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A38575 A treatise of excommunication wherein 'tis fully, learnedly, and modestly demonstrated that there is no warrant ... for excommunicating any persons ... whilst they make an outward profession of the true Christian faith / written originally in Latine by ... Thomas Erastus ... about the year 1568.; Explicatio gravissimae quaestionis utrum excommunicatio. English Erastus, Thomas, 1524-1583. 1682 (1682) Wing E3218; ESTC R20859 61,430 96

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〈◊〉_d col._n 2._o 3._o and_o gal._n 5._o 12._o and_o 6._o 14._o be_v put_v for_o mortification_n of_o the_o fleshly_a lust_n but_o for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d they_o be_v not_o meet_v with_o in_o that_o sense_n either_o in_o sacred_a or_o profane_a author_n nor_o in_o truth_n do_v i_o remember_v myself_o to_o have_v read_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v so_o take_v it_o be_v therefore_o a_o poor_a evasion_n that_o some_o frame_n suppose_v paul_n here_o to_o distinguish_v betwixt_o the_o affection_n of_o the_o flesh_n and_o the_o spirit_n since_o he_o here_o set_v the_o destruction_n of_o the_o flesh_n or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o the_o death_n of_o the_o body_n against_o the_o save_n of_o the_o soul_n or_o spirit_n as_o both_o the_o genuine_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n the_o drift_n and_o purpose_n of_o paul_n the_o whole_a series_n and_o circumstance_n of_o the_o discourse_n and_o the_o very_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o deliver_v so_o unquestionable_o demonstrate_v that_o any_o lover_n of_o truth_n can_v but_o sit_v down_o satisfy_v under_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o but_o sixthly_a the_o follow_a word_n that_o the_o spirit_n may_v be_v save_v in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n that_o be_v in_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n give_v far_o testimony_n to_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o interpretation_n and_o be_v a_o convince_a demonstration_n that_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o this_o wicked_a one_o as_o of_o one_o who_o death_n be_v at_o hand_n seven_o and_o last_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 2_o cor._n 2._o v._n 6._o which_o we_o translate_v punishment_n but_o ought_v rather_o to_o be_v render_v censure_n argue_v he_o be_v not_o expulse_v from_o the_o sacrament_n for_o in_o its_o primitive_a signification_n it_o be_v put_v for_o chide_v censure_v reprove_v or_o rebuke_v and_o the_o like_a as_o interpreter_n common_o translate_v it_o not_o for_o 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