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A42386 A brief examination of the present Roman Catholick faith contained in Pope Pius his new creed, by the Scriptures, antient fathers and their own modern writers, in answer to a letter desiring satisfaction concerning the visibility of the protestant church and religion in all ages, especially before Luther's time. Gardiner, Samuel, 1619 or 20-1686. 1689 (1689) Wing G244; ESTC R29489 119,057 129

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gift_n of_o heal_v the_o body_n as_o we_o may_v gather_v from_o mar._n place_n so_o cajetan_n expound_v that_o place_n 6.13_o it_o have_v no_o spiritual_a effect_n on_o the_o soul_n as_o all_o sacrament_n proper_o so_o call_v have_v and_o must_v have_v as_o be_v grant_v the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n be_v by_o prayer_n to_o god_n not_o oil_n ver_fw-la 15._o transub_v nor_o transub_v second_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o teach_v transubstantiation_n 3._o durand_n biel_n scotus_n cameracensis_n cajetan_n grant_v it_o canbe_n not_o evident_o prove_v from_o the_o scripture_n see_v below_o matth._n 26.26_o 1_o cor._n 10.16_o 17._o card._n contarenus_n de_fw-fr sacram_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 3._o canus_n loc_fw-la theol._n l._n 3._o c_o 3._o fisher_n cont_n luther_n c._n 10._o say_v the_o same_o 1_o cor._n 11.26_o 27_o 28._o verse_n 29._o the_o church_n be_v call_v christ_n body_n be_v it_o therefore_o his_o natural_a body_n in_o a_o literal_a sense_n 1_o cor._n 10._o john_n 15.1_o do_v christ_n eat_v his_o own_o body_n when_o the_o sacrament_n be_v administer_v and_o take_v by_o he_o so_o chrysostom_n hom_o 40_o in_o jean_n 3._o or_o that_o by_o consecration_n the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v annihilate_v or_o turn_v into_o the_o substance_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n yea_o st._n paul_n express_o declare_v the_o contrary_a for_o he_o call_v it_o bread_n and_o wine_n even_o after_o consecration_n the_o bread_n that_o we_o break_v but_o christ_n first_o bless_v and_o afterward_o break_v it_o be_v it_o not_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n the_o cup_n of_o blessing_n we_o bless_v be_v it_o not_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n so_o that_o bread_n and_o the_o cup_n i._n e._n by_o a_o figure_n or_o metonymy_n as_o all_o must_v grant_v the_o wine_n in_o the_o cup_n remain_v in_o the_o communion_n as_o mean_n whereby_o we_o obtain_v the_o communion_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o
punishment_n proper_o so_o call_v to_o be_v inflict_v by_o god_n for_o they_o whole_o and_o only_o to_o the_o blood_n merit_n and_o satisfaction_n of_o christ_n our_o saviour_n and_o redeemer_n who_o be_v high_o dishonour_v by_o these_o pretend_a pardous_a saint_n paul_n not_o without_o some_o indignation_n ask_v the_o corinthian_n be_v paul_n crucify_v for_o you_o 1.13_o 1_o cor._n 1.13_o if_o the_o suffering_n of_o st._n paul_n and_o other_o saint_n satisfy_v at_o least_o in_o part_n for_o man_n sin_n or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o for_o the_o temporal_a punishment_n due_a to_o they_o why_o may_v it_o not_o be_v true_o say_v that_o paul_n as_o well_o as_o christ_n be_v crucify_v or_o suffer_v death_n for_o we_o indeed_o i_o can_v but_o wonder_v at_o the_o strange_a perverseness_n of_o our_o adversary_n who_o will_v by_o no_o mean_n grant_v that_o the_o merit_n righteousness_n and_o obedience_n especial_o active_a of_o christ_n be_v or_o can_v be_v through_o say_v impute_v unto_o we_o 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the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o no_o doubt_n he_o have_v a_o love_n for_o every_o one_o of_o they_o saint_n james_n his_o brother_n or_o cousin_n be_v make_v bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n by_o the_o apostle_n and_o succeed_v our_o saviour_n in_o his_o throne_n as_o epiphanius_n say_v why_o may_v not_o either_o of_o these_o plead_v a_o right_a of_o supremacy_n as_o well_o as_o peter_n three_o saint_n paul_n although_o he_o be_v novissimus_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la the_o last_o apostle_n call_v after_o all_o the_o rest_n 12.11_o 2_o cor._n 12.11_o yet_o he_o say_v he_o think_v he_o come_v not_o behind_o even_o the_o chief_a apostle_n yea_o 15.10_o 1_o cor._n 15.10_o that_o he_o labour_v more_o than_o they_o all_o and_o have_v on_o he_o the_o care_n of_o all_o the_o church_n 11.28_o 2_o cor._n 11.28_o can_v we_o think_v he_o will_v have_v presume_v to_o have_v write_v of_o himself_o in_o such_o a_o high_a manner_n if_o he_o have_v think_v that_o christ_n his_o lord_n have_v appoint_v 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