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A61552 The doctrines and practices of the Church of Rome truly represented in answer to a book intituled, A papist misrepresented, and represented, &c. Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1686 (1686) Wing S5590; ESTC R21928 99,480 174

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into_o that_o which_o have_v and_o consequent_o the_o change_n must_v be_v into_o the_o divine_a nature_n principal_o from_o whence_o it_o will_v follow_v the_o element_n lose_v their_o subsistence_n upon_o consecration_n the_o divinity_n must_v be_v unite_v hypostatical_o to_o they_o as_o to_o the_o human_a nature_n and_o so_o there_o will_v be_v as_o many_o hypostatical_a union_n as_o there_o be_v consecration_n and_o so_o this_o doctrine_n not_o only_o confound_v sense_n and_o reason_n but_o the_o mystery_n of_o christ_n incarnation_n too_o which_o i_o think_v be_v sufficient_a for_o this_o head_n vi_o of_o merit_n and_o good_a work_n for_o the_o true_a state_v this_o controversy_n we_o be_v to_o observe_v 1._o that_o we_o do_v not_o charge_v those_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o they_o believe_v christ_n death_n and_o passion_n to_o be_v ineffectual_a and_o insignificant_a and_o that_o they_o have_v no_o dependence_n on_o the_o merit_n of_o his_o suffering_n or_o the_o 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