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A45153 The question of re-ordination, whether, and how a minister ordained by the Presbytery, may take ordination also by the Bishop? by John Humfrey ... Humfrey, John, 1621-1719. 1661 (1661) Wing H3704; ESTC R8105 33,209 104

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Prophesie going before on us or some other Scripture that holds forth the promise thereof to us in the use of the said Ceremony which seeing we have not not can be pretended otherwhere there is left us the pure institution without any thing at all in it Sacramental to scare or terrifie us in this matter Similitudo solvitur says the School ostensâ dissimilitudine You may say In the Sacraments Grace is supposed and then the outward rite is the sign and seal of it When Circumcision is said to be the Seal of the Righteousness of Faith to Abraham it is said Which he had before while uncircumcised So must this Gift be supposed in the person to be ordained insomuch that it is to be tryed first and found in him and understanding it of the talent it self first given and not of the improvement This Imposition of hands is tessera minimè fallax ejus gratiae and cannot be iterated because Baptism cannot which is the argument at first or for the reason only whatsoever that is thereof Answ Let us know clearly that the bottom of the absurdity which is conceived in the iteration it self of Baptism by Schoolmen and Fathers will be found to lye in an opinion flat contrary hereunto to wit that the Sacraments confer grace and consequently initiating grace or regenerating grace which is conferr'd by Baptism being not possibly to be conferred any more then once Baptism can be but once Whereas those Divines that after Calvin taking the Sacraments only for Confirmations of our Faith do make Baptism only to sign signifie and seal the grace which we have and not confer it the absurdity is vanished from hence and must be found out elsewhere for there is no absurdity at all to testifie seal or signifie the same grace more then once The Lords Supper does signifie seal and represent the very same benefits of the Covenant sealed and signified by Baptism to the believer twenty times over Those that were circumcised and baptized in Johns and Christs dayes had the same initiatory grace sealed and signified to them twice If this Imposition then of hands be only symbolum or tessera to signifie testifie or declare such a gift or faculty in a person already received there is no absurdity to declare it and signifie it as often as there is good occasion If indeed the first talent it self or original gift adapting us for the office could be tyed to this Rite as the certain means of conferring it as they thought of Baptismal Regeneration that it was still conferred by Baptism and never without it then were there that absurdity in Re-ordination as the Schools conceive in Re-baptization But seeing 1. There is no such promise as annexes this gift to the rite 2. It were miraculous if so given 3. It is against universal experience 4. This gift it to be found in the ordained or else they are not to be admitted 5. Timothy no doubt was endowed with ability and that excellent before being trained up from a child to the Scripture 6. The grace that is obtained hereby to wit precibus Ecclesiae non virtute Signi is Gods grace with us or blessing upon our studies and work and encrease of talents if you will thereupon and no otherwise In short seeing this is disproved otherwhere and from the first reason above which is more especially of force I do perceive that that which hath troubled me as an objection will turn to advantage and serve but the fuller to lay open the nature of Ordination which is further needful The truth is with much beating hereupon I do see plainly This solemnity doth both these things It signifies this gift and impetrates a blessing When a man comes to be ordained he is to be examined This Examination if we know what it is is whether he hath this Gift which is his call from God When this is found if you will say this solemnity is a Sacrament hereof in a large sense as a visible publique sign or token attesting signifying and declaring this inward invisible Ministerial grace in the person to the Church for its proper end Mentem teneas with Austin linguam corrigas it is but the same our Divines say Ordination is the confirmation of his Call or may help us well to understand it There is then a double call A call from men and the call of God A mans call from men lyes in their choice of him for their Minister or his title to a place Whilest most have bin poring upon this outward call by men the true notion of Ordination hath been out of sight Hence Dr. Ames with others commonly Episcopalis Ordinatio Ministri sine titulo est aeque ridicula ac si quis maritus singeretur esse absque uxore But it is a specious mistake A man may be ordained I think to the work as to a place Heads and Fellows of Colledges cannot but be supposed to be ordained without absurdity There are Teachers as well as Pastors in the Church The bottom of the mis-apprehension then lyes here when these Divines have said well That Ordination is this declaration only or confirmation of a mans call they dream of this outward call only this call by men and so are out The call of God then in the next place does lye no doubt in this Gift apt to discharge the function Rom. 12.6 7. Eph. 4.7 8 11. 1 Cor. 12.4 7. Rom. 15.15 Act. 20.28 Jer. 23.21 a fitness for the Ministry when God gives a man endowments with a heart for this service This is his Call and Commission from Christ which it is his Prerogative too only to give This now is tryed by the Ordainers The rule is Lay hands on no man suddenly That meddles not I think unless occasionally with the mans title to his Living but his qualifications fitness abilities whether he hath this inward call the commission and talent from our Lord that we may own him as a fellow servant in this work When this is found What is Ordination then really as hath been before mentioned but the declaring or approving of the person accordingly as indeed so called endowed and fit or as indeed commissioned from the Master himself by this solemnity and so hath he not spiritualem potestatem his Ministerial power and office which is derived upon him immediately by vertue of Christs will declared in his Word that such as are so qualified should be Officers to him or rather least we be too nice by vertue of the full call of the Institution gift and his consent together bestowed on him by the hands of man for he is the Embassador alone of Christ and God and not of men but confirm'd to him hereby which it does 1. In recommending him to God for his grace wherein we beleive it not to be profanus ritus or inutile signum but expect accordingly his blessing both upon our studies and our work 2. In conciliating to him an authority in regard of men