this_o four_o thing_n propose_v to_o be_v consider_v i._n what_o be_v the_o true_a notion_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n as_o acknowledge_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n pag._n 43_o ii_o that_o this_o notion_n have_v be_v constant_o maintain_v by_o our_o most_o learned_a and_o orthodox_n divine_v pag._n 46_o so_o those_o abroad_o calvin_n pag._n 47_o beza_n pag._n 49_o martyr_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 51_o for_o our_o own_o divine_n consider_v the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o twenty_o nine_o article_n in_o k._n edw._n vi_o time_n pag._n 52_o archbishop_z cranmer_z pag._n 53_o bishop_n ridley_n pag._n 55_o that_o the_o same_o contain_v to_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o our_o divine_n after_o pag._n 56_o show_v 1._o from_o the_o history_n of_o the_o convocation_n proceed_v as_o to_o this_o point_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o q._n eliz._n reign_n ib._n 2._o from_o the_o testimony_n of_o our_o divine_n bp._n jewel_n pag._n 59_o mr._n hooker_n pag._n 60_o bp._n andrews_n pag._n 62_o a._n b._n of_o spalatto_n pag._n 64_o bp._n montague_n ib._n bp._n taylour_n pag._n 66_o mr._n torndyke_n pag._n 69_o who_o testimony_n be_v cite_v at_o large_a of_o 1._o reformatio_fw-la legum_n ecclesiasticarum_fw-la 2._o bp._n morton_n 3._o a._n b._n usher_n 4._o bp._n cousin_n 5._o dr._n jo._n white_a 6._o dr._n fr._n white_a 7._o dr._n jackson_n 8._o dr._n hammond_n who_o authority_n be_v refer_v to_o pag._n 71_o 72_o iii_o that_o the_o alteration_n which_o have_v be_v make_v in_o our_o rubric_n be_v not_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o our_o divine_n change_v their_o opinion_n as_o be_v vain_o and_o false_o suggest_v pag._n 72_o iu._n that_o the_o reason_n mention_v in_o our_o rubric_n concern_v the_o impossibility_n of_o christ_n natural_a body_n exist_v in_o several_a place_n at_o the_o same_o time_n be_v no_o way_n invalidate_v by_o any_o of_o this_o author_n exception_n against_o it_o pag._n 77_o 1._o not_o by_o his_o first_o observation_n ib._n 2._o nor_o by_o his_o second_o pag._n 79_o 3._o nor_o by_o his_o three_o pag._n 80_o 4._o nor_o by_o his_o four_o pag._n 81_o the_o objection_n of_o this_o opinion_n be_v downright_a zuinglianism_n answer_v pag._n 82_o and_o the_o whole_a conclude_v pag._n 84_o part_n ii_o chap._n iii_o of_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o host_n as_o prescribe_v and_o practise_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n two_o thing_n propose_v to_o be_v consider_v i._n what_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o
humane_a nature_n of_o christ_n still_o remain_v though_o assume_v by_o and_o conjoin_v to_o the_o divine_a which_o word_n as_o their_o editor_n have_v do_v well_o to_o set_v a_o cautè_fw-la upon_o in_fw-la the_o margin_n to_o signify_v their_o danger_n so_o this_o be_v clear_a from_o they_o that_o gelasius_n and_o so_o the_o other_o writer_n that_o have_v make_v use_n of_o the_o same_o argument_n as_o st._n chrysostome_n theodoret_n etc._n etc._n must_v have_v think_v the_o bread_n and_o the_o wine_n in_o the_o eucharist_n no_o more_o to_o have_v be_v real_o change_v into_o the_o very_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n than_o they_o do_v believe_v his_o humane_a nature_n to_o have_v be_v true_o turn_v into_o the_o divine_a for_o that_o otherwise_o the_o parallel_n will_v have_v stand_v they_o in_o no_o stead_n nay_o will_v have_v afford_v a_o defence_n of_o that_o heresy_n which_o they_o undertake_v to_o oppose_v by_o it_o vi_o yet_o more_o have_v the_o primitive_a christian_n believe_v this_o great_a change_n how_o come_v it_o to_o pass_v that_o we_o find_v none_o of_o those_o mark_v nor_o sign_n of_o it_o that_o the_o world_n have_v since_o abound_v with_o 4._o with_o see_v the_o contrary_n prove_v that_o the_o father_n do_v not_o believe_v this_o by_o blondel_n de_fw-mi l'euch_fw-ge c._n 8._o claude_n rep._n au_o 2._o traitte_fw-fr de_fw-fr la_fw-fr perpetuite_fw-fr part_n 1._o c._n 4._o no_o talk_n of_o accident_n exist_v without_o subject_n of_o the_o sense_n be_v liable_a to_o be_v deceive_v in_o judge_v of_o their_o proper_a object_n in_o short_a no_o philosophy_n corrupt_v to_o maintain_v this_o paradox_n no_o adoration_n procession_n vow_n pay_v to_o it_o as_o to_o christ_n himself_o it_o be_v but_o a_o very_a little_a time_n since_o the_o cit_fw-la the_o under_o greg._n ix_o ann._n 1240._o vid._n nauclerum_fw-la ad_fw-la ann._n cit_fw-la bell_n come_v in_o play_n to_o give_v the_o people_n notice_n that_o they_o shall_v fall_v down_o and_o worship_n this_o new_a god._n the_o 1264._o the_o institute_v by_o vrban_n four_o ann._n 1264._o feast_n in_o honour_n of_o it_o be_v a_o invention_n of_o yesterday_n the_o adore_v of_o it_o in_o the_o street_n no_o late_a no_o indeed_o in_o all_o probability_n a_o hundred_o year_n late_a old_a have_v not_o those_o first_o christian_n respect_n sufficient_a for_o our_o bless_a saviour_n or_o do_v they_o perhaps_o do_v all_o this_o let_v they_o show_v it_o we_o if_o they_o can_v but_o till_o then_o we_o must_v beg_v leave_n to_o conclude_v that_o since_o we_o find_v not_o the_o least_o footstep_n of_o any_o of_o these_o necessary_a appendage_n of_o this_o doctrine_n among_o the_o primitive_a christian_n it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v imagine_v that_o we_o shall_v find_v the_o opinion_n neither_o vii_o but_o this_o be_v not_o all_o we_o do_v not_o only_o not_o find_v any_o such_o proof_n as_o these_o of_o this_o doctrine_n but_o we_o find_v other_o instance_n direct_o contrary_a to_o this_o belief_n in_o some_o church_n they_o 8._o they_o so_o in_o that_o of_o jerusalem_n see_v hesych_n in_o levitic_n l._n 2._o c._n 8._o burn_v what_o remain_v of_o the_o consecrate_a element_n 35._o element_n so_o in_o that_o of_o constantinople_n evag._n hist_o l._n 4._o c._n 35._o in_o other_o they_o give_v it_o to_o little_a child_n to_o eat_v 18._o eat_v vid._n apud_fw-la author_n vit._n basilii_n c._n 8._o in_o vit._n pat._n l._n 1._o this_o custom_n be_v condemn_v in_o a_o council_n at_o carthage_n anno_fw-la 419._o vid._n codic_n eccl._n afric_n justel_n c._n 18._o in_o some_o they_o bury_v it_o with_o their_o dead_a in_o all_o they_o permit_v the_o communicants_a to_o carry_v home_o some_o remnant_n of_o they_o they_o send_v it_o abroad_o by_o sea_n by_o land_n from_o one_o church_n and_o village_n to_o another_o without_o any_o provision_n of_o bell_n or_o taper_n canopy_n or_o incense_n or_o any_o other_o mark_n of_o adoration_n they_o sometime_o make_v 164._o make_v vid._n st._n august_n oper._n imp_n contr_n julian_n lib._n 3._o c._n 164._o poultice_n of_o the_o bread_n they_o mix_v the_o syn._n the_o see_v a_o instance_n of_o this_o in_o baronius_n ann._n 648._o sect._n 15._o the_o 8_o general_n council_n do_v the_o same_o in_o act._n syn._n wine_n with_o their_o ink_n all_o which_o we_o can_v never_o imagine_v such_o holy_a man_n will_v have_v presume_v to_o do_v have_v they_o indeed_o believe_v they_o to_o be_v the_o very_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o bless_a lord_n viii_o last_o since_o the_o prevalence_n of_o this_o doctrine_n in_o the_o church_n what_o opposition_n have_v it_o meet_v with_o what_o schism_n have_v it_o cause_v what_o infinite_a debate_n have_v there_o rise_v about_o it_o i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o speak_v of_o the_o trouble_n of_o berenger_n in_o the_o eleven_o of_o the_o waldenses_n albigenses_n and_o other_o in_o the_o twelve_o century_n of_o wickliff_n hus_n etc._n etc._n who_o continue_v the_o opposition_n and_o final_o of_o the_o great_a reformation_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o last_o age_n by_o all_o which_o this_o heresy_n have_v be_v oppose_v ever_o since_o it_o come_v to_o any_o knowledge_n in_o the_o church_n now_o be_v it_o possible_a to_o be_v believe_v that_o so_o many_o century_n shall_v pass_v so_o many_o heresy_n shall_v arise_v and_o a_o doctrine_n so_o full_a of_o contradiction_n remain_v uncontested_a in_o the_o church_n for_o almost_o a_o thousand_o year_n that_o berenger_n shall_v be_v one_o of_o the_o first_o that_o shall_v begin_v to_o credit_v his_o sense_n to_o consult_v his_o reason_n or_o even_o to_o defend_v his_o creed_n these_o be_v improbability_n that_o will_v need_v very_o convince_a argument_n indeed_o to_o remove_v they_o but_o for_o the_o little_a late_a french_a trick_n of_o prove_v this_o doctrine_n necessary_a to_o have_v be_v receive_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n claude_n this_o be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o treatise_n de_fw-fr 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that_o it_o can_v not_o 5._o it_o be_v evident_a that_o some_o of_o they_o do_v err_v forasmuch_o as_o the_o very_a it_o very_a in_o the_o first_o formulary_a prescribe_v he_o by_o p._n nicholas_n 2._o in_o the_o siynod_n of_o rome_n 1059._o he_o thus_o declare_v panem_fw-la &_o vinum_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o altari_fw-la ponuntur_fw-la post_fw-la consecrationem_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la verum_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la d._n n._n j._n christi_fw-la esse_fw-la &_o sensualiter_fw-la non_fw-la solùm_fw-la sacramento_n say_v in_o veritate_fw-la manibus_fw-la sacerdotum_fw-la tractari_fw-la frangi_fw-la &_o fidelium_fw-la dentibus_fw-la atteri_fw-la the_o former_a part_n of_o which_o confession_n be_v lutheran_n the_o latter_a utter_o deny_v by_o the_o c._n of_o r._n at_o this_o day_n in_o the_o second_o formulary_a prescribe_v he_o by_o gregory_n viith_o 1078._o confiteor_fw-la panem_fw-la &_o vinum_fw-la converti_fw-la in_o veram_fw-la ac_fw-la propriam_fw-la carnem_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la j._n c._n d._n n._n et_fw-la post_fw-la consecrationem_fw-la esse_fw-la verum_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la non_fw-la tantùm_fw-la per_fw-la signum_fw-la &_o virtutem_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o proprietate_fw-la naturae_fw-la &_o veritate_fw-la substantiae_fw-la this_o speak_v of_o a_o conversion_n but_o of_o what_o kind_n it_o say_v not_o and_o lombard_n and_o the_o other_o schoolman_n to_o the_o very_a time_n of_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n be_v not_o agree_v about_o it_o and_o p._n gregory_n himself_o in_o his_o ms._n work_v upon_o st._n ma●_n know_v not_o what_o to_o think_v of_o it_o formulary_n of_o recantation_n prescribe_v to_o berengarius_fw-la do_v not_o agree_v the_o one_o with_o the_o other_o and_o one_o of_o they_o be_v such_o that_o their_o own_o asseruit_fw-la own_o jo._n semeca_n ad_fw-la can._n ego_fw-la berengar_fw-la not_o ad_fw-la jus_fw-la canon_n nisi_fw-la sanè_fw-la intelligas_fw-la 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