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part_n will_v burn_v all_o his_o argument_n against_o it_o and_o make_v public_a amends_o amends_o 25_o ii_o again_o catholic_n have_v for_o their_o rational_a ground_n of_o follow_v this_o sense_n in_o opposition_n to_o any_o other_o give_v by_o sectary_n the_o declaration_n of_o it_o by_o the_o most_o supreme_a and_o universal_a church-authority_n that_o have_v be_v assemble_v in_o former_a time_n for_o the_o decision_n of_o this_o controversy_n long_o before_o the_o birth_n of_o protestantism_n a_o brief_a account_n of_o which_o council_n to_o the_o number_n of_o seven_o or_o eight_o if_o the_o second_o nicene_n act._n 6._o tom_n 3._o be_v reckon_v with_o the_o rest_n before_o that_o of_o trent_n all_o agree_v in_o the_o same_o sentence_n see_v concern_v the_o guide_n in_o controversy_n disc_n 1._o 1._o 57_o etc._n etc._n out_o of_o the_o number_n of_o which_o council_n say_v to_o establish_v such_o a_o doctrine_n as_o bishop_n cousin_n hist_o transub_fw-la c._n 7._o p._n 149._o 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expect_v i._n e._n not_o hold_v before_o some_o controversy_n happen_v in_o the_o church_n touch_v the_o point_n they_o decide_v catholic_n still_o have_v another_o very_a rational_a ground_n of_o such_o a_o sense_n of_o the_o divine_a writ_n viz._n the_o evident_a testimony_n of_o the_o more_o primitive_a time_n which_o that_o they_o have_v convey_v the_o tradition_n of_o such_o a_o sense_n to_o the_o present_a church_n and_o to_o these_o former_a council_n to_o repeat_v what_o have_v be_v say_v already_o in_o consideration_n on_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n trent_n 321._o n._n 1._o because_o perhaps_o by_o scarcity_n of_o copy_n that_o book_n may_v come_v to_o few_o hand_n i_o think_v will_v be_v clear_a to_o any_o one_o not_o much_o interest_v that_o shall_v at_o his_o leisure_n spend_v a_o few_o hour_n in_o a_o public_a library_n to_o read_v entire_a and_o not_o by_o quote_v parcel_n the_o discourse_n on_o this_o subject_a of_o st._n ambros_n de_fw-fr myster_n init_fw-la cap._n 9_o the_o author_n de_fw-fr sacramentis_fw-la ascribe_v to_o the_o same_o father_n 4._o l._n 4_o and_o 5._o chapter_n cyril_n hierosol_n cateche_n mystagog_n 4_o &_o 5._o chrysost_o in_o matt._n hom._n 83._o in_o act._n hom._n 21._o in_o 1_o cor._n hom._n 24._o greg._n nissen_n orat._n catechet_n ch_n 36_o 37._o euseb_n emissen_n or_o caesarius_n arelatensis_fw-la de_fw-fr paschate_n serm._n 5._o hilarius_n pictav_n de_fw-fr trinitate_fw-la the_o former_a part_n of_o the_o 8_o book_n cyril_n alexand._n in_o evangel_n joan._n l._n 10._o c._n 13._o concern_v the_o authenticalness_n of_o which_o piece_n enough_o also_o have_v be_v say_v elsewhere_o elsewhere_o 27_o iu._n in_o a_o consequence_n of_o and_o succession_n from_o this_o doctrine_n of_o those_o primitive_a time_n and_o of_o the_o late_a council_n of_o the_o church_n when_o this_o point_n be_v bring_v into_o some_o dispute_n and_o controversy_n a_o catholic_n have_v for_o a_o rational_a ground_n of_o his_o faith_n and_o practice_n the_o universal_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o late_a
presence_n of_o christ_n body_n to_o be_v in_o with_o or_o under_o the_o element_n immediate_o upon_o and_o by_o the_o consecration_n of_o they_o which_o consecration_n also_o he_o place_v l._n 3.4_o c._n p._n 24._o in_o the_o blessing_n of_o the_o element_n before_o the_o break_n etc._n etc._n mention_v before_o before_o 7._o look_v back_o now_o upon_o all_o these_o plea_n of_o catholic_n and_o see_v if_o they_o will_v not_o make_v up_o at_o least_o a_o reasonable_a ground_n or_o motive_n of_o their_o adoration_n a_o reasonable_a ground_n i_o say_v not_o here_o what_o i_o may_v sufficient_v to_o secure_v their_o faith_n from_o all_o suspicion_n of_o error_n but_o which_o serve_v my_o purpose_n to_o secure_v they_o from_o idolatry_n in_o their_o adoration_n though_o they_o shall_v be_v mistake_v when_o as_o other_o person_n because_o proceed_v on_o like_o reasonable_a motive_n be_v by_o protestant_n in_o their_o adoration_n of_o a_o mistake_a presence_n or_o object_n excuse_v from_o it_o see_v before_o before_o 8._o as_o for_o example_n the_o lutheran_n the_o adorer_n of_o one_o much_o resemble_v our_o lord_n here_o on_o earth_n the_o adorer_n of_o a_o unconsecrated_a host_n or_o wafer_n place_v on_o the_o altar_n etc._n etc._n especial_o when_o catholic_n in_o credit_v such_o divine_a revelation_n of_o christ_n presence_n and_o so_o for_o their_o adoration_n receive_v no_o contradiction_n as_o it_o be_v pretend_v they_o do_v from_o their_o sense_n because_o they_o adore_v i_o mean_v with_o divine_a adoration_n nothing_o visible_a or_o sensible_a at_o all_o nor_o any_o substance_n invisible_a wherein_o any_o thing_n that_o occur_v to_o their_o sense_n inhere_n but_o only_o understand_v christ_n body_n present_v thou_o where_o their_o sense_n can_v no_o way_n certain_o and_o against_o any_o pretend_a divine_a revelation_n inform_v they_o either_o when_o it_o be_v present_a or_o not_o since_o salvis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la phaenomenis_fw-la all_o appearance_n grant_v most_o true_a such_o a_o presence_n be_v possible_a sect_n 29_o these_o rational_a ground_n of_o catholic_n for_o adoration_n which_o we_o expect_v shall_v have_v be_v most_o strict_o examine_v by_o those_o who_o conclude_v the_o roman_a practice_n herein_o idolatry_n be_v slight_o pass_v over_o by_o daille_n in_o pronounce_v that_o this_o error_n of_o catholic_n vient_fw-fr toute_fw-fr entiere_fw-fr de_fw-fr leur_fw-fr passion_n apolog._n des_fw-fr eglis_n reform_v c._n 11._o p._n 90._o and_o after_o in_o reduce_v all_o their_o ground_n thereof_o to_o a_o la_fw-fr seule_fw-fr authorite_n du_fw-fr pape_n &_o the_o son_n concile_v and_o by_o dr._n taylor_n real_a pres_n pres_n 13._o p._n 346._o in_o call_v they_o some_o trifle_a pretence_n make_v out_o of_o some_o say_n of_o the_o father_n elsewhere_o indeed_o when_o he_o be_v in_o a_o more_o charitable_a temper_n liberty_n of_o prophe_n p._n 258._o he_o say_v that_o for_o a_o motive_n to_o such_o a_o opinion_n roman_a catholic_n have_v a_o divine_a revelation_n who_o literal_a and_o grammatical_a sense_n if_o that_o sense_n be_v intend_v will_v warrant_v they_o to_o do_v violence_n to_o all_o the_o science_n in_o the_o circle_n but_o prudent_o there_o omit_v their_o plea_n of_o catholic_n tradition_n secure_v to_o they_o such_o a_o literal_a sense_n of_o the_o text._n dr._n stillingfleet_n rom._n idol_n c._n 2._o 2._o 7._o say_v first_o that_o if_o a_o mistake_n in_o this_o case_n will_v excuse_v the_o romanist_n it_o will_v excuse_v the_o gross_a idolatry_n in_o the_o world._n and_o in_o compare_v two_o person_n one_o worship_v christ_n as_o real_o present_a in_o the_o sun_n another_o christ_n as_o real_o present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n he_o say_v as_o inconsiderate_o as_o magisterial_o that_o suppose_v a_o mistake_n in_o both_o we_o be_v not_o to_o inquire_v into_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o mistake_n i._n e._n as_o he_o say_v before_o concern_v the_o probability_n of_o the_o one_o mistake_v more_o than_o of_o the_o other_o but_o the_o influence_n it_o have_v upon_o our_o action_n so_o he_o but_o what_o be_v more_o manifest_a than_o that_o the_o influence_n which_o a_o mistake_n have_v upon_o our_o action_n as_o to_o make_v they_o culpable_a or_o innocent_a be_v not_o always_o the_o same_o but_o very_o various_a and_o often_o contrary_a render_v they_o sometime_o blameless_a sometime_o faulty_a according_a as_o the_o mistake_n be_v exor_a in_o exusable_a next_o he_o grant_v ibid._n ibid._n 5._o a_o catholic_n tradition_n of_o transubstantiation_n to_o be_v a_o sufficient_a ground_n for_o adoration_n but_o the_o catholic_n tradition_n that_o be_v plead_v here_o necessary_a for_o adoration_n be_v only_o that_o of_o a_o corporal_a presence_n now_o for_o a_o sufficient_a evidence_n of_o such_o a_o tradition_n i_o refer_v the_o conscientious_a reader_n to_o what_o have_v be_v say_v before_o wave_v that_o of_o transubstantiation_n as_o to_o this_o controversy_n though_o the_o same_o catholic_n tradition_n authorize_v both_o namely_o a_o corporal_a presence_n by_o a_o mutation_n of_o the_o element_n into_o our_o lord_n body_n this_o from_o from_o 24._o of_o the_o rational_a ground_n catholic_n have_v for_o their_o adoration_n sect_n 30_o 8_o lie_n for_o such_o rational_a ground_n thereofre_v of_o their_o worship_n as_o be_v here_o give_v and_o not_o from_o any_o excess_n of_o charity_n or_o from_o the_o singular_a fancy_n of_o some_o few_o though_o learned_a man_n as_o dr._n stillingfleet_n in_o his_o preface_n to_o roman_a idolatry_n will_v insinuate_v idolatry_n be_v by_o many_o protestant_n of_o late_a either_o not_o at_o all_o or_o but_o faint_o charge_v on_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o first_o see_v mr._n thorndike_n in_o his_o epilogue_n 3._o l._n 30._o c._n p._n 350._o i_o say_v first_o say_v he_o that_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n prescribe_v be_v not_o necessary_o idolatry_n i_o say_v not_o what_o it_o may_v be_v accidental_o by_o that_o intention_n which_o some_o man_n may_v conceal_v and_o may_v make_v it_o idolatry_n as_o to_o god_n but_o i_o speak_v upon_o supposition_n of_o that_o intention_n which_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o church_n form_v and_o in_o his_o just_a weight_n c._n 19_o p._n 125._o they_o who_o give_v the_o honour_n proper_a to_o god_n to_o his_o creature_n be_v idolater_n they_o that_o worship_v the_o host_n give_v the_o honour_n due_a to_o god_n to_o his_o creature_n this_o be_v take_v for_o a_o demonstration_n that_o the_o worship_n of_o the_o host_n be_v idolatry_n but_o will_v any_o papist_n acknowledge_v that_o he_o honour_v the_o element_n of_o the_o eucharist_n or_o as_o he_o think_v the_o accident_n of_o they_o for_o god_n will_v common_a reason_n charge_v he_o to_o honour_n that_o which_o he_o believe_v not_o to_o be_v there_o if_o they_o be_v there_o they_o will_v not_o take_v they_o for_o god_n and_o therefore_o they_o will_v not_o honour_v they_o for_o god_n and_o that_o be_v it_o not_o say_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v idolater_n if_o the_o element_n do_v remain_v that_o must_v make_v they_o idolater_n and_o epilogue_n p._n 357._o in_o general_a he_o say_v whoso_o admit_v idolatry_n i._n e._n in_o any_o point_n whatever_o to_o be_v teach_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n can_v by_o no_o mean_n grant_v it_o to_o be_v a_o church_n the_o very_a be_v whereof_o suppose_v the_o worship_n of_o one_o god_n exclusive_a to_o any_o thing_n else_o the_o roman_a church_n then_o must_v either_o be_v free_v from_o the_o imputation_n of_o command_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v idolatry_n i._n e._n adoration_n of_o a_o creature_n for_o god_n or_o we_o must_v affirm_v there_o to_o be_v and_o to_o have_v be_v no_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n never_o since_o such_o command_n of_o that_o which_o they_o say_v be_v idolatry_n go_v forth_o which_o no_o judicious_a protestant_n i_o think_v have_v or_o dare_v say_v of_o the_o roman_a church_n since_o the_o begin_n of_o 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in_o be_v so_o conceal_v that_o whatever_o desire_n we_o have_v or_o pain_n we_o take_v to_o find_v out_o the_o truth_n it_o be_v not_o possible_a for_o we_o to_o discover_v it_o but_o there_o where_o the_o ignorance_n of_o the_o object_n or_o of_o its_o presence_n proceed_v not_o from_o the_o obscurity_n or_o difficulty_n of_o the_o thing_n but_o from_o the_o malice_n or_o negligence_n of_o the_o person_n this_o be_v so_o far_o from_o excuse_v that_o it_o aggravate_v our_o fault_n thus_o he_o excuse_v one_o that_o shall_v have_v adore_v a_o person_n much_o resemble_v our_o lord_n or_o a_o unconsecrated_a host_n because_o no_o passion_n or_o negligence_n of_o his_o cause_v such_o a_o mistake_n but_o not_o those_o who_o worship_v the_o sun_n for_o christ_n for_o christ_n in_o the_o sun_n because_o say_v he_o the_o ignorance_n of_o such_o people_n be_v visible_o affect_v and_o voluntary_a arise_v from_o their_o fault_n only_o and_o not_o from_o the_o obscurity_n of_o the_o thing_n they_o 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christ_n body_n contain_v in_o or_o under_o it_o see_v conc._n trident._n sess_v 13._o c._n 3._o hoc_fw-la esse_fw-la common_a eucharistiae_fw-la cum_fw-la aliis_fw-la sacramentis_fw-la ut_fw-la sit_fw-la symbolum_fw-la rei_fw-la sacrae_fw-la &_o visibilis_fw-la forma_fw-la invisibilis_fw-la gratiae_fw-la by_o which_o forma_fw-la visibilis_fw-la as_o bellarmin_n expound_v it_o the_o eucharist_n 4._o l._n 6._o c._n be_v mean_v the_o species_n of_o the_o element_n not_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n so_o bellarmin_n euchar._n 2._o l._n 15._o c._n etiam_fw-la post_fw-la consecrationem_fw-la species_n panis_fw-la &_o vini_fw-la sunt_fw-la signa_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la christi_fw-la ibi_fw-la revera_fw-la existentium_fw-la and_o 3._o l._n 22._o c._n accidentia_fw-la remanent_fw-la quia_fw-la si_fw-la etiam_fw-la accidentia_fw-la abessent_fw-la nullum_fw-la esset_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n signum_fw-la sensibile_fw-la proinde_fw-la nullum_fw-la esset_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la so_o 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non_fw-la putrescit_fw-la non_fw-la crematur_fw-la illa_fw-la enim_fw-la say_v bellarmin_n c._n bellarmin_n de_fw-fr eucharist_n 3._o l._n 10._o c._n in_o speciebus_fw-la istis_fw-la recipiuntur_fw-la sed_fw-la christum_fw-la non_fw-la afficiunt_fw-la afficiunt_fw-la 11_o 2._o concern_v adoration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n they_o affirm_v the_o word_n sacrament_n not_o to_o be_v take_v always_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n but_o sometime_o to_o be_v use_v to_o signify_v only_o the_o external_a sign_n or_o symbol_n sometime_o only_o the_o res_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la or_o the_o thing_n contain_v under_o they_o which_o be_v the_o much_o more_o principal_a part_n thereof_o and_o as_o protestant_n much_a press_n so_o catholic_n willing_o acknowledge_v a_o great_a difference_n between_o these_o two_o the_o worship_v of_o the_o sacrament_n as_o this_o word_n be_v take_v for_o the_o symbol_n and_o the_o worship_v of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n now_o as_o the_o word_n sacrament_n be_v 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