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A66406 The papist represented, and not misrepresented being in answer to the second sheet of the second part of the Papist misrepresented and represented : and for a further vindication of the catechism truly representing the doctrines and practices of the Church of Rome, in the point of their praying to the cross. Williams, John, 1636?-1709. 1687 (1687) Wing W2714; ESTC R2074 11,430 18

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