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A03857	The advise of a sonne, novv professing the religion established in the present Church of England, to his deare mother, yet a Roman Catholike	Hungerford, Anthony, Sir, 1564-1627.	1616 (1616)	STC 13971.5; ESTC S115241	23,830	40

thus q De tradit p. 45. shall no bounds be set to popular rude and carnal men shall old men before they haue put off the filth of their minds and young men that yet speake like children bee admitted to read the Scriptures I suppose verily my opinion fayles me not this ordināce vnder the pretense of piety was invented by the divell Another of the same plume to feare vs from reading Gods holy word tels a story of certaine men that were possessed of a divel r Thirrac de demoniacis c. 21. th 157. because being but husbādmen they were able to discourse of the holy Scriptures ſ Index lib. prohibi Pij 4. Reg. 4. It is true that by the rule of Pope Pius the fourth such of the Laitie may read the Scriptures as haue licence from their lawfull Ordinary so to doe t Ibid. But if any Lay person shall presume to looke into the holy Scriptures without such licence he must knowe his penaltie to bee no lesse then to be dented the pardon of his sinnes The late Pope Clement the 8. better belike considering how well it went with their triple crowne when they kept the Laity wholly from searching into the book of God as in u Linwood in const t. prov l. 5. titulo de Magistris § quin. times past they indeavoured carpeth at the rule of his predecessour and resolueth at the last x The observa●●●●s of Pope Clement the 8. 〈◊〉 the r●le of Pope P●●● the 4. that notwithstanding this constitution of Pope Pius Bishops haue no power at all to grant any such licence to the Laitie of reading Gods holy words Neverthelesse betweene the enterfiering of these holy Fathers it passes in priat by my Masters of Rhemes y In their ●●e● to their transla● of the new Testament That such of the Laitie may be readers in Gods word as are permitted by their Ordinaries vpon certificate from their parish Priest or Confessour that they be humble sober and discreet persons c. But I beseech you note the vpshot of all First this discreet Lay reader must admit this for a principle z Hosius Confess Polon p. 385. That little of Gods word is cōmitted to writing That the greatest part of it is come to vs by tradition the which we must receaue from ours Catholike Mother declaring her selfe by the mouth of our holy father the Pope of Rome The next rule this discreet Lay reader must learne to follow is a Concil Trident Sess 4. That no man must giue any other exposition of Scripture then such as might agree with the doctrine of the Crurch of Rome a reason whereof Andradius that great defendor of the faith of Trent can giue vs because b Defens sid Trident. l. 2. All power to interpret the Scriptures and reveale the hidden mysteries of our religion is giuen from heaven to the Popes and their Councells Where though the Councells be placed as a page to attend the Pope yet the resolution of all is this as before I haue noted that if the Councell shall dissent in iudgement from the Pope c Sententia Papae praeferenda est sententiae omniū aliorum Turrecremata sum de Eccle l. 3. c. 64. concl ● The iudgement of the Pope is to be preferred before the iudgement of all others saith the Cardinall Turrecremata Of whom another writer of the Roman Church in plaine toarmes affirmeth d Zumel disp var tom 3. pag. 49 That he is the master of our faith and cannot but attaine the truth of faith nor can be deceaued or erre if as chiefe Bishop and master of the faith he set downe his determination From all which it is evident if you marke it well that although these e Paulo 5. Vicedeo c. a dedication to the prefet Pope Vicedet of Rome could never compasse wholly to suppresse the sacred Scriptures as with good discretion possibly they might haue bin cōtented considering how eagerly this holy word pursues thē still with hue cry which was well obserued by Pope Leo the 10. when in his familiar discourse with his friend the Cardinall Bembus he vttered this vnsavory speech f Quantum lucri apportavit nobis Curiae nostrae fabula ista de Iesu Christo Baleus de act Rom. pontif in Leone l. 7. what profit hath this fable of Iesus Christ brought to vs or our court yet by vnspeakeable sleights and art accompanied in these later ages of the world with strange successe by Gods permission they haue indevoured to bring the sence of the holy scriptures in safe custody to themselues alone then locking it fast with a rabble of grosse inventions styled the Churches traditions in the closet of their breasts of both together they haue ingeniously framed the ladder wherby they haue mounted into the throne of their vsurped soveraignety in spiritual and earthly dominion then taking vpon themselues alone to be the only never-erring oracles of Christian religion whē their children haue come to craue bread of them in place of that they haue given thē stones wherewithal neverthelesse for g Although the Pope being negligent of his own and others salvation drawe with him innumerable soules to hell there to bee tormented for ever yet may no mortall man repraue him for it for that he is to iudge all men himselfe to bee iudged of no mā dist 40. si Papae manners sake their hungry soules must rest contented although in the meane time they pine to death for want of the true food of life Possibly you wil thinke I write in humor and misreport them O that I might be so happy as that you would giue me leaue to avow the truth of these things before you in the presence of any one of my masters of Rome that would oppose it They wil tel you they may not be seene without peril of their liues as the case stands with thē at this day in England and it is true that the lawes sound out severity against them but in execution they finde them remisse enough for my part I know frō my first acquaintance with them they can equivocate in apparel as wel as language and seeme to bee any thing saving what they are for this purpose I would surrender my iudgement to mine eies and take them for such as their habit should declare thē God is witnes with me I mallice not their persons I will cōfesse I cannot but condemne their craft and pitty such as are inchaunted by them The truth is they are cruel Iaylors and mure vp your vnderstanding in these things as their close prisoner wel knowing that if once they giue you but libertie to heare freely what might be said against them they are sure to loose you I beseech you deare Mother for the loue you beare to God to thinke maturelie of this great affaire It concernes your soule that for eternitie and your day of preparation by the course of nature is far declining Certainly the fault of my masters of Rome who mislead you is inexcusable yet wil not their fault proue your excuse The account for your soule wil be required at your own hands ignorāce without questiō will prove no answere at the judgement day It is not only a feareful sin when it misleads vs from the way of our salvation but a grievous punishment that pursues mankind for the first transgression I know your zeale to the service of God is great but zeale without knowledge carries with it in the holy Scriptures a just reproofe I cannot expect you should vpon my saying abādon the religiō you haue so long embraced this only shall be my humble request that for his loue that suffered a bitter ignominious death to bring vs to a life of glory and eternity that you would resolve speedily to lend an indifferent eare to some debate of this point by persons learned of either side for which purpose although the meanenes of my cōdition may chalenge nothing frō this state of merit yet would I hope to finde the favour for so charitable a worke as the good of a soule which a kingdome cannot redeeme that some learned Priest of the Romish fashion without perill of the lawe might be suffered to haue accesse to you so that you would be willing to admit with all the presence of some moderate graue and learned man of the contrary part betweene whom if it might please you to stand but attentiue with a mind free of preiudice my hope would be and my vnfained prayer should concurre with it that God would bee pleased to open your heart as he did of Lydia that good woman and make you able to discerne betweene his truth delivered in his holy word and the impostures of the present Church of Rome If you should cōsult herein with any one of my masters of Rome I know he would disswade you from this course he would sing Syrene-like pretending this care that it is not now safe for you to disquiet your conscience with questions of this kind wheras in truth his aime only would be to hold you stil a captiue in the bōds of error ignorāce security But God I trust in his good time wil disappoint their drifts to whom frō my heart I will daily pray as charity conscience and duty binds me that in mercy he wil be pleased to direct your good intention with a true vnderstanding of his will that so your commendable desire of salvation being accompanied with a right endeavour in the way may carry you through this pilgrimage of sorrowes into the place of everlasting joyes FINIS

sometimes affords to her zealous children if my masters of ſ Rhem annot in Lue cap. 23. v. 24. Rhemes bee not deceived Shee that teacheth vs to doe good workes wil make vs beleeue they are t The heaven'y blessednes which the Scripture calleth the reward of the iust is not give them of God gratis and freely but is due to their workes yet God hath set forth heaven to sale for our workes Andraed Orthodox expl ● lib. 6. meritorious ex condigno and so turne our Christiā duties into glorious sins Shee that teacheth vs that Gods written Word is true will haue vs beleeue withall That it containes u Can loc l. 3. c. 3. not all the doctrine of our salvation and commaunds vs not to x Index libit proh Pij quarti Reg. 4. reade it without her leaue nor vnderstande it but according to the sence y No man may giue other exposition of the Scriptures there such as might agree with the doctrine of the Church of Rome Concil Trid Sess 4. she giues vs. So that if we marke it well shee doth no more then the enemy of mankind is observed to doe who many times for a vantage vtters truth that after he may finde the fairer passage to delude with error And if the grosse absurdities now currant in the Roman Church apart from these formes of truth were laide open to the view of all men I am perswaded in my conscience there is not so simple a Christian living at this day that makes any care of his dutie to God but would abhorre them But herein my masters of Rome declare themselues ingenious in their craft who wel foreseeing that this coine cannot passe for currant in the light vent it ever in the darke so that of many thousands that receiue it scarse any one doth vnderstand it in particular and if any Lay-person more curious then others come by chance to know it yet admitting the principles which he must learne withal it is no more possible for him to judge of it thē for any man in the darke to discerne of colors for as the eye of the body is not vseful at al but in the light no more is our vnderstanding enabled to distinguish betweene truth and errour in the doctrine of christianity but in the glorious light of the holy Scriptures The ignorance of these is assigned by Christ our Saviour z Mat. 22.29 to be a reason of error and we are taught by the Prophet David That the a Psal 119. vers 130. enterance of Gods word giueth light that it giueth vnderstanding to the simple With him the blessed Apostle accords b Tim. 3.15 and tels vs that the holy Scriptures are able to make vs wise vnto salvation This wisedome my masters of Rome approue not in the Laytie they like best that scholler that soonest learnes and contents himselfe with the c Recorded and commended by Staphylus Hosius and others Colliars Creede To beleeue in grosse as doth their Church without being able to render a reason of any article of the religion hee professeth It is gravely delivered by the Rhemists in their annotations vpon Saint Lukes Gospell d Rhem annot on Luk 12.11 That if a Catholike man being called before the commission answere that he is a Catholike man and that he will liue and die in that faith which the Catholike Church teacheth and that this Church can giue them a reason of al the things which they demand of him hee answeres enough and defends himselfe sufficiently Now the better to prepare the Laytie to this sufficiencie they permit them not to reade the Scriptures but with licence and never but with this caution to admit no other sence of what they reade in them but such as these my masters vnder the name of the Catholike Church shall recommend vnto them By which wily sleight they deprive them of al vse of their judgement in the matter of their salvation and of the Scriptures both at once and in place thereof leave them furnished only to maintain the doctrine they haue embraced with the pretended name and authoritie of the Catholike Church For instance in this giue me leave deare Mother without your offence to appeale to your selfe if it were demanded of you by what warrant you hold it lawfull to pray to Saints to worship Images to pray for foules departed and the like your answere I presume would be that herein you follow the doctrine of the Catholike Church which being ever directed by the holy Ghost cannot deceive vs. I must confesse the authority of the Catholike Church rightly vnderstood ought much to moue vs consisting in a generall sence of all that cōpany which in all ages places of the world haue joyned in profession of al the principles of the true religion But if to chalenge to our selues the name of the Church were of it selfe enough without question it would follow that God should haue as many Churches as there haue bin heresies in the world For never haue there been any authors of those impieties but haue endeavoured to giue them countenance vnder the shadow name of the Catholike Church I wil not enter here into any discussion of the doctrine mainetained at this day in the Roman Church which were but to weede in a field of tares the absurdity of it is made visible to the world by the learned labours of many reverent and worthy Pastors of our Church I will only in this place declare in what sence my masters of Rome vnderstand the Catholike Church with the sound whereof they continually fill your eares as being the maine supporters of al they teach you And first this principle is worthy to be noted well which we learne from the most eminent writer of the Papacie at this day e Bellarm de effect sacram lab 2. cap. 25. That the truth of all ancient Councels and of all points of faith dependeth vpon the authoritie of the present Church where if we desire to know what he meanes by the Church the Cardinals interpreter plainely tels vs f Gretser defens Bellarm com 1. pag. 1450. B. That when they affirme the Church to be iudge of al controversies of faith by the Church they vnderstand the Bishop of Rome who for the time governes the shippe of the militant Church and by liuely voice doth clearely and expressely expound his iudgement to them that seeke to him To this purpose another great Rabbin amongst them delivereth plainely g Gregor de Valent. in Tho. 22. tom 3. Disput 1. punct 7. q 5. That the Apostolike Church is therefore faid to be infallible because he is over it who by himselfe hath infallible authority And if wee would knowe who that He is that hath this infallible authoritie we may learne from the Jesuite Swares h Suares in 3. Thom. tom 1. disput 44. sect 1. pag. 677. That it is the Pope whose determinatiō he affirmes to be the

vpon vs that are of the Laitie and learners in Gods Church as a duty to beleeue the doctrine our Pastors teach vs without examination My masters of Rome if you shall bee pleased to demaund of them whether it may bee lawfull for you to examine the doctrine they recommend vnto you their answere you may see in the annotations of the Rhemish testament y Rhem Annot act 17.11 That you must not try and iudge whether your teachers doctrine be true or no neither may you reiect that which you finde not in the scriptures If you shal reply and demaunde of them to what purpose the holy Ghost then forwarned vs of false Prophets that shal come into the world of ravenous Wolues that shal invade the Church of seducers that shal so plausibly carry themselues as that they shal deceiue if possible Gods chosen children they wil ful wisely tel you that al this hath no respect to them who vpon their words wee may beleeue thē if wee list are the true pastors of the Catholike church which cannot erre whereas God wot like petty chapmen they vent no other but the deceiptful wares of the great merchant the Pope of Rome vnder the counterfeit marke name of the Catholike church But to the point in hand it is the precept of Christ in general to al his servants z Mat. 7.15 That they beware of false Prophets to a ● Ioh. 4.1 try the spirits not to beleeue every spirit Al which of necessity must presuppose some examination wherein we are not to follow our owne reason fancie or private spirit but to be guided by that rule which for this purpose the body Prophet doth direct b Esa 8.10 the testimony and the law from precept if we passe to example wee shal finde it recorded to the perpetual praise of the men of Berea c Sect. 17.11 that when the Apostle preached Christ vnto them out of the law and the Prophets they diligently searched in the holy scriptures whether those things be delivered were so or no. And was it lawful commendable in these good Christians to examine the doctrine which was taught the by that elected vessel of God and wil these Lucifugi of Rome make you beleeue it s since for you to hold the like course with them It may be my in afters of Rome for once wil beare with these men of Berea and yet not approue their doing as a rule to follow Possibly they wil not stick to tel vs that in the Churches infancie they were not so wel instructed in good manners as since the scholler● of the Romame church haue bin But shal womē say they shal mē vnlearned be fit able to iudge of their pastors instruction I would know of these my masters whether Lydia the purple seller the womā of whō it is written d Act. 16.14 That God opened her heart were then fit able to judge between the doctrine of the Pharifies refusing Christ yet advancing the law of Moses the Apostles instruction the blessed messenger of the Gospell of Christ● were Priscilla with her husband Aquila fit and able to judge of the doctrine of a worthy Pastor of the Church e Act. 18.26 Whom after they had heard they tooke privately vnto them and instructed in the way of God more perfectly Questionlesse if any Priscilla should be so bould at this day with the meanest of my masters of Rome she should bee sent packing with the scornefull phrase of Scripturist Scripturian doctoresse Apostolesse or some such foolery But Wisdome is justified of her children wee are taught by the blessed Apostle f 2. Tim. 3.16 That the Scriptures are able to make vs wise vnto salvation the Kingly Prophet accords with this and telleth vs g Psal 19.8 That the testimony of God is faithfull and giueth wisedome vnto little ones This wisedome my masters of Rome haue found fatall to them and therefore although for feare of the people they dare not in plaine tearmes entertaine the holy Scriptures when they are encountred with them with such a greeting as Ahab that wicked King gaue the Prophet Elias h 1. Kin. 21.20 Hast thou found vs o our enemie Yet is it worthy deare Mother of your obsertatiō to note by what wily sleights straines of wit they haue practised to depriue the world of all vse of them First they like not to have them trāslated into the vulgar tongue of euery natiō whereby the vnlearned and common sort might come to know them To this purpose I pray you marke a Iesuites language i Azotius Instit tom 1. l. 8. c. 26. It is demanded saith hee whether the sacred Scriptures may be translated into the mother tongue of every nation that every one may the better reade vnderstand them I answere that Lutherans Calvinists are in that heresie that they affirme the sacred Scripture ought to be trāslated into the vulgar language of all nations against whom the Councell of Trent hath made a solemne decree and with this Iesuite agrees our countriman Reynolds the Priest k Calvino-turcismus p. 825. It seemes to me saith this Seminary that this prophane revealing of the divine misteries is odiously cōtrary to the will of God and to the nature of the mysteries themselues l Ibid. p. 831. The manifold and great mischiefes which by the translation of the Scripture haue risen against the Maiestie of God against the holinesse of the Scripture it selfe against the tranquilitie of States against the faith and good conversation of men should haue force enough vtterly to suppresse these translations yea albeit they were supported by divine or Apostolicall authoritie Thus he My masters of Rhemes notwithstanding this wisely taking into their considerations m In their preface to their translation of the new testament the present time state and condition of our countrey vnto which divers things are either necessarie or profitable and medicinable now that otherwise in the peace of the Church were neither much requisite nor perchance wholly toller able haue sent vs a translation such as it is yet durst they not send it abroad alone but vnder safe custodie of their peevish Comment which like a theefe lyes lurking by to steale from the Reader the true sence of this holy word Thus you may see how vnwillingly and against their appetite they haue beene brought to translate the Scriptures into our vulgar language Their next sleight to bee noted is the practise and devise they vse to restraine and discourage vs that are of the Laitie from reading in them For whereas we finde it to haue beene familiar with Christ and his Apostles while they were conversant on the earth to direct their schollers with n Ioh. 5.36 search the scriptures o Luc. 10.26 how readest thou p Coloss 3.16 Let Gods word dwell plentifully in you to such like purpose Peresius a Popish Bishop declaimeth