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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A87820	A moderate answer vnto Dr. Bastvvicks book; called Independency not Gods ordinance. Wherein is declared the manner how some churches in this city were gathered, and upon what tearmes their members were admitted; that so both the Dr. and the reader may judge, how near some beleevers who walk together in the fellowship of the gospell, do come in their practice to these apostolicall rules which are propounded by the Dr. as Gods method in gethering churches and admitting members. / By Hanserd Knollys. Printed and published according to order. Imprimatur, Ja: Cranford.	Knollys, Hanserd, 1599?-1691.	1645 (1645)	Wing K717; Thomason E293_5; ESTC R200159	15,353	23

A Moderate Answer VNTO Dr. BASTVVICKS BOOK CALLED Jndependency not Gods Ordinance WHEREIN Is declared the manner how some CHVRCHES in this City were gathered and upon what tearmes their Members were admitted That so both the Dr. and the Reader may judge how near some Beleevers who walk together in the Fellowship of the Gospell do come in their practice to these Apostolicall rules which are propounded by the Dr. as Gods method in gathering Churches and admitting MEMBERS By HANSERD KNOLLYS Printed and published according to Order Imprimatur JA CRANFORD LONDON Printed by IANE COE 1645. A Moderate ANSWER UNTO Dr. BASTWICKS Book CALLED Jndependencie not Gods Ordinance PAssing by many things lesse considerable because I intend brevity In the 7th page of the Doctors booke There is a twofold Question betweene them called PRESBYTERIANS and their Brethren who are termed INDEPENDENTS The first is concerning the Government of the Church viz. Whether it be Presbyterian-Dependen or Presbyterian-Independent The second Question is concerning the Gathering of CHURCHES Touching the former Question concerning the Government of the Church the Doctor acknowledgeth in the same 7th page that the Brethren on both sides agree that the Government of the church is a Presbyterian-Government both acknowledging a Presbyterie But whether it be Dependent or Independent is the maine thing in the question which the Doctor doth determine and saith in the Title page of his book he hath evidently Proved ' That the Presbyterian-Government-Dependent is Gods Ordinance and not the byterian-Government-Independent I intend not to strive with the Doctor about wordes and therefore touching the two Termes to wit Dependent and Independent I shall onely say this at present That if by Independent the the Doctor indeede mean as it doth appear so to my understanding by many passages in his booke he doth intend a Presbyterian-Government which hath not Dependencie upon any in matters meerly Ecclesiasticall but upon the Lord Jesus Christ Who is the Head of the Church And if by Dependent hee also indendeth as in many other passages in his booke seemeth to me to be his meaning Pag. 8.10 Pag. 14.15.17.18 a Presbyterian-Government which hath a Dependencie upon a supream Judicature of a Common-councell of Presbyters and who must in matters Ecclesiasticall be subiect unto the Decrees Sentences Constitutions and Commandments of a Common-councell Colledge or Consistorie of Classicall Provinciall or Synodicall Presbyters Then I do conceive the Doctor hath not proved nor will he ever be able to prove That the Presbyterian-Government-Dependent is Gods Ordinance And I hope to make the contrary plainly appear both from cleere Texts of Scripture and the Doctors owne bookes And seeing that the Doctor hath in the 6th p. of his Book desired all his Christan Brethren in the Deciding of this Question to take the Word of God into their Hands and with the Noble Bereans to sit downe and examine whatsoever shall be said on either side according to the Scriptures I willingly make the same request as most desirous that this short Answere may abide the like triall and be weighed in the other ballance of the Sanctuary against the Doctors Booke Now that all things may be handled in good order and in a Methodicall way the Doctor hath reduced the whole disputation concerning this first Question into four Propositions page 11. The first that there were many Congregations and severall assemblies of Beleevers in the church of Ierusalem in the which they enjoyed all acts of Worship and all the Ordinances amongst themselves and did partake of all acts of Church-fellowship especially of preaching and in the Administration of the Sacraments and prayer and that before the Persecution we reade of Act. 8.2 The second That all these congregations and severall assemblies made but one church The third That the Apostles and Elders governed ordered and ruled this church joyntly and by a Common-councell and Prebsytery The fourth that this church of Ierusalem and the government of the same is to be a patterne for all severall congregations and assemblies in any City or Vicinity to unite into one Church and for the Officers of those congregations to governe that Church joyntly in a Colledge or Presbyterie These are his four Propositions But before hee comes to the proof of these particulars hee saith it will not bee amisse in generall to take notice That all the Churches we read of in the New Testament were Aristocratically and Prestbyterially governed and were all Dependent upon their severall Presbyters and produceth divers places of Scripture to prove the same and two sheets are spent wholly in proving thereof from the 12. page to the 29. All which should it bee granted only proves First That in every City or Church there was a Presbiterie Acts. 14.23 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 cumque per suffragia statuissent illis per singulas Ecclesias seniores that is When they had ordained them Elders in every Church by the Suffrage or stretching forth of Hands also Titus 1.5 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 constituas oppidatim seniores that is And thou mayest Ordaine Elders towne by towne or city by city or village by village Secondly that as there were Apostles and Elders in the Church of Jerusalem Act. 15.2,4 So there were Elders in the Church of Ephesus Act. 20.17,28 And in the Church of Corinth and in the Church of Galatia and in Philippie c. Thirdly that these severall Churches were Dependent upon their severall Presbyters and were to obey them who had the rule over them Heb. 13.7,17,24 Or who were their Guides 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Obedite ducibus vestris that is Obey your Guides Fourthly that this Presbyterian-Church-Government God hath hath appointed as his Ordinance to be continued to the end of the world the which whosoever resisteth resisteth the Ordinance of God but it doth not prove That this Presbyterian-Church-Government is Dependent upon a supreame Judicature of a Common-counsell of Presbyters or that they must submit and subject them themselves and their churches unto the Decrees Sentences Constitutions and Commandements of a Common-councell colledge and court of classicall or Synodall Presbyters which the Doctor should have proved for such a Presbyterian-Government he intends as may appeare by the Doctors owne words pag. 17.18 As for the Presbyterian Government in the sence that I understand it there is nothing more cleare to me in all the Scripture Yea the very word and name of Presbytery signifieth a Magistracy or Aristocracy or Signory or court And as the word is taken in the civill Polity and Government so in the Ecclesiasticall by a Presbytery wee understand saith the Doctor page 18. A Religious Grave Sollid Learned and Wise Councell of Divines Ministers c. Without whose joynt and mutuall accord or agreement and common-consent nothing ought to be done or transacted of publicke concernment And to make this good to wit That the Presbyters of particular congregations or assemblies of Beleevers and their Churches ought to be