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A59898 A vindication of a passage in Dr. Sherlock's sermon preached before the honourable House of Commons, May 29, 1685 : from the remarks of a late pretended remonstrance, by way of address from the Church of England, to both Houses of Parliament. Sherlock, William, 1641?-1707. 1685 (1685) Wing S3369; ESTC R202693 19,865 30

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council_n const._n sess._n 45._o omnes_fw-la &_o singulos_fw-la haereticos_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la necnon_fw-la sectatores_fw-la ipsarum_fw-la haeresum_fw-la &_o errorum_fw-la utriusque_fw-la sexùs_fw-la tenentes_fw-la &_o etiam_fw-la defendentes_fw-la eosdem_fw-la &_o haereticis_fw-la ipsis_fw-la quo_fw-la modo_fw-la libet_fw-la publicè_fw-la vel_fw-la occultè_fw-la in_o divinis_fw-la vel_fw-la alius_fw-la participantes_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la patriarchali_n episcopali_fw-la regali_fw-la reginali_n ducali_n aut_fw-la aliâ_fw-la quâvis_fw-la ecclesiasticà_fw-la vel_fw-la mundanâ_fw-la praesulgeant_fw-la dignitate_fw-la excommunicatos_fw-la singulos_fw-la diebus_fw-la dominicis_fw-la &_o festivis_fw-la in_o praesentia_fw-la populi_fw-la nuntietis_fw-la &_o per_fw-la alios_fw-la nuntiari_fw-la faciatis_fw-la et_fw-la nihil_fw-la ominous_a contra_fw-la eosdem_fw-la omnes_fw-la &_o singulos_fw-la utriusque_fw-la sexus_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la errores_fw-la tenentes_fw-la approbantes_fw-la 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p._n 18._o p._n 10._o p._n 13._o p._n 14._o answer_v to_o the_o first_o treatise_n p._n 5._o ibid._n p._n 71._o remonst_z p._n 2._o