Selected quad for the lemma: sense_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
sense_n	doctrine_n	scripture_n	tradition_n	1,725	5	9.4842	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A65863	The divinity of Christ and unity of the three that bear record in heaven with the blessed end and effects of Christ's appearance, coming in the flesh, suffering and sacrifice for sinners, confessed and vindicated, by his followers, called Quakers : and the principal matters in controversie, between them, and their present opposers (as Presbyterians, Independants, &c.) considered and resolved, according to the scriptures of truth, and more particularly to remove the aspersions ... cast upon the ... Quakers ... in several books, written by Tho. Vincent, Will. Madox, their railing book, stil'd The foundation, &c, Tho. Danson, his Synopsis, John Owen, his Declaration / which are here examin'd and compared by G.W. ... ; as also, a short review of several passages of Edward Stillingfleet's ... in his discourse of the sufferings of Christ's and sermon preached before the King, wherein he flatly contradicts the said opposers.	Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.	1669 (1669)	Wing W1925; ESTC R19836	166,703	202

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as_o to_o his_o say_n that_o god_n can_v suffer_v be_v in_o one_o sense_n not_o true_a though_o he_o intend_v as_o to_o death_n yet_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n have_v suffer_v and_o have_v be_v grieve_v by_o man_n transgression_n the_o rebellious_a jew_n grieve_v and_o vex_v his_o holy_a spirit_n until_o he_o become_v their_o enemy_n and_o fight_v against_o they_o isa._n 63.10_o and_o do_v not_o the_o lord_n say_v behold_v i_o be_o press_v under_o you_o as_o a_o cart_n be_v press_v that_o be_v full_a of_o sheaf_n amos_n 2.13_o so_o do_v not_o he_o suffer_v in_o be_v press_v by_o they_o then_o and_o do_v not_o he_o say_v my_o heart_n be_v turn_v within_o i_o my_o repenting_n be_v kindle_v together_o i_o will_v not_o execute_v the_o fierceness_n of_o my_o anger_n i_o will_v not_o return_v to_o destroy_v ephraim_n for_o i_o be_o god_n and_o not_o man_n the_o holy_a one_o in_o the_o midst_n of_o thou_o hos._n 11.8_o 9_o do_v not_o herein_o his_o suffer_a and_o forbearance_n declare_v he_o to_o be_v god_n the_o holy_a one_o and_o not_o man_n rather_o than_o the_o execution_n of_o the_o fierceness_n of_o his_o anger_n and_o be_v not_o god_n be_v grieve_v by_o the_o rebellious_a jew_n a_o suffer_v when_o they_o harden_v their_o heart_n and_o provoke_v he_o in_o the_o wilderness_n for_o he_o say_v forty_o year_n long_o be_v i_o grieve_v with_o this_o generation_n psal._n 95._o therefore_o to_o day_n if_o you_o will_v hear_v his_o voice_n harden_v not_o your_o heart_n and_o do_v not_o god_n suffer_v long_o by_o the_o old_a world_n before_o he_o destroy_v they_o see_v when_o he_o see_v their_o wickedness_n it_o grieve_v he_o at_o his_o heart_n gen._n 6.6_o also_o he_o say_v his_o spirit_n shall_v not_o always_o strive_v with_o they_o vers_n 3._o so_o that_o his_o spirit_n do_v suffer_v and_o be_v grieve_v by_o they_o before_o they_o be_v destroy_v again_o how_o oft_o do_v they_o provoke_v he_o and_o grieve_v he_o in_o the_o desert_n psal._n 78.40_o and_o do_v not_o he_o complain_v against_o the_o people_n when_o they_o be_v rebellious_a and_o pollute_v say_v your_o new_a moon_n and_o your_o appoint_a feast_n my_o soul_n hate_v they_o be_v a_o trouble_n to_o i_o i_o be_o weary_a to_o bear_v they_o be_v not_o this_o trouble_n and_o be_v weary_a with_o they_o matter_n of_o suffer_v and_o be_v not_o this_o his_o suffer_v for_o some_o time_n before_o he_o do_v ease_v himself_o of_o his_o adversary_n and_o avenge_v he_o of_o his_o enemy_n see_v isa._n 1._o and_o also_o it_o be_v say_v chap._n 7.13_o hear_v you_o now_o you_o house_n of_o david_n be_v it_o a_o small_a thing_n to_o weary_a man_n but_o will_v you_o weary_v my_o god_n also_o and_o chap._n 43.24_o 25._o neither_o have_v thou_o fill_v i_o with_o the_o fat_a of_o thy_o sacrifice_n but_o thou_o have_v make_v i_o to_o serve_v with_o thy_o sin_n thou_o have_v weary_v i_o with_o thy_o iniquity_n i_o even_o i_o be_o he_o that_o blot_v out_o thy_o transgression_n for_o my_o own_o sake_n and_o will_v 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do_v apprehend_v more_o grace_n and_o mercy_n in_o god_n than_o we_o that_o say_v he_o can_v satisfy_v himself_o and_o christ_n as_o man_n can_v not_o satisfy_v he_o by_o finite_a suffer_v and_o the_o grace_n we_o ascribe_v we_o apprehend_v it_o only_o to_o extend_v to_o a_o few_o a_o select_a number_n etc._n etc._n have_v t.u._n speak_v this_o plain_o together_o people_z may_v the_o more_o easy_o have_v judge_v whether_o he_o have_v true_o ascribe_v or_o apprehend_v concern_v the_o grace_n of_o god_n and_o whether_o many_o thousand_o do_v not_o ascribe_v more_o grace_n and_o mercy_n to_o god_n that_o own_o it_o in_o the_o free_a and_o general_a extent_n of_o it_o to_o all_o man_n than_o he_o have_v do_v again_o his_o confess_v that_o god_n do_v execute_v his_o justice_n free_o as_o he_o do_v love_v his_o image_n in_o his_o people_n free_o yet_o both_o be_v necessary_a because_o natural_a and_o neither_o force_v nor_o compel_v by_o any_o external_n agent_n reply_n so_o here_o be_v a_o 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and_o his_o own_o notion_n and_o conception_n which_o be_v not_o ground_v on_o scripture_n and_o therefore_o we_o may_v not_o have_v our_o faith_n impose_v upon_o by_o they_o as_o to_o accept_v of_o his_o humane_a conception_n and_o notion_n which_o can_v reach_v the_o nature_n of_o god_n for_o divine_a verity_n and_o how_o say_v t._n d._n that_o infiniteness_n be_v a_o property_n of_o the_o divine_a nature_n agree_v to_o each_o person_n subsist_v in_o that_o nature_n contrary_a to_o his_o worthy_a master_n vincent_n saying_n that_o infiniteness_n be_v not_o ascribe_v unto_o the_o personality_n but_o such_o like_a confusion_n and_o conrradiction_n we_o have_v enough_o of_o from_o they_o and_o indeed_o such_o nonsensical_a stuff_n as_o be_v in_o both_o their_o pamphlet_n i_o have_v seldom_o meet_v withal_o as_o one_o while_n t._n d._n say_v we_o do_v not_o affirm_v the_o person_n in_o the_o godhead_n to_o be_v finite_a but_o infinite_a another_o while_n t._n v._o say_v infiniteness_n be_v not_o ascribe_v to_o they_o 14._o another_o while_n t._n d._n say_v pag._n 14._o that_o they_o be_v one_o among_o themselves_o only_o in_o respect_n of_o that_o wherein_o they_o agree_v not_o simple_o what_o kind_n of_o oneness_n or_o agreement_n do_v he_o reckon_v be_v in_o the_o deity_n if_o it_o be_v not_o simple_o be_v there_o ever_o such_o darkness_n and_o confusion_n utter_v and_o what_o blind_a sophistry_n and_o silly_a logic_n and_o babble_n do_v these_o man_n use_v and_o put_v upon_o the_o immortal_a god_n who_o with_o all_o their_o invention_n airy_a notion_n and_o vain_a conception_n they_o can_v never_o reach_v the_o knowledge_n of_o neither_o will_n nor_o can_v their_o heathenish_a philosophy_n term_n of_o aristotle_n nor_o apostate_n christian_n and_o papist_n demonstrate_v or_o discover_v the_o knowledge_n of_o either_o father_n 16._o word_n or_o spirit_n to_o any_o people_n that_o want_v the_o knowledge_n thereof_o but_o make_v they_o more_o dark_a and_o ignorant_a 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