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A17191 A most godly and learned discourse of the woorthynesse, authoritie, and sufficiencie of the holy scripture also of the cleerenesse, and plainnesse of the same, and of the true vse thereof. Wherin is discussed this famous question: whether the canonical scriptures haue authoritie from the church, or rather the church receiue authoritie from the Scriptures. By occasion wherof are touched the dignities and duties of the church, touching traditions, with aunswere to all obiections. Translated out of Latine into English, by Iohn Tomkys: and dedicated to the right honorable Sir Richarde Pipe, knight, lorde maior of the citie of London.; De scripturae sanctae praestantia. English. Tomkys, John.; Bullinger, Heinrich, 1504-1575. 1579 (1579) STC 4067; ESTC S112817 96,469 260

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me nothing else to teache thee but to expounde to thee the wordes of the teachers In Gratian his xi decree and third question whiche beginneth Is qui post you shall finde these woordes Let him be accompted as a false witnesse and a committer of sacriledge which saieth anie thing or commaundeth a●ie thing beside the will of God or ●eside that which is euidētly cōmaun●ed in holie scriptures Iohn Gerson in the first parte of the ●xamination of doctrines citeth a cer●aine glose vpon this place There appea●ed vnto them Moses and Elias talking ●ith him which is this Euerie reuela●ion is suspected which the lawe and ●he Prophetes and the Gospell doe ●ot confirme Hierome vpon the Epistle to Titus ●aieth Babling without the authori●ie of the scriptures hath no credite Basil in the sermon of the true and god●ie faith saith thus If the Lord be faith●ull in all his woordes and if all his ● commaundements be faithfull then ●s the falling from the faith in Greeke 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and the crime of pride manifest namely either to refuse any of ●hose thinges which are written in the Scriptures or to bring in anie thing which is not written in the Scriptures considering that our Lord Iesus Christ hath sayde My sheepe heare my voice And a little before he saide also A stranger will they in no wise followe but will flee from him for they knowe not the voyce of straungers And the Apostle by a humane example doeth vehemently forbidde either to adde anie thing to the holy scriptures or to take any thing from them when as he saith Though it be but a mans Testament yet if it be allowed no man reiecteth it or addeth thereto The same Basil saieth also in his eighty rule of morals and xxi Chapter What is the propertie of the faithful Euen this to be throughly persuaded in his minde that those thinges are true and effectuall which are vttered in the Scripture and to reiect nothing or to presume to deuise any newe thing For if whatsoeuer is not of faith be sinne as saith the Apostle and if faith commeth by hearing and of hearing commeth the woorde of GOD without doubte when any thing is without the holie Scripture which cannot bee of fayth it is of sinne Theophilact vpon the Epistle to the Romanes the last Chapter saith They which bring any thing beside the doctrine of the Apostles bring in offēces ●nd heresies and dissentions Chrysostome vppon the Epistle to the Romanes the last Homilie saith There●ore there will be none offences there ●ill be no discordes except some doctrine shal be deuised which is contra●y to the doctrine of the Apostles Origen vpon Mathew the xxv Ho●ilie faith For the proofe of all the ●oordes which wee vtter in our do●trine wee ought to bring foorth the ●ense and meaning of the Scripture to ●onfirme that sense which wee expoūd ●or euen as all the golde whatsoeuer ●s without the temple is not halow●d so euery sense which is without ho●ie scripture although it seeme to some ●oonderfull is not holy because it ●s not contayned in the sense of the Scripture Therefore we may not for the ●onfirmation of our owne doctrine take ●ur owne interpretatiōs except it may be shewed that they are holy because they ●re contayned in the holy Scriptures as in certaine temples of God. Ambrose in his fourth booke of Virginitie sayeth We doe rightly condemne all newe thinges which Christ hath not taught because Christ is the way to the faithful Therefore if Christ haue not taught that which we haue we our selues iudge it also detestable It appeareth also by the most graue sentences of the Fathers that it is a verie greate wickednesse yea accursed and execrable vngodlines to preach any thing in the Churche of God beside the holie Scripture Wherefore I exhorte you whose vsuall manner is and that with great solemnitie to preache beside the Scripture and to abuse the simplicitie of Christian people whom you make madde with your dutifulnesse and subtill reasoning and whom you bewitch being wakened with so manie moste graue sentences of the men of God to acknowledge your detestable boldenesse vanitie and rashenesse and to leaue it of For if we beleeue Tertullian you ought to be afrayd of that curse which is pronounced against them which adde to the Scripture or take from it If we geue credite to Ambrose and Augustine you are accursed you are detestable you are wiser than you ought to be and you walke in a cloude If we credite Gratian his decree you are the false witnesses of God and committers of sacriledge If wee will geue eare to Basil you are manifestly fallen from the fayth you are stayned with the crime of pride and you teache sinnes If we hearken to Chrysostome and Theophilact you bring in offences heresies and dissentions If wee be of Origens and Hieromes mind you bee prophane and vaine bablers which deserue no credite Therefore either cast awaie and treade vnderfoote the authoritie and consente of the auncient Fathers by your wicked impudencie or else confesse your selues to be as you are euen wicked and cursed persons and repent with the true sorowe of the hearte and with true groninges The xii Chapter That the true Churche is to be sought in the Scripture to be included therein and to be esteemed by the Scriptures CHrist pronounceth in the Gospel that they are of God which heare God his words that they are his sheepe which confesse his voyce to be the voice of the Shepheard and esteeme the voice of euerie one else to bee the voyce of a straunger By the same reason the spirite by the mouth of Paule doeth pronounce that the Churche is built vppon the foundation of the Prophetes and Apostles And that the Church is sanctified vnto the Lord in the foūtaine of water in the word of life He teacheth vs the same more plainely by the mouth of Peter also whē as he instructeth vs that the people of God are borne anew of incorruptible seede by the word of God which liueth lasteth for euer To be briefe the preaching of the Gospel is called the kingdome of God wherby the heauenly king gouerneth his people Therfore God his word is the chiefest marke to knowe the church by commended vnto vs euen by the Lorde himselfe For this cause Augustine disputing against Petilian what the church is and where it is will not haue it sought pointed forth in the wordes and rumours of men nor in Councels nor in signes and wonders but in the Canonicall Scriptures Let vs not heare saith he this say I this saiest thou But this sayth the Lord There be the bookes of the Lorde vnto whose authoritie both of vs do agree both of vs yeeld credit There let vs seeke the Church there let vs discusse our cause Againe Let those ●hings
therein Therefore if it be eyther commaunded in the Gospel or conteined in the Epistles and Actes of the Apostles let this holy tradition be also obserued Also Basill in his third booke against Eunomius hath Our Baptisme is according to the very tradition of the Lord in the name of the father and of the Sonne of the holy Ghoste And it is a pointe of diligence to marke where the olde Writers vse the woorde Tradition in this sense For wheresoeuer the Papistes finde this woorde they wrest it foorthwith to their traditions with they cannot prooue foorth of the Scripture Secondly the olde writers by this woord Tradition vnderstand the articles of our fayth which are conteined in the Apostles Creede as we haue lately declared more clerely than the light it selfe forth of Irenaeus and Tertullian Which writers propose the saide badge or Creed as a perfect rule of faith whervnto there may nothing be added and from the which there may nothing be takē which remaining whole men may safely inquire of all thinges Thirdly by the woorde Tradition the fathers vnderstand a sentence or meaning not expressed woorde for woorde in the holy Scriptures but gathered by the true interpretation thereof which the Apostles preached with liuely voyce and their auditours and successours deliuered vnto vs and conserued as for example that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifieth a person that there are in the diuine nature three persons and yet one and the selfe same substance that the Sonne is coequall with the Father and of one substance with him that there be two natures in Christ the Lord and yet but one person that the holy Ghost is to be woorshipped and glorified together with the father and the Sonne that the flesh of Christ is of one substance with vs that infantes ought of right to be baptized others of this kinde which although we reade not expressed in the oracular scripture yet haue we learned by the authoritie of the auncient Fathers and most graue Councels that they are to be vnderstode by the meaning and vnderstanding of the Scriptures And this vnderstanding is not to be separated from the scripture it selfe forsomuch as it may be conteined therein either as the definition in the definitiue or as the conclusiō in the premisses And although the tradition of the Church haue shewed vnto vs the scripture and vnderstanding thereof yet hath it not bestowed authoritie vpon it which it hath greffed in it frō god For they frō whō we haue receiued this tradition are onely witnesses of the heauenly doctrine and not authours therof VVhereof we haue reasoned plentifully in the place belonging therevnto Lastly where the olde writers make mention of traditions they doe not entreate of the doctrine of faith to be receiued without and beside the Scripture although it can be prooued by no testimonie of Scripture but they speake of certaine olde rites which for their antiquitie they ascribed to the Apostles Part of the rites seeme to take their beginning from the Apostles and parte of them are vnwoorthie such authours But we haue declared alreadie by what rule such manner of rites are to be prooued and examined Nowe since that this woorde Tradition is so diuersly vsed of the fathers truely it is wicked sophistrie to intermeddle all these thinges without difference that superstitions being deriued partly frō the Iewes partly frō the Ethniks may haue their defence maintenance without the scripture vnder the cloke title of traditions The xxiiii Chapter Of the vncertaintie repugnancie and varietie of traditions AND their madnesse is to be noted and auoyded which will haue the ●ertaintie of doctrine to depend rather of ●e authority of traditiōs of those things ●hich they call 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 vnwritten thā of ●e scriptures this especially cōsidered that ●●ey cānot prooue vnto vs the traditiōs of 〈◊〉 apostles gathered described any where ●se but in the scriptures neither can they ●ooue that the traditions which by this ●tle they commend come frō the Apostles ●●eir authours There be traditions reci●●d by the fathers in diuers places as re●●iued frō the Apostles but those traditi●●s w they gather are partly abolished partly do not wel agree one with an other ●hervpon it commeth to passe that al tra●●tions are not to be esteemed Apostolike ●ither can the faith of christians be hol● vp with so weake feble a foūdation as ●e traditions which faith must stand vn●nquered against al the engines of hell ●here was a tradition in Tertulliās time ●t milke honie should be giuen foorth ●●th them which were baptized where with as he saieth they might bee fedde like infantes It was a tradition in the time of Cyprian and Augustine that the Euchariste and that vnder both kinds shoulde be geuen to infantes and shoulde be so giuen as necessarie to saluation Hierom in his Commentaries vppon Matthewe Chapter 25. sayeth that the tradition of the Apostles remained That in the day of the vigiles of Easter it was not lawfull to let the people goe looking for the comming of Christe before midnight Although these and other like bee read in olde writers vnder the title of the traditions of the Apostles yet are they a bolished are obserued now in no nation so that Tertullian wrote well in his book Of couering virgins There is altogeather one rule of faith onely vnmoueable irreformable to beleeue in one God almightie maker of the worlde and in his Sonne Iesus Christ borne of the Virgin Marie crucified vnder Pontius Pilate raysed againe the thirde day from the dead receiued in heauen sitting now at the right hande of the Father to come to iudge the quicke and the dead euen by the resurrection of the flesh This Lawe of faith remaining al other points of discipline conuersatiō admit the newnesse of correction the grace of God working and profiting euen vnto the ende Thus much hath that flourishing Septimius Tertullian Therfore the onely rule of faith grounded in the Scripture hath runne on euen from the beginning of the Gospell vnchangeable vnmoueable and vnreformeable when as in the meane season rites and traditions be mutable variable and such as may somtimes be taken away and sometimes restored againe The west churches in progresse of time inioyned the Lawe of single life to the ministers of Churches cōtrarily the east Church euen vnto this day will haue mariage to be lawfull for them Wherevpon Stephanus Bishoppe of Rome saith The Tradition of the east Churches is after one sorte and of this holy Church of Rome after an other sorte For their Priestes Deacons and Subdeacons are maried but none of the Priestes of this Church or of the west churches frō the Subdeacon to the Blshop hath licence to marie It was an Apostolical traditiō at Ephesus and in Asia that Easter should be kept after the maner of the Iewes Again the Apostolicall traditiō in