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A84410 A refutation of some of the false conceits in Mr. Locke's essay concerning humane understanding Together with a brief answer (in Latine) to the argument of Gerardus de Vries against the innate idea of God. By Edmund Elys, sometime fellow of Baliol-Colledge in Oxford. Elys, Edmund, ca. 1634-ca. 1707. 1697 (1697) Wing E692A; ESTC R231994 10,365 37

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gross_a falsehood_n that_o we_o may_v as_o well_o think_v the_o use_n of_o reason_n necessary_a to_o make_v our_o eye_n discover_v visible_a object_n as_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v need_n of_o reason_n or_o the_o exercise_n thereof_o to_o make_v the_o understanding_n see_v what_o be_v original_o engrave_v in_o it_o we_o hope_v this_o gentleman_n upon_o a_o more_o mature_a consideration_n will_v not_o deny_v that_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o any_o object_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o understanding_n as_o impress_v upon_o it_o or_o propose_v to_o it_o before_o it_o can_v be_v perceive_v know_v or_o assent_v unto_o as_o a_o verity_n or_o that_o which_o real_o be_v a_o thing_n visible_a must_v be_v in_o sight_n that_o be_v to_o say_v it_o must_v make_v some_o impression_n upon_o the_o visive_n faculty_n before_o it_o can_v be_v see_v so_o a_o object_n of_o the_o intellect_n must_v make_v some_o impression_n before_o it_o can_v be_v actual_o perceive_v or_o know_v chap._n 3._o sect._n 1_o the_o ignorance_n wherein_o many_o man_n be_v of_o they_o viz._n practical_a principle_n and_o the_o slowness_n of_o assent_n wherewith_o other_o receive_v they_o be_v manifest_a proof_n that_o they_o be_v not_o innate_a answ_n this_o ignorance_n and_o slowness_n be_v manifest_a proof_n that_o there_o be_v a_o perverseness_n in_o the_o will_n hinder_v the_o understanding_n from_o a_o due_a reflection_n upon_o those_o practical_a principle_n which_o be_v all_o imply_v in_o the_o notion_n or_o idea_n of_o the_o one_o be_v infinite_a in_o all_o perfection_n for_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o manifest_a than_o this_o that_o this_o be_v be_v to_o be_v love_v with_o all_o our_o heart_n and_o with_o all_o our_o soul_n upon_o this_o depend_v all_o other_o practical_a principle_n chap._n 3._o sect._n 8._o conscience_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o our_o own_o opinion_n of_o our_o own_o
action_n and_o if_o conscience_n be_v a_o proof_n of_o innate_a principle_n contrary_n may_v be_v innate_a principle_n since_o some_o man_n with_o the_o same_o bend_v of_o conscience_n prosecute_v what_o other_o avoid_v answ_n conscience_n be_v not_o opinion_n but_o that_o faculty_n of_o the_o rational_a soul_n by_o which_o if_o right_o exercise_v we_o reflect_v upon_o our_o own_o action_n with_o a_o certain_a notice_n of_o their_o conformity_n or_o difformity_n to_o the_o law_n of_o god._n a_o opinion_n that_o any_o man_n have_v that_o he_o please_v god_n in_o what_o be_v real_o wicked_a be_v not_o conscience_n but_o the_o defilement_n or_o pollution_n of_o conscience_n book_n 2_o chap._n 16._o sect._n 8._o this_o be_v observable_a in_o number_n that_o it_o be_v that_o which_o the_o mind_n make_v use_v of_o in_o measure_v all_o thing_n that_o by_o we_o be_v measurable_a which_o principal_o be_v expansion_n and_o duration_n and_o our_o idea_n of_o infinity_o even_o when_o apply_v to_o those_o seem_v to_o be_v nothing_o but_o the_o infinity_o of_o number_n ans_fw-fr number_n be_v not_o infinite_a in_o the_o most_o strict_a and_o proper_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n infinite_a it_o be_v indeed_o indefinite_a or_o indeterminate_v but_o it_o imply_v a_o contradiction_n that_o it_o shall_v be_v infinite_a because_o it_o have_v a_o beginning_n and_o so_o be_v bound_v à_fw-la parte_fw-la ante_fw-la it_o be_v be_v indefinite_a or_o indeterminate_v clear_o suggest_v the_o idea_n of_o the_o one_o be_v absolute_o infinite_a which_o be_v the_o foundation_n or_o origine_fw-la of_o every_o unite_v in_o number_n which_o we_o can_v not_o cenceive_v to_o be_v multiplicable_a in_o infinitum_fw-la if_o we_o have_v not_o some_o conception_n or_o idea_n of_o one_o who_o power_n be_v infinite_a which_o be_v the_o only_a true_a god._n chap._n 17._o sect._n 14._o they_o who_o will_v prove_v their_o idea_n of_o infinite_a to_o be_v positive_a seem_v to_o i_o to_o do_v it_o by_o a_o pleasant_a argument_n take_v from_o the_o negation_n of_o a_o end_n which_o be_v negative_a the_o negation_n of_o it_o be_v positive_a answ_n we_o say_v there_o be_v nothing_o but_o what_o be_v transcendent_o positive_a in_o the_o idea_n we_o have_v of_o that_o infinite_a which_o we_o attribute_v to_o god_n conceive_v that_o he_o have_v no_o bound_n or_o rather_o that_o he_o be_v beyond_o all_o bound_n or_o modes_n of_o be_v we_o conceive_v that_o he_o be_v actual_o all_o that_o can_n be_v so_o that_o it_o imply_v a_o contradiction_n that_o any_o thing_n shall_v ever_o exist_v but_o what_o derive_v its_o be_v from_o he_o and_o retain_v it_o only_o in_o a_o continual_a dependence_n upon_o he_o in_o the_o conversation_n i_o have_v have_v in_o the_o world_n the_o divine_a providence_n have_v give_v i_o many_o occasion_n to_o make_v observation_n of_o rational_a soul_n in_o reference_n to_o their_o notion_n of_o the_o deity_n far_o different_a from_o those_o which_o have_v be_v make_v by_o this_o learned_a man._n i_o have_v observe_v many_o woman_n and_o chilaren_n and_o iliiterate_a man_n that_o have_v have_v a_o much_o clear_a perception_n of_o the_o divine_a essence_n more_o pure_a and_o unmixed_a with_o error_n than_o he_o with_o all_o his_o wit_n and_o learning_n have_v attain_v unto_o they_o in_o the_o simplicity_n of_o their_o heart_n have_v reflect_v upon_o that_o which_o may_v be_v know_v of_o god_n manifest_v in_o they_o viz._n that_o notion_n or_o idea_n of_o god_n which_o god_n himself_o have_v give_v propose_v or_o enhibit_v to_o their_o understanding_n or_o spiritual_a perceptive_a faculty_n whereas_o this_o author_n avert_v his_o mind_n as_o much_o as_o he_o can_v from_o the_o apprehension_n of_o any_o such_o idea_n frame_v to_o himself_o a_o idea_n of_o the_o creator_n which_o imply_v a_o conceit_n that_o the_o divine_a excellence_n or_o perfection_n differ_v in_o the_o degree_n of_o the_o same_o kind_a of_o perfection_n from_o that_o which_o be_v in_o man_n and_o angel_n here_o the_o learned_a and_o pious_a reader_n may_v perceive_v how_o this_o author_n by_o desert_v the_o ground_n of_o all_o right_a ratiocination_n the_o innate_a idea_n of_o god_n and_o phantasy_v that_o the_o best_a idea_n he_o can_v have_v of_o he_o must_v be_v the_o result_n of_o his_o own_o ratiocination_n he_o become_v as_o the_o apostle_n speak_v vain_a in_o his_o imagination_n concern_v he_o by_o attribute_v to_o he_o perfection_n of_o the_o same_o kind_a with_o that_o which_o we_o find_v in_o ourselves_o and_o in_o other_o creature_n and_o so_o put_v bound_n or_o limit_n to_o the_o transcendency_n of_o the_o divine_a be_v that_o the_o judicious_a reader_n may_v see_v that_o i_o do_v not_o wrong_v this_o author_n i_o shall_v here_o recite_v those_o word_n of_o his_o upon_o which_o i_o ground_n this_o charge_n against_o he_o chap._n 23._o sect._n 33_o 34_o 35._o if_o we_o examine_v the_o idea_n we_o have_v of_o the_o incomprehensible_a supreme_a be_v we_o shall_v find_v that_o we_o come_v by_o it_o the_o same_o way_n and_o that_o the_o complex_fw-la ideas_n we_o have_v both_o of_o god_n and_o separate_v spirit_n be_v make_v up_o of_o the_o simple_a idea_n we_o receive_v from_o reflection_n v._o 9_o have_v from_o what_o we_o experiment_n in_o ourselves_o get_v the_o idea_n of_o existence_n and_o duration_n of_o knowledge_n and_o power_n of_o pleasure_n and_o happiness_n and_o of_o several_a other_o quality_n and_o power_n which_o it_o be_v better_a to_o have_v than_o to_o be_v without_o when_o we_o will_v frame_v a_o idea_n the_o most_o suitable_a we_o can_v to_o the_o supreme_a be_v we_o enlarge_v every_o one_o of_o these_o with_o our_o idea_n of_o infinity_o and_o so_o put_v they_o together_o make_v our_o complex_fw-la idea_n of_o god_n for_o that_o the_o mind_n have_v such_o a_o power_n of_o enlarge_a its_o idea_n receive_v from_o sensation_n and_o reflection_n have_v be_v already_o show_v here_o he_o plain_o refer_v to_o those_o word_n chap._n 17._o sect._n 13._o i_o think_v it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o addition_n of_o infinite_a thing_n together_o as_o be_v all_o length_n whereof_o we_o have_v the_o positive_a idea_n can_v never_o otherwise_o produce_v the_o idea_n of_o infinite_a than_o as_o number_n do_v which_o consist_v of_o addition_n of_o finite_a unite_v one_o to_o another_o suggest_v the_o idea_n of_o infinite_a only_o by_o a_o power_n we_o find_v we_o have_v of_o still_o increase_v the_o sum_n and_o add_v more_o of_o the_o same_o kind_a without_o come_v one_o jot_n near_o the_o end_n of_o such_o progression_n in_o the_o 34th_o section_n of_o this_o 23d_o chap._n he_o have_v these_o word_n and_o to_o frame_v the_o idea_n of_o a_o eternal_a be_v the_o degree_n or_o extent_n wherein_o we_o ascribe_v existence_n power_n wisdom_n and_o all_o other_o perfection_n which_o we_o can_v have_v any_o idea_n of_o to_o that_o sovereign_n be_v which_o we_o call_v god_n be_v all_o boundless_a and_o infinite_a we_o frame_v the_o best_a idea_n of_o he_o our_o mind_n be_v capable_a of_o sect._n 35._o though_o in_o his_o own_o essence_n god_n be_v but_o simple_a and_o uncompounded_a yet_o i_o think_v i_o may_v say_v we_o have_v no_o other_o idea_n of_o he_o but_o a_o complex_fw-la one_o of_o existence_n knowledge_n power_n happiness_n etc._n etc._n infinite_a and_o eternal_a to_o what_o he_o speak_v of_o a_o complex_n idea_n of_o god_n we_o answer_v that_o a_o complex_n idea_n in_o reference_n to_o his_o essence_n must_v needs_o be_v false_a but_o we_o may_v have_v such_o a_o conception_n or_o idea_n of_o he_o in_o reference_n to_o his_o work_n which_o may_v be_v call_v a_o complex_n idea_n but_o any_o such_o idea_n may_v be_v resolve_v into_o the_o simple_a idea_n of_o his_o essence_n viz._n of_o be_v absolute_o infinite_a in_o that_o he_o grant_v that_o the_o idea_n of_o god_n imply_v existence_n without_o beginning_n or_o end_v sect._n 34._o he_o plain_o discover_v the_o force_n of_o the_o innate_a idea_n of_o god_n in_o his_o own_o soul_n for_o that_o which_o be_v without_o beginning_n or_o end_v infinite_o transcend_v any_o object_n the_o idea_n whereof_o imply_v number_n or_o degree_n of_o perfection_n we_o grant_v that_o the_o notion_n of_o finite_a perfection_n grow_v or_o increase_v in_o infinitam_fw-la suggest_v to_o we_o the_o idea_n of_o god_n or_o rather_o prompt_v we_o to_o reflect_v upon_o it_o but_o we_o deny_v that_o this_o idea_n imply_v any_o other_o be_v than_o that_o which_o infinite_o transcend_v all_o degree_n of_o wisdom_n power_n goodness_n etc._n etc._n that_o be_v or_o can_v be_v but_o this_o author_n talk_v of_o degree_n boundless_a and_o infinite_a and_o how_o can_v we_o conceive_v any_o be_v to_o transcend_v such_o degree_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o degree_n or_o progression_n must_v have_v a_o beginning_n and_o so_o be_v