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A24306 Sober and useful reflections upon a treatise of Mr. Richard Baxter's stiled, (Sacrilegious desertion of the holy ministry rebuked, and tolerated preaching of the Gospel vindicated) with a most serious preface to the same, out of the said Mr. Baxter. ... Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. Sacrilegious desertion of the holy ministry rebuked. 1680 (1680) Wing A18; ESTC R14153 72,472 84

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