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A19948 A discourse of the conference holden before the French King at Fontain-bleau between the L. Bishop of Eureux, and Munsieur de Plessis L. of Mornay, the 4. of May 1600. Concerning certaine pretended corruptions of authors, cyted by the sayd Munsieur de Plessis in his booke against the Masse. Faithfully translated out of the French. 1600 (1600) STC 6381; ESTC S109408 46,856 60

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contrarium_fw-la do_v et_fw-la in_o fine_a be_v 15._o sed_fw-la quia_fw-la hic_fw-la modus_fw-la non_fw-la debet_fw-la teneri_fw-la de_fw-la facto_fw-la cum_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la determinaverit_n oppositum_fw-la quçnon_fw-la presumitur_fw-la ertare_fw-la in_o talibus_fw-la ideo_fw-la tenendo_fw-la de_fw-la facto_fw-la aliam_fw-la partem_fw-la respondendum_fw-la est_fw-la ad_fw-la argumenta_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o contrarium_fw-la but_o say_v he_o in_o as_o much_o as_o this_o mean_n must_v not_o be_v hold_v in_o deed_n because_o the_o church_n have_v determine_v the_o contrary_a namely_o in_o the_o counsel_n of_o latran_n which_o it_o be_v to_o be_v presume_v do_v not_o err_v in_o such_o matter_n therefore_o it_o be_v that_o indeed_o hold_v the_o other_o part_n we_o must_v answer_v to_o the_o argument_n that_o be_v to_o the_o contrary_n and_o this_o be_v the_o answer_n that_o he_o make_v eccleasiasticae_fw-la make_v idem_fw-la art_n 16._o in_o his_o quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la fidei_fw-la non_fw-la semper_fw-la eligendum_fw-la est_fw-la eillud_fw-la ad_fw-la quod_fw-la sequuntur_fw-la pauciores_fw-la dissicultates_fw-la etc._n etc._n sed_fw-la est_fw-la ponendum_fw-la magis_fw-la illud_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la consonum_fw-la dictis_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la &_o tradicioni_fw-la eccleasiasticae_fw-la we_o must_v not_o always_o stand_v upon_o the_o sense_n that_o bring_v few_o
inconvenience_n but_o upon_o the_o same_o that_o best_o agreee_v with_o the_o say_n of_o the_o saint_n and_o the_o ecclesiastical_a tradition_n he_o be_v wise_a enough_o for_o say_v with_o the_o tenure_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n or_o with_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o indeed_o the_o lord_n of_o eur._n shall_v have_v learn_v of_o his_o bellarmin_n that_o durand_n do_v not_o sufficient_o believe_v transubstantiation_n who_o in_o his_o 3._o book_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n chap._n xi_o have_v these_o word_n converti_fw-la word_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr sacram._n euchar._n lib._n 3._o c._n 11_o durandus_fw-la docuit_fw-la parten_v unam_fw-la essentialem_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la formam_fw-la panis_fw-la converti_fw-la partem_fw-la alteram_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la materiam_fw-la non_fw-la converti_fw-la durand_n have_v teach_v that_o a_o essential_a part_n of_o the_o bread_n namely_o the_o form_n be_v convert_v and_o that_o the_o other_o part_n namely_o the_o substance_n be_v not_o convert_v which_o he_o do_v express_o confute_v in_o the_o 13._o chapter_n of_o his_o three_o book_n and_o cit_v durand_n upon_o the_o 4._o book_n of_o sentence_n dist_n 11._o q._n 3._o here_o will_v our_o master_n and_o commissioner_n have_v refer_v the_o judgement_n as_o they_o have_v do_v with_o the_o former_a confess_v that_o the_o whole_a question_n deserve_v to_o be_v read_v that_o it_o may_v be_v judge_v by_o the_o course_n thereof_o but_o then_o the_o lord_n of_o eureux_fw-fr found_v himself_o aggrieve_v say_v that_o it_o be_v in_o vain_a for_o they_o to_o dispute_v if_o they_o will_v not_o judge_v sundry_a time_n speak_v to_o the_o king_n to_o appoint_v his_o pleasure_n to_o the_o say_a commissioner_n whereupon_o his_o majesty_n come_v unto_o they_o this_o article_n be_v decide_v and_o the_o lord_n chancellor_n pronounce_v that_o durands_n opposition_n be_v allege_v for_o his_o resolution_n here_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_v albeit_o it_o be_v so_o of_o the_o word_n of_o the_o opposition_n so_o plain_o repeat_v in_o the_o resolution_n and_o durand_n speak_v no_o long_a in_o a_o three_o person_n but_o in_o his_o own_o person_n afterward_o likewise_o these_o clause_n durum_fw-la est_fw-la temerarium_fw-la est_fw-la it_o be_v hard_a it_o be_v rash_a etc._n etc._n whether_o in_o so_o doubtful_a so_o ticklish_a so_o problematticall_a matter_n the_o lord_n of_o eureux_fw-fr might_n pretend_v any_o heinous_a untruth_n even_o palpable_o to_o be_v judge_v at_o the_o very_a open_n of_o the_o book_n at_o the_o bare_a sight_n thereof_o where_o a_o man_n judgement_n not_o his_o eye_n be_v in_o danger_n of_o fail_v the_o three_o place_n out_o of_o chrisostom_n upon_o the_o first_o to_o the_o thessalonian_o for_o the_o three_o they_o come_v to_o a_o place_n of_o chrisostom_n upon_o the_o first_o to_o the_o thessa_n hom._n 1._o 22._o liu_o 3_o the_o euchar_n chap._n 11._o ed._n 1._o pa._n 5._o 7._o l._n 31._o edit_n 2._o p._n 538._o l._n ●_o ed._n 3_o p._n 498._o l._n 22._o allege_v by_o the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n in_o his_o book_n p._n 537._o li._n 31._o where_o he_o examine_v all_o the_o place_n of_o scripture_n which_o the_o adversary_n do_v bold_o apply_v to_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n namely_o this_o out_o of_o jeremy_n 15._o istum_fw-la 15._o jerem._n c._n 15._o five_o 1._o si_fw-mi stererint_fw-la moses_n &_o samuel_n coram_fw-la i_o non_fw-la est_fw-la anima_fw-la mea_fw-la ad_fw-la populum_fw-la istum_fw-la though_o samuel_n and_o moses_n shall_v stand_v before_o i_o yet_o shall_v not_o my_o affection_n be_v to_o this_o people_n in_o which_o place_n have_v prove_v by_o s._n h●erosme_n theodoret_n s._n gregory_n hugo_n cardinal_n yea_o the_o gloss_n itself_o that_o this_o place_n be_v mean_v of_o the_o intercession_n of_o moses_n and_o samuel_n when_o they_o live_v between_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n and_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o people_n but_o not_o of_o any_o intercession_n of_o the_o dead_a saint_n unto_o god_n for_o the_o faithful_a live_n here_o beneath_o he_o withal_o add_v that_o here_o of_o chrisostom_n gather_v a_o conclusion_n clean_o contrary_a to_o that_o of_o the_o adversary_n namely_o that_o we_o must_v not_o stand_v upon_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n but_o work_v our_o salvation_n with_o fear_n and_o tremble_a now_o against_o this_o place_n the_o lord_n of_o eureux_fw-fr pretend_a two_o thing_n the_o one_o that_o the_o lord_n of_o plesses_n have_v cut_v he_o off_o in_o the_o substantial_a word_n namely_o if_o we_o be_v negligent_a the_o other_o that_o chrisostom_n entreat_v of_o the_o intercession_n of_o the_o saint_n decease_v which_o the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n deny_v to_o the_o first_o the_o lord_n of_o plesses_n answer_v that_o he_o allege_v not_o the_o express_a word_n of_o chrisostom_n but_o only_o set_v down_o the_o sense_n because_o the_o discourse_n contain_v two_o or_o three_o whole_a page_n which_o he_o reduce_v as_o it_o be_v into_o a_o thesis_n and_o that_o indeed_o he_o allege_v it_o after_o the_o phrase_n of_o the_o gramarian_n oratione_fw-la obliqua_fw-la non_fw-la recta_fw-la in_o a_o overthwart_a and_o not_o direct_a speech_n by_o this_o word_n that_o he_o etc._n etc._n therefore_o that_o he_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o the_o course_n of_o the_o text_n to_o the_o other_o that_o in_o this_o allegation_n he_o have_v no_o other_o purpose_n but_o to_o show_v that_o chrisostom_n out_o of_o this_o place_n of_o jeremy_n have_v not_o gather_v as_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n at_o this_o day_n do_v the_o intercession_n and_o invocation_n of_o the_o decease_a saint_n but_o contrariwise_o have_v collect_v this_o doctrine_n that_o we_o must_v not_o general_o stand_v upon_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n whether_o alive_a or_o dead_a in_o some_o upon_o other_o man_n prayer_n but_o that_o we_o must_v watch_v pray_v and_o endeavour_n as_o the_o apostle_n say_v to_o make_v sure_a our_o salvation_n with_o fear_n and_o tremble_a and_o indeed_o that_o this_o intent_n appear_v in_o these_o word_n etc._n word_n chrysostan_n 1._o ad_fw-la thessaly_n chap._n 1._o ho●_n 1._o sub_fw-la finen_n p._n 1414_o editiont_n groe●_n lat._n hier._n cemmelini_n 1596._o et_fw-la ut_fw-la id_fw-la seras_fw-la audi_fw-la deum_fw-la dicentem_fw-la si_fw-mi steterint_fw-la noah_n &_o job_n &_o daniel_n non_fw-la eripient_fw-la filios_fw-la suos_fw-la &_o filias_fw-la &_o ruisus_fw-la si_fw-mi steterit_fw-la moses_n &_o samuel_n et_fw-la vide_fw-la quomodo_fw-la hoc_fw-la dicitur_fw-la duobus_fw-la prophetis_fw-la quoniam_fw-la ambo_fw-la pro_fw-la ipsis_fw-la togarant_a &_o non_fw-la erant_fw-la assecuti_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o to_o the_o end_n thou_o shall_v know_v namely_o that_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n do_v not_o profit_v except_o we_o do_v convert_v and_o turn_v unto_o god_n hear_v what_o the_o lord_n say_v by_o the_o prophet_n if_o noè_fw-la job_n &_o daniel_n stand_v before_o i_o yet_o shall_v they_o not_o save_v their_o son_n nor_o their_o daughter_n and_o again_o if_o moses_n and_o samuel_n etc._n etc._n and_o mark_v how_o this_o be_v speak_v to_o two_o prophet_n because_o both_o of_o they_o have_v pray_v but_o have_v not_o obtain_v etc._n etc._n thus_o that_o this_o place_n of_o chrisostom_n be_v not_o curtal_v neither_o can_v be_v since_o it_o be_v but_o touch_v by_o the_o way_n and_o not_o allege_v much_o less_o be_v it_o wrest_v to_o any_o contrary_a sense_n because_o general_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n albeit_o the_o example_n be_v of_o those_o that_o be_v yet_o conversant_a with_o we_o here_o beneath_o now_o for_o the_o better_a open_n of_o this_o point_n the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n own_o word_n do_v suffice_v that_o we_o must_v not_o stand_v upon_o for_o what_o be_v it_o to_o stand_v upon_o but_o whole_o to_o trust_v or_o to_o rely_v upon_o even_o to_o the_o exclusion_n of_o our_o own_o duty_n and_o of_o all_o other_o mean_n he_o do_v then_o express_v the_o meaning_n of_o chrisostom_n that_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o congregation_n of_o the_o saint_n of_o the_o faithful_a each_o for_o other_o be_v good_a be_v to_o be_v wish_v but_o that_o we_o shall_v not_o sleep_v upon_o they_o but_o for_o our_o own_o part_n do_v our_o duty_n also_o the_o course_n of_o the_o text_n will_v lead_v we_o thereunto_o perimus_fw-la thereunto_o et_fw-fr pa._n 14._o c._n 2._o nullus_fw-la dormiat_fw-la nullus_fw-la sit_fw-la piger_fw-la ad_fw-la virtutem_fw-la hoc_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la somnus_o nescitis_fw-la quando_fw-la dormimus_fw-la quam_fw-la nostra_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o tuto_fw-la quam_fw-la facile_fw-la eye_n parentur_fw-la insidiae_fw-la quando_fw-la auten_v vigilamus_fw-la non_fw-la opus_fw-la est_fw-la nobis_fw-la tanta_fw-la custodia_fw-la quando_fw-la dormimus_fw-la etiam_fw-la cum_fw-la multa_fw-la custodia_fw-la sepe_fw-la perimus_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o ostea_fw-la &_o vecte_n &_o custodes_fw-la &_o vigiles_fw-la &_o tamen_fw-la fur_n ingreditur_fw-la cur_n haec_fw-la dico_fw-la quonian_a si_fw-la vigilemus_fw-la non_fw-la egebimus_fw-la aliorum_fw-la
a_o discourse_n of_o the_o conference_n hold_v before_o the_o french_a king_n at_o fontain-bleau_a between_o the_o l._n bishop_n of_o eureux_fw-fr and_o munsieur_fw-fr du_fw-fr plessis_n l._n of_o mornay_n the_o 4._o of_o may_v 1600._o concern_v certain_a pretend_a corruption_n of_o author_n cite_v by_o the_o say_v munsieur_fw-fr du_fw-fr plessis_n in_o his_o book_n against_o the_o mass_n faithful_o translate_v out_o of_o the_o french_a london_n print_v by_o e._n a._n for_o matthew_n selman_n and_o william_n ferbrand_n and_o be_v to_o be_v sell_v in_o fleetstreet_n next_o the_o inner_a temple_n gate_n 1600._o a_o true_a discourse_n of_o the_o conference_n hold_v at_o fontaine-bleau_a the_o 4._o of_o may._n 1600._o since_o that_o the_o lord_n bishop_n of_o eureux_fw-fr persuade_v himself_o that_o the_o dishonour_n and_o overthrow_v of_o the_o doctrine_n preach_v in_o the_o reform_a church_n of_o the_o realm_n of_o france_n almain_n england_n scotand_v denmark_n swethen_n and_o poand_n etc._n etc._n depend_v on_o the_o confutation_n of_o the_o lord_n plessis_n book_n write_v upon_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n which_o doctrine_n be_v maintain_v by_o this_o book_n as_o it_o may_v be_v gather_v from_o his_o private_a letter_n to_o the_o l._n ples●is_n as_o if_o the_o minister_n of_o all_o the_o kingdom_n in_o this_o last_o endeavour_n have_v put_v all_o their_o head_n into_o one_o body_n to_o be_v cut_v off_o by_o this_o new_a hercules_n return_v from_o hell_n and_o since_o for_o have_v only_o deflower_v certain_a place_n of_o the_o say_a book_n he_o boast_v of_o the_o victory_n &_o cause_v te_fw-la deum_fw-la to_o be_v sing_v in_o every_o place_n let_v no_o man_n blame_v we_o if_o by_o this_o our_o writing_n we_o oppose_v the_o truth_n against_o those_o falsehood_n which_o have_v be_v publish_v since_o we_o be_v thereunto_o bind_v by_o the_o duty_n which_o we_o owe_v unto_o god_n and_o for_o the_o instruction_n of_o his_o people_n truth_n it_o be_v that_o since_o l._n plessis_n book_n of_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v publish_v some_o have_v find_v out_o no_o other_o mean_n to_o traverse_v the_o course_n thereof_o then_o by_o publish_v both_o in_o word_n and_o writing_n that_o the_o place_n by_o he_o allege_v as_o well_o of_o holy_a scripture_n as_o the_o father_n be_v falcify_v yield_v sufficient_a testimony_n by_o this_o their_o sinister_a subtlety_n that_o his_o allegation_n aver_v &_o justify_v the_o doctrine_n he_o profess_v shall_v be_v both_o clear_a certain_a and_o inpugnable_a nevertheless_o he_o patient_o endure_v this_o slander_n partly_o endeavour_v himself_o to_o overthrow_v it_o by_o his_o answer_n partly_o trust_v that_o of_o itself_o at_o last_o it_o will_v give_v place_n to_o verity_n until_o he_o have_v intelligence_n that_o the_o bruit_n thereof_o have_v come_v to_o the_o king_n ear_n yea_o and_o get_v so_o great_a credit_n as_o he_o very_o believe_v it_o whereupon_o aggrieve_v yea_o &_o that_o 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express_v haberi_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la ibi_fw-la substantiam_fw-la panis_fw-la nam_fw-la joamnis_n 6._o ubi_fw-la multum_fw-la probatur_fw-la veritas_fw-la eucharistiae_fw-la planum_fw-la est_fw-la ubi_fw-la christus_fw-la di●it_fw-la ego_fw-la sum_fw-la panis_fw-la viws_fw-la qui_fw-la manducaverit_fw-la ex_fw-la hoc_fw-la pane_fw-la etc._n etc._n et_fw-la 1._o ad_fw-la cor._n 11._o pau_n lus_z panis_n quem_fw-la frangimus_fw-la nun_n communicatio_fw-la corporis_fw-la christi_fw-la est_fw-la nec_fw-la invenitur_fw-la ubi_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la istam_fw-la veritatem_fw-la determinet_fw-la solenniter_fw-la nec_fw-la etiam_fw-la qualiter_fw-la istud_fw-la possit_fw-la ab_fw-la al●quo_fw-la manifest_a credito_fw-la evidenter_fw-la inferri_fw-la yet_o it_o do_v not_o seem_v express_o set_v down_o that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n be_v not_o in_o the_o sacrament_n but_o contrariwise_o s._n paul_n 1_o corrin_n cap_n 11._o say_v the_o bread_n that_o we_o break_v be_v it_o not_o the_o 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and_o be_v not_o likewise_o take_v away_o or_o resolve_v into_o the_o first_o matter_n namely_o according_a to_o the_o second_o but_o be_v convert_v into_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o by_o what_o reason_n or_o authority_n sure_o say_v he_o this_o do_v etc._n do_v mox_fw-la principaliter_fw-la videtur_fw-la i_o movere_fw-la quod_fw-la de_fw-la sacramentis_fw-la tenendum_fw-la est_fw-la sicutsancta_fw-la romana_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sicut_fw-la habetur_fw-la extra_n de_fw-fr heretic_n ad_fw-la obolendan_n nunc_fw-la auten_v ipsa_fw-la tenet_fw-la panem_fw-la transubstantiari_fw-la in_o corpus_fw-la &_o vinum_fw-la in_o sanguinem_fw-la sicut_fw-la manifest_a habetur_fw-la extra_n de_fw-fr summa_fw-la tri_n nit_n &_o side_n cathol_n firmitercredimus_fw-la una_fw-la vero_fw-la etc._n etc._n especial_o seem_v to_o move_v i_o that_o we_o must_v hold_v of_o the_o sacrament_n as_o the_o holy_a church_n of_o rome_n hold_v as_o it_o be_v set_v down_o extra_n de_fw-fr haereticis_fw-la ad_fw-la abolendam_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o she_o now_o hold_v that_o the_o bread_n be_v transubstantiate_v into_o the_o body_n &_o the_o wine_n into_o the_o blood_n as_o we_o have_v it_o manifest_o set_v down_o extra_n de_fw-fr summa_fw-la trinit_fw-la &_o fide_fw-la cath._n firmiter_fw-la credimus_fw-la etc._n etc._n una_fw-la vero_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o the_o decree_n of_o latran_n but_o what_o a_o answer_n here_o be_v to_o that_o which_o be_v so_o well_o ground_v that_o we_o must_v hold_v nothing_o to_o be_v of_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n but_o that_o which_o be_v express_o in_o the_o scripture_n or_o that_o be_v take_v out_o of_o some_o what_o plain_o planè_fw-la contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n or_o that_o have_v be_v express_o declare_v by_o the_o church_n true_o to_o this_o argument_n wherein_o say_v he_o consist_v the_o force_n he_o have_v no_o more_o to_o say_v but_o etc._n but_o ibid._n lit_fw-fr g._n ad_fw-la tertium_fw-la ubi_fw-la star_n vis_fw-la docendum_fw-la quod_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la declaravit_fw-la istum_fw-la intellectum_fw-la esse_fw-la de_fw-la veritate_fw-la fidei_fw-la in_o ille_fw-la simbolo_fw-it edito_fw-la sub_fw-la innocentio_n 3_o in_o concilio_n lateranensi_fw-la firmiter_fw-la credimus_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o church_n of_o god_n have_v declare_v this_o understanding_n or_o this_o sense_n to_o be_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o faith_n in_o that_o creed_n that_o be_v form_v under_o innocent_a the_o three_o in_o the_o counsel_n of_o latran_n etc._n etc._n the_o same_o we_o have_v in_o reportat_fw-la do_v 10._o q._n 1._o &_o do_v 11._o q._n 3._o for_o have_v argue_v upon_o the_o 3._o opinion_n &_o with_o the_o afore_o name_v reason_n fight_v with_o transubstantiation_n he_o particular_o say_v etc._n say_v idem_fw-la repor_fw-la in_o 4._o sentent_fw-fr d._n 11._o q._n 3._o p._n 20._o imprime_fw-la a_o venize_v apud_fw-la 〈◊〉_d bapt._n &_o joan._n bernardun_n sessam_fw-la 1597._o dico_fw-la quod_fw-la licet_fw-la substantia_fw-la panis_fw-la maneret_fw-la non_fw-la auserret_fw-la venerationem_fw-la neque_fw-la esset_fw-la occasio_fw-la idolatriae_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o say_v that_o albeit_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n shall_v remain_v yet_o can_v it_o not_o abolish_v the_o worship_n of_o the_o sacrament_n neither_o be_v any_o cause_n of_o idolatry_n etc._n etc._n again_o accident_n again_o ibid._n dico_fw-la quod_fw-la magis_fw-la substantia_fw-la panis_fw-la cum_fw-la accidentibus_fw-la repraesentat_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la quam_fw-la accidentia_fw-la tantum_fw-la eum_fw-la maior_fw-la sit_fw-la convenientia_fw-la substantiae_fw-la ad_fw-la substantiam_fw-la quam_fw-la ad_fw-la accident_n i_o say_v that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n with_o the_o accident_n do_v better_o represent_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n then_o the_o accident_n only_o etc._n etc._n here_o note_v that_o these_o word_n be_v his_o own_o and_o so_o he_o proceed_v to_o conclude_v simple_o in_o these_o word_n etc._n word_n 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