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doubt_v of_o top._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 11._o and_o he_o esteem_v he_o mad_a who_o put_v that_o for_o a_o question_n that_o all_o man_n grant_n top._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 10._o in_o both_o the_o page_n last_o mention_v he_o dispute_v thus_o he_o that_o call_v the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n a_o shell_n and_o relic_n of_o baptism_n be_v not_o guide_v by_o god_n spirit_n disgrace_v christ_n and_o the_o sacrament_n but_o our_o adversary_n in_o this_o cause_n so_o call_v the_o sacranent_n of_o baptism_n pag._n 35.47_o therefore_o our_o adversary_n in_o this_o cause_n be_v not_o guide_v by_o god_n spirit_n and_o disgrace_n christ_n and_o the_o sacrament_n i_o answer_v in_o the_o prosecution_n of_o the_o last_o argument_n we_o promise_v he_o two_o pair_n of_o new_a sizor_n upon_o a_o fair_a condition_n we_o will_v now_o increase_v his_o wage_n so_o as_o if_o he_o can_v prove_v and_o apply_v this_o present_a argument_n that_o it_o may_v serve_v in_o any_o part_n of_o this_o question_n he_o shall_v have_v three_o pair_n so_o desirous_a be_v we_o to_o make_v use_n of_o stuff_n so_o precious_a let_v he_o do_v his_o labour_n and_o his_o wage_n be_v ready_a it_o may_v be_v he_o will_v say_v he_o amplify_v the_o conclusion_n and_o it_o may_v be_v so_o too_o but_o be_v he_o so_o good_a a_o orator_n that_o he_o amplify_v before_o he_o prove_v i_o hope_v he_o forget_v not_o himself_o and_o his_o own_o rule_n will_v he_o one_o while_o affirm_v another_o while_n ceny_n the_o same_o thing_n now_o answer_n then_o argue_v by_o and_o by_o declaim_v sure_o this_o be_v altogether_o without_o his_o own_o appoint_a order_n pag_n 77._o it_o be_v meet_v the_o reader_n shall_v be_v put_v in_o mind_n of_o these_o thing_n lest_o he_o mistake_v the_o matter_n and_o the_o learning_n of_o the_o disputer_n his_o mind_n can_v be_v at_o quiet_a the_o popish_a baptism_n be_v so_o great_a a_o more_o in_o his_o eye_n and_o therefore_o pag._n 87._o he_o fall_v into_o it_o again_o and_o avouch_v thus_o much_o the_o indecent_a rite_n and_o erroneous_a opinion_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n can_v make_v nullity_n and_o evacuate_v the_o force_n of_o the_o sacrament_n their_o baptism_n for_o the_o substance_n of_o it_o be_v holy_a and_o good_a and_o effectual_a not_o doubt_n to_o they_o that_o recetue_n it_o as_o we_o i_o answer_v the_o second_o branch_n be_v a_o mere_a repetition_n of_o his_o former_a answer_n and_o impose_v a_o conceit_n upon_o we_o viz._n that_o the_o popish_a erroneous_a opinion_n and_o indecent_a rite_n make_v void_a the_o be_v and_o efficacy_n of_o the_o sacrament_n to_o the_o first_o branch_n i_o will_v say_v nothing_o because_o i_o have_v do_v enough_o for_o that_o already_o in_o the_o second_o he_o be_v mistake_v or_o a_o false_a accuser_n if_o he_o will_v excuse_v himself_o let_v he_o show_v the_o
author_n and_o place_n of_o that_o opinion_n this_o we_o say_v and_o have_v say_v it_o already_o they_o have_v no_o sacrament_n because_o they_o have_v no_o divine_a faith_n and_o we_o think_v this_o consequence_n be_v good_a because_o the_o sacrament_n have_v no_o be_v nor_o use_v but_o in_o order_n unto_o and_o in_o presupposal_n of_o the_o divine_a faith_n and_o i_o suppose_v our_o strict_a opponent_n will_v say_v no_o less_o for_o if_o the_o sacrament_n may_v be_v enjoy_v in_o their_o true_a and_o real_a be_v and_o natural_a efficacy_n where_o divine_a faith_n be_v want_v than_o turk_n and_o heathen_a man_n may_v have_v they_o which_o i_o know_v this_o opponent_n at_o least_o will_v deny_v because_o the_o sacrament_n be_v peculiar_o to_o the_o church_n make_v man_n christian_n and_o christianity_n make_v the_o church_n for_o thus_o he_o write_v pag._n 117._o and_o 119._o he_o promise_v to_o forbear_v his_o proof_n till_o he_o find_v his_o position_n deny_v but_o the_o heat_n within_o he_o whereof_o we_o read_v in_o his_o english_a epistle_n will_v not_o give_v way_n to_o that_o wherefore_o pag._n 118._o he_o allege_v two_o and_o i_o will_v report_v they_o in_o true_a form_n that_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v their_o soundness_n in_o the_o first_o he_o conclude_v thus_o if_o they_o baptise_v with_o water_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n the_o son_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n than_o their_o baptism_n be_v good_a for_o here_o be_v water_n and_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n institution_n the_o one_o the_o matter_n and_o the_o other_o the_o form_n and_o both_o essential_a to_o baptism_n i_o answer_v i_o deny_v the_o consequence_n as_o naught_o in_o itself_o and_o as_o ill_o prove_v the_o reason_n of_o my_o denial_n be_v give_v already_o so_o as_o i_o may_v be_v silent_a here_o but_o repetition_n will_v be_v useful_a often_o practice_n make_v thing_n and_o man_n more_o expert_a and_o facile_a this_o proof_n suppose_v that_o nothing_o be_v essential_a to_o baptism_n that_o be_v nothing_o by_o christ_n institution_n be_v of_o necessity_n requisite_a unto_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n but_o water_n and_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n i_o answer_v in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n administer_v according_a to_o christ_n ordinance_n we_o conceive_v a_o be_v or_o entity_n comprehend_v under_o certain_a limit_n as_o all_o unite_z and_o individual_a thing_n be_v take_v that_o sacrament_n as_o a_o individual_a be_v make_v by_o motion_n there_o be_v nothing_o require_v to_o the_o be_v thereof_o but_o the_o water_n and_o word_n of_o institution_n and_o so_o far_o this_o argument_n suppose_v right_o but_o nothing_o against_o we_o for_o we_o do_v not_o deny_v a_o entity_n or_o be_v unto_o popish_a baptism_n we_o know_v when_o water_n be_v pour_v on_o and_o the_o word_n pronounce_v there_o be_v a_o motion_n and_o a_o thing_n make_v by_o motion_n which_o be_v not_o before_o and_o be_v distinct_a from_o all_o other_o motion_n or_o thing_n make_v by_o motion_n in_o the_o sacrament_n so_o true_o administer_v there_o be_v likewise_o beside_o the_o say_v individual_a entity_n or_o be_v a_o certain_a connotation_n or_o essential_a relation_n and_o that_o three_o way_n 1._o of_o man_n to_o god_n 2._o of_o the_o sacrament_n itself_o 3._o of_o god_n unto_o man_n in_o the_o first_o relation_n man_n show_v his_o obedience_n to_o god_n in_o the_o second_o and_o three_o man_n be_v order_v unto_o heaven_n so_o far_o as_o the_o sacrament_n can_v man_n be_v thereby_o confirm_v in_o the_o expectation_n of_o god_n love_n and_o the_o receipt_n of_o inherent_a grace_n now_o unto_o this_o relation_n or_o order_v to_o heaven_n more_o thing_n be_v essential_a then_o water_n and_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n namely_o the_o sacred_a revelation_n believe_v by_o a_o divine_a faith_n which_o i_o say_v do_v so_o order_v we_o to_o heaven_n by_o command_v their_o use_n and_o promise_a god_n favour_n and_o work_a grace_n to_o such_o as_o use_v they_o right_o from_o the_o first_o arise_v our_o obedience_n from_o the_o second_o our_o assure_a expectation_n of_o his_o favour_n and_o grace_n and_o thus_o much_o this_o opponent_n himself_o will_v confess_v i_o doubt_v not_o nothing_o i_o presume_v will_v be_v question_v in_o this_o answer_n but_o this_o distinction_n but_o i_o suppose_v no_o such_o thing_n will_v be_v because_o the_o matter_n be_v clear_a in_o it_o self_n the_o name_n sacrament_n import_v that_o there_o be_v this_o connotation_n or_o relation_n over_o and_o above_o the_o unite_z and_o individual_a entity_n thereof_o for_o it_o signify_v at_o least_o that_o the_o unite_v and_o individual_a thing_n be_v sacred_a and_o holy_a and_o that_o be_v more_o than_o the_o individual_a entity_n itself_o but_o howsoever_o it_o be_v with_o other_o this_o opponent_n must_v not_o oppose_v the_o latter_a branch_n of_o the_o distinction_n for_o himself_o do_v teach_v it_o express_o if_o not_o more_o full_o than_o i_o have_v set_v forth_o thus_o he_o write_v pag._n 47._o the_o very_a be_v and_o nature_n of_o the_o sacrament_n consist_v altogether_o in_o relation_n to_o some_o such_o gift_n and_o grace_v supernatural_a as_o god_n only_o can_v bestow_v these_o thing_n be_v sufficient_a as_o i_o conceive_v to_o satisfy_v his_o first_o argument_n in_o behalf_n of_o popish_a baptism_n his_o second_o follow_v in_o this_o form_n if_o the_o baptism_n in_o the_o romish_a church_n be_v not_o true_a than_o it_o must_v be_v iterate_v when_o they_o turn_v to_o us._n but_o the_o romish_a baptism_n may_v not_o be_v iterate_v when_o they_o turn_v to_o us._n therefore_o the_o baptism_n in_o the_o romish_a church_n be_v true_a baptism_n i_o answer_v if_o by_o true_a baptism_n he_o understand_v all_o thing_n of_o necessity_n require_v unto_o baptism_n than_o this_o conclusion_n serve_v our_o purpose_n in_o the_o present_a question_n for_o we_o inquyre_v and_o search_v after_o such_o a_o baptism_n otherwise_o not_o in_o that_o 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