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A50249 A disputation concerning church-members and their children in answer to XXI questions wherein the state of such children when adult, together with their duty towards the church, and the churches duty towards them is discussed by an assembly of divines meeting at Boston in New England, June 4th, 1657 / now published by a lover of truth. Mather, Richard, 1596-1669. 1659 (1659) Wing M1271A; ESTC R3585 21,931 42

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