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A80164 Vindiciæ ministerii evangelici revindicatæ: or The preacher (pretendedly) sent, sent back again, to bring a better account who sent him, and learn his errand: by way of reply, to a late book (in the defence of gifted brethrens preaching) published by Mr. John Martin of Edgefield in Norfolk, Mr. Samuel Petto of Sandcroft in Suffolk, Mr. Frederick Woodale of Woodbridge in Suffolk: so far as any thing in their book pretends to answer a book published, 1651. called Vindiciæ ministerii evangelici; with a reply also to the epistle prefixed to the said book, called, The preacher sent. By John Collinges B.D. and pastor of the church in Stephens parish in Norwich. Collinges, John, 1623-1690. 1658 (1658) Wing C5348; Thomason E946_4; ESTC R207611 103,260 172

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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d this_o be_v all_o to_o which_o i_o answer_v 1._o our_o brethren_n know_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v not_o in_o scripture_n always_o signify_v either_o every_o individual_a person_n or_o thing_n under_o the_o genus_fw-la or_o species_n speak_v of_o nor_o yet_o the_o major_a part_n how_o many_o time_n in_o scripture_n be_v christ_n say_v to_o have_v die_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o all_o yet_o christ_n neither_o die_v for_o every_o individual_a man_n nor_o for_o the_o major_a part_n of_o man_n mat._n 3.5_o 6._o it_o be_v say_v that_o all_o the_o region_n round_o about_o jordan_n go_v to_o hear_v john_n and_o be_v baptise_a of_o he_o confess_v their_o sin_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yet_o i_o believe_v our_o brethren_n do_v not_o believe_v that_o every_o individual_a person_n in_o that_o region_n nor_o yet_o the_o major_a part_n do_v either_o go_v to_o hear_v 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o this_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o present_a purpose_n we_o say_v if_o it_o signify_v choose_v here_o yet_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n choose_v 2._o our_o brethren_n say_v this_o can_v not_o be_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v to_o choose_v by_o suffrage_n now_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n can_v not_o make_v suffrage_n all_o this_o be_v a_o riddle_n to_o i_o for_o if_o i_o understand_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i●_n signify_v the_o hand_n not_o the_o tongue_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v to_o stretch_v out_o not_o to_o speak_v the_o word_n no_o otherwise_o signify_v a_o choose_n by_o suffrage_n than_o the_o lift_n up_o of_o the_o hand_n do_v testify_v the_o suffrage_n but_o why_o can_v not_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n make_v suffrage_n sure_o they_o make_v two_o and_o that_o be_v the_o plural_a number_n sure_o the_o truth_n be_v the_o primary_n signification_n of_o the_o word_n be_v to_o choose_v by_o lift_v up_o of_o the_o hand_n 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non_fw-la credo_fw-la i_o return_v aut_fw-la veram_fw-la esse_fw-la credo_fw-la aut_fw-la falsam_fw-la esse_fw-la vestram_fw-la credo_fw-la definitionem_fw-la either_o they_o be_v a_o true_a church_n or_o your_o definition_n of_o a_o church_n be_v not_o true_a three_o you_o tell_v we_o a_o church_n must_v be_v a_o holy_a company_n i_o answer_v 1._o so_o be_v not_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d mention_v act_n 19.32_o 42._o but_o concern_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n we_o grant_v it_o sano_fw-la sensu_fw-la upon_o some_o of_o your_o argument_n which_o i_o think_v be_v conclusive_a enough_o 2._o we_o say_v god_n himself_o call_v the_o whole_a jewish_a nation_n holy_a exod._n 19.6_o the_o apostle_n call_v the_o seed_n of_o those_o parent_n holy_a where_o one_o of_o they_o be_v a_o believer_n 1_o cor._n 7._o in_o this_o sense_n we_o grant_v every_o member_n of_o the_o church_n must_v be_v holy_a separate_v from_o a_o paganish_a conversation_n and_o under_o a_o external_a covenant_n 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