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A67211 Primitive Christianity continued in the faith and practice of the people called Quakers being in answer to a pamphlet entituled, Primitive heresie &c. and which may serve as an appendix to a book entituled, An antidote against the venom of the snake in the grass, by George Whitehead / Joseph Wyeth. Wyeth, Joseph, 1663-1731. 1698 (1698) Wing W3761; ESTC R27627 39,601 74

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is their own this W. Penn further speaks to in p. 51. his words are For the reasonable part of Man is his Spiritual part and that guided by the Divine 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Word which Tertullian interprets Reason in the most Excellent Sense makes Man truly reasonable and then it is that Man comes to offer up himself to God a Reasonable Sacrifice In what plainer words can a Man own Man's Reason and God's Revelation the first as it is Natural and the other as it is Divine He leaves W. Penn at present and turns to Edw. Burroughs p. 17. of his Works from whence he makes a Quotation but hath abused the Sence of the place by leaving out the two following Sentences and then the place is thus I wrote not as from Man whose Light is ONLY Natural and Carnal and doth ONLY make manifest Carnal Transgressions of a Carnal Law but as from the Eternal and Spiritual Light which doth make manifest Spiritual Transgressions of a Spiritual Law From this place John Stalham would fastly conclude that Edw. Burroughs called the Light of Christ Carnal which that he did not I think is very plain And accordingly Richard Hubberthorn p. 144. says That we do not allow any to call the Light of Christ Jesus Natural but the Light of Man by which Carnal Men do judge of Carnal Transgressions So that W. Penn and both these do allow the Natural Reason or Light of Man to be one thing and the Divine Revelations of the Holy Spirit another so that they do all plainly agree in the One Holy Spirit or Light of Christ Jesus given in measure to all Men to guide them and this W. Penn hath not opposed nor the reasonable Understanding of Man as this would falsly suggest He comes back to p. 29. where he would have W. Penn to Suppose that nothing but the Divine Light could reprove of Evil. But I have look'd and find no such Supposition and therefore no further notice need be taken of the Consequences he draws as depending on that Supposition Yet nevertheless I may add That as no one knows the things of God but by the Spirit of God so if Man do attend upon the Manifestation of this Holy Spirit it will discover to him all that is Reproveable and without which by any reason of his own he cannot make such Discovery and by its Power it can and if Man be Obedient it will enable him to turn from that which it does so Discover and Reprove him for This is that sure Basis upon which being fixed we easily reject all Guileful Pretences to the contrary And tho' this Man may have a great Opinion of his Wise Charming p. 24. yet I never understood that the Hissing of a Snake was Wise Charming Now if any go from the Spirit of God into Delusions is that reason sufficient why none shall depend upon the Guidance of the Spirit of God Because there have been innumerable Falsly pretended Miracles must we therefore believe no true Ones No the Effect it ought to have should be quite otherwise have others by Disobedience and leaving of their Guide fallen into Delusion let me therefore attend my Watch more closly have others by forsaking their True Guide the Holy Spirit been given up to believe Lies let me keep close to it that it be not so with me But if instead of this Men will pretend to subject the Unerring Spirit of God to be tried by the Erring Spirit of Man as it is not Scriptural so neither is it safe nay it cannot be safe if to the Spirit of Man they add all Study all meer Humane Endeavour all Communities Ordinances Histories or Humane Learning all these will not Poise the Ballance where the Spirit of God is wanting nor can any of these perform that excellent Office of the Spirit of Truth which our Saviour hath Infallibly Assured will lead into all Truth and when we have all Truth what Spiritual Good can we want And this destroys not the Freedom of Man's Will nor Understanding nor extinguishes his Humane Page 26 27. Reason but on the contrary exalts and enobles all the Powers and Faculties of the Mind So that it is utterly impossible for a Man under the Guidance of the Spirit of Truth to make God the Author of Sin Nor does this Principle arraign the Wisdom of God in his Ordinances but shews forth his Good Will to Men in that he has not only sent forth the Spirit of Truth but also sends forth his Servants guided by it to call the People into Obedience to it And thus God is pleased to work mediately and immediately Here in p. 29. he would seem to approve and congratulate W. Penn upon his Exposition of Justification but his Assent or Dissent we value not nor our selves for its sake but the Doctrine is true and hath from the first been professed by us But to remind him a little How is it possible for us to be Orthodox herein as he says we are and Heretical in the Articles which relate to Christ Jesus as God and as Man by and through whom Justification comes But Self-contradiction is no new thing to this Man He now numbers up in Page 30 31 32. divers things wherein he would fain have the Church and us agree they not being sufficient as he says for Separation This Man is of a very changeable Humour in his Title and for near all the Book we were Sad Hereticks but now he would have us Associates which if we will not be he gives a Threatning Advertisement that he will Trump up more Heresies upon us Well in that let him do as God shall permit but of two things he may be assured that we shall have no Communion with his Lies nor he true Peace in persisting in them FINIS BOOKS Printed and Sold by T. 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they are no other than the Doctrines which our Lord Jesus Christ did reveal and which his Apostles did Preach and which after a time of great Apostacy have been again Preached and by a Sincere Belief whereof in Obedience to Christ Jesus Men may be enabled to distinguish between Light and Darkness And notwithstanding they have been and are withstood by Men of Corrupt Minds who would pervert the Way of the Upright who cover themselves with all Deceiveableness of Unrighteousness yet they must Thrive and Prosper for God hath Promised He will Establish Truth in the Earth And though this Man pretends to say that we now begin to Complain of Misrepresention it is wrong for it is what we have had cause to Complain of and what we have Complained of from Truths and our Enemies from the first And tho' every Adversary in their turn may not have been so Violently Base in slitting Sentences and Transposing them and taking one part of our Words and leaving out others Explanatory as this Man has been as is here before shewn and proved yet we have had occasion sufficient to shew wherein we have been Misrepresented by our Adversaries which yet hath often had this good Effect that many Berean-like have applied themselves to see whether those things were so or no and finding their Charges False have been drawn to Love and Espouse that Truth which hath been thus almost every where spoken against and to Worship God in that Way which some call Heresie Now Jesus Christ the Truth and the Light which comes by him hath since we have been a People been always Testified to by us as that which is the only True Guide of Men in matters Eternal and of Soul Concernment and do continue to be so Preached and Testified of of which the few foregoing Instances are proof and that we are not changed And we have and do continue to say That whoever sets up any other Guide in Opposition to this Truth and Light of Jesus Christ or prefers any other thing before it they have not a right Ground of Faith but all that are Obedient to this certain and right Ground of Faith according to the Degree manifested unto them we really own by what Name soever called And the Degrees of our Friendship and true Communion in Spiritual Matters is according to this Rule and against it we cannot make Composition because we know by good Authority and Experience whatsoever is reprovable is made manifest by the Light And though it is possible for this Snake in the Grass to imitate an Explanation of the Light within and for the Devil to transform himself into an Angel of Light yet they can no more be said to be guided by the Light than the Devil might be said to be Refreshed by the Sweets of Paradise when he came to Destroy them Nor can they that abide in the Light have any Union at all with the Unfruitful Works of Darkness By the Title and Contents of his Charge this Snake would suggest us to Hereticks but now in the Conclusion he softens the Term and brings it down to Separation which he would not have kept up by which he seems to arrogate the Title of Mediator which Quality cannot be well performed but by one admitted on both sides which this Snake is so far from being that I may affirm he is chosen by neither for I can have no ground to believe That a Rebellious Son whatsoever he may be for a Subject can be dignified with Credentials to mediate her Cause whose Head he hath denied and I am very sure that we shall never chuse him for Mediator who we find is disposed to say any thing of us rather than what is right and seems to have the reverse of that Quality which Midas is Fabled to have had of turning all he touch'd into Gold for what of ours this Man's Pen touches he commonly turns it to Poyson As for what respects our nearness of Belief with the other Communities of Men in the Nation I am so far from being Sorry that others acknowledge the Light of Christ Jesus that I hope I shall always rejoyce in it and in a Life obedient to it into which Obedience as the whole Nation comes their Separations will be less and their Union more and greater under that one Eternal Head Who by one Offering hath perfected Heb. 10. 14 15. for ever them that are sanctified Whereof also the Holy Ghost is a Witness to us The Expostulation with W. Penn Considered I Have before shewed that our Principles are now no other than what they were when first a People and that they are confonant to the Holy Scriptures so that that Book of William Penn's Entituled Primitive Christianity c. is no new Representation concerning which Book somewhat is now to be said at least to places quoted and cavilled at by this Snake and he first quotes p. 29. and says W. Penn will not grant we have any Natural Light at all which is an Abuse and Perversion for W. Penn denies not Natural Light to Men but that by it they can understand the things of God is what W. Penn in that place speaks of and this is agreeable to the Apostle who hath told us That the things of God are not to be known but by the Spirit of God He next turns to George Fox's Great Mystery p. 42. where he as plainly perverts the Sence of this place as the last for the Tenet opposed by George Fox was That no Man by that Native Light inherent in him had power to believe And G. Fox had reason to oppose this Tenet because it appears p. 39. Great Mystery what his Adversary did mean by Native and Inherent Light viz. That Light wherewith every one that cometh into the World is enlightned withall This was what George Fox did preach and which the Priest did oppose and therefore G. Fox answers it with the Text of John 1. 9. and concludes from it and that very truly that this Light is beyond Natural Sense and Reason He returns again to W. Penn's Prim. Chris p. 15. where he says W. Penn allows no Natural Light to the Vnderstanding which is a manifest Perversion of the place the words alledged are Man can no more be a Light to his Mind than he can to his Body But if this Man had been so Honest as to have also transcribed out of the same Paragraph these words viz. About those things that more immediately concern our Better Inward and Eternal Man he would have found his Cavil useless and his Flout would have appeared as flat as now his Charge appears False and he may take his grains of Allowance again The Snake leaps from p. 15 to 50 and here thinks fit to carp and bite at this Expression All Men have Reason but all are not Reasonable Where 's the Riddle Jest or Nonsence of this Passage Men have Reason in potentia but if they will not use it the Fault