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they_o then_o they_o frame_v their_o two_o admonition_n in_o one_o of_o which_o p._n 60_o 61._o they_o tell_v the_o parliament_n that_o their_o discipline_n be_v god_n order_n and_o they_o must_v in_o conscience_n speak_v for_o it_o and_o use_v it_o and_o anno_fw-la 1572._o they_o erect_v a_o presbytery_n at_o wandsworth_n the_o elder_n be_v name_v the_o person_n name_v that_o set_v up_o meeting_n be_v mr._n field_n wilcox_n standen_n jackson_n bentham_n sancler_n crane_n edmond_n and_o after_o clark_n travers_n barber_n gardiner_n cheston_n crook_n egerton_n anno_fw-la 1582._o there_o be_v a_o meeting_n of_o threescore_o minister_n out_o of_o essex_n cambridgshire_n and_o norfolk_n at_o cock-field_n mr._n knewstubs_n town_n and_o another_o that_o year_n at_o a_o commencement_n at_o cambridge_n chap._n 3._o that_o they_o draw_v up_o a_o book_n of_o their_o discipline_n where_o choice_n of_o minister_n elder_n deacon_n etc._n etc._n be_v name_v and_o regulate_v and_o for_o classical_a 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not_o full_a answ_n i_o see_v none_o of_o those_o i_o come_v in_o divers_a where_o many_o can_v hear_v the_o preacher_n and_o will_v you_o have_v more_o and_o again_o i_o tell_v you_o 1._o they_o keep_v meeting_n in_o lesser_a parish_n to_o receive_v those_o that_o come_v out_o of_o great_a 2._o if_o those_o come_v to_o you_o they_o must_v keep_v out_o other_o 3._o when_o it_o be_v common_o know_v that_o in_o their_o own_o great_a parish_n there_o be_v not_o room_n it_o be_v hard_a for_o family_n to_o look_v about_o the_o city_n for_o room_n in_o uncertain_a place_n 4._o and_o all_o person_n that_o culpable_o dislike_v you_o be_v not_o therefore_o to_o be_v forsake_v sect._n 22._o but_o the_o same_o man_n that_o cit_v my_o reprehension_n of_o separation_n ask_v i_o why_o i_o do_v not_o disow_v it_o as_o if_o he_o present_o forget_v what_o he_o have_v write_v i_o disow_v schism_n and_o therefore_o the_o great_a in_o the_o sinful_a church-tearers_a that_o smite_v the_o shepherd_n and_o then_o cry_v out_o of_o the_o flock_n for_o be_v scatter_v and_o i_o disow_v the_o least_o but_o not_o by_o cruelty_n but_o in_o charity_n sect._n 23._o p._n 127._o he_o repeat_v the_o incapacity_n name_v by_o i_o viz._n in_o knowledge_n and_o utterance_n by_o heresy_n etc._n etc._n and_o say_v of_o all_o these_o the_o people_n be_v judge_n and_o so_o many_o separate_v thus_o no_o settle_a church_n can_v subsist_v etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o it_o be_v a_o hard_a case_n that_o in_o such_o a_o volumn_n as_o this_o he_o will_v not_o tell_v we_o his_o own_o judgement_n further_o than_o the_o accuse_v of_o we_o intimate_v it_o which_o if_o we_o tell_v he_o of_o he_o can_v say_v it_o be_v not_o his_o sense_n will_v he_o open_o say_v that_o the_o people_n have_v not_o a_o private_a judgement_n of_o discretion_n in_o order_n to_o their_o own_o practice_n whether_o the_o preacher_n be_v a_o heretic_n papist_n infidel_n idolater_n or_o not_o but_o must_v take_v he_o for_o their_o pastor_n be_v he_o what_o he_o will_v i_o know_v he_o will_v not_o say_v it_o what_o then_o will_v he_o be_v at_o why_o do_v he_o accuse_v we_o for_o that_o which_o he_o dare_v not_o contradict_v do_v he_o any_o where_o tell_v we_o in_o what_o case_n and_o how_o far_o they_o must_v judge_v no_o he_o shun_v all_o such_o question_n as_o tend_v to_o bring_v the_o cause_n into_o the_o light_n put_v twenty_o and_o he_o will_v answer_v few_o or_o none_o of_o they_o if_o he_o do_v perhaps_o we_o shall_v be_v agree_v whether_o he_o will_v or_o not_o but_o reader_n bear_v these_o tire_a repetition_n as_o i_o must_v do_v 1._o he_o know_v that_o it_o be_v the_o ordainer_n and_o not_o the_o people_n who_o i_o make_v judge_n who_o shall_v be_v a_o minister_n 2._o that_o it_o be_v the_o king_n and_o patron_n that_o i_o make_v the_o only_a judge_n who_o shall_v be_v tolerate_v and_o maintain_v by_o they_o and_o have_v the_o tithe_n and_o temple_n 3._o and_o that_o though_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v many_o hundred_o year_n for_o the_o people_n election_n i_o plead_v ad_fw-la esse_fw-la relationis_fw-la for_o no_o more_o as_o necessary_a but_o consent_n who_o shall_v be_v the_o pastor_n to_o who_o they_o will_v trust_v the_o conduct_n of_o their_o soul_n and_o this_o be_v but_o judicium_fw-la discretionis_fw-la &_o privatum_fw-la non_fw-la publicum_fw-la regentis_fw-la only_o guide_v each_o man_n own_o obedience_n to_o god_n 4._o he_o know_v if_o he_o will_v know_v that_o i._o say_v and_o say_v again_o that_o the_o advantage_n of_o the_o law_n and_o ruler_n favour_v and_o the_o tithe_n and_o temple_n and_o parish_n order_n and_o national_a association_n be_v so_o great_a advantage_n to_o the_o service_n of_o god_n that_o no_o man_n shall_v be_v deprive_v of_o they_o and_o go_v another_o way_n but_o upon_o necessity_n and_o very_o great_a and_o urgent_a cause_n but_o i_o intend_v god_n will_v further_o to_o prove_v to_o he_o that_o when_o 9000_o minister_n be_v all_o require_v to_o sin_n or_o cease_v their_o ministry_n a_o necessity_n be_v put_v upon_o they_o to_o exercise_v it_o against_o such_o prohibition_n as_o far_o as_o they_o can_v without_o do_v more_o hurt_v than_o good_a and_o that_o the_o sinful_a compliance_n of_o 7000_o will_v not_o excuse_v the_o other_o 2000_o for_o this_o duty_n and_o this_o be_v the_o case_n which_o a_o friend_n of_o truth_n shall_v have_v debate_v sect._n 24._o p._n 126._o but_o say_v he_o how_o shall_v a_o man_n escape_v be_v think_v heretical_a by_o the_o people_n answ_n 1._o see_v his_o own_o answer_n here_o chap._n 1._o 2._o how_o shall_v one_o get_v all_o the_o world_n to_o be_v wise_a and_o good_a if_o i_o know_v i_o can_v procure_v it_o but_o put_v the_o case_n within_o
be_v it_o his_o own_o â—…act_n or_o be_v he_o therefore_o not_o oblige_v by_o it_o have_v it_o not_o be_v requisite_a that_o you_o shall_v have_v justify_v all_o that_o we_o stick_v at_o as_o unlawful_a before_o you_o charge_v we_o with_o cross_v this_o rule_n sect._n 56._o p._n 204_o etc._n etc._n my_o word_n in_o many_o book_n against_o schism_n be_v cite_v and_o praise_v reader_n he_o tell_v man_n the_o measure_n of_o their_o charity_n and_o church_n communion_n viz._n that_o man_n that_o do_v as_o much_o as_o i_o do_v that_o forbear_v so_o long_o sacramental_a administration_n that_o gather_v no_o church_n that_o hold_v constant_a communion_n with_o divers_a parish_n church_n that_o have_v write_v so_o much_o and_o earnest_o against_o schism_n shall_v yet_o be_v eject_v silence_v pay_v 40_o â—_o a_o sermon_n and_o lie_n in_o jail_n unless_o i_o will_v do_v more_o while_o bishop_n laud_n design_n for_o widen_v the_o church_n door_n to_o the_o papist_n be_v magnify_v by_o heylin_n and_o other_o as_o a_o good_a work_n sect._n 13._o first_o he_o find_v but_o two_o justifiable_a cause_n of_o separation_n but_o p._n 213_o 214._o he_o have_v find_v three_o and_o no_o more_o 1._o idolatrous_a worship_n 2._o false_a doctrine_n impose_v instead_o of_o true_a 3._o make_v and_o impose_v thing_n indifferent_a as_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n ans_fw-fr 1._o reader_n do_v you_o remember_v how_o even_o now_o he_o expose_v to_o odium_fw-la the_o people_n judge_v whether_o the_o pastor_n be_v heretic_n and_o now_o they_o may_v separate_v for_o false_a doctrine_n 2._o i_o entreat_v he_o to_o think_v again_o of_o these_o case_n follow_v 1._o what_o if_o the_o worship_n be_v not_o idolatrous_a but_o blasphemous_a or_o utter_o ridiculous_a tend_v to_o contempt_n of_o god_n 2._o what_o if_o it_o be_v in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n 3._o what_o if_o the_o church_n have_v no_o true_a minister_n i_o be_o glad_a you_o be_v not_o for_o separate_n for_o want_n of_o episcopacy_n or_o 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be_o glad_a i_o understand_v you_o §_o 12._o say_v he_o quest_n by_o what_o way_n this_o national_a consent_n be_v to_o be_v declare_v by_o the_o constitution_n of_o this_o church_n the_o arch-bishop_n bishop_n and_o presbyter_n summon_v by_o the_o king_n be_v write_v be_v to_o advise_v and_o declare_v their_o judgement_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n which_o receive_v and_o enact_v by_o parliament_n there_o be_v as_o great_a a_o national_a consent_v as_o to_o any_o law_n and_o all_o the_o bishop_n minister_n and_o people_n make_v up_o this_o national_a church_n answ_n now_o we_o be_v come_v to_o the_o bottom_n and_o 1._o our_o question_n be_v of_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o doctor_n tell_v we_o the_o administration_n make_v it_o to_o consult_v and_o advise_v and_o make_v law_n be_v act_n of_o administration_n and_o follow_v the_o constitution_n man_n must_v have_v power_n before_o they_o use_v it_o and_o must_v be_v a_o church_n before_o they_o act_n 〈◊〉_d 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