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A37200 Another essay for investigation of the truth in answer to two questions concerning I. the subject of Baptism, II. the consociation of churches / by John Davenport ... Davenport, John, 1597-1670. 1663 (1663) Wing D356; ESTC W35681 67,423 96

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●f_a censure_n and_o indeed_o see_v excommunication_n be_v the_o cast_v out_o from_o communion_n how_o can_v any_o be_v formal_o excommunicate_v who_o be_v never_o in_o communion_n and_o so_o with●n_a the_o church_n now_o themselves_o deny_v such_o commun_n on_o to_o the_o adult_a person_n who_o they_o call_v mere_a member_n to_o distinguish_v they_o fro●_n member_n in_o full_a communion_n therefore_o not_o subject_a to_o judicature_n of_o the_o church_n according_a to_o the_o meaning_n of_o that_o text_n arg._n 3_o they_o be_v diego_n cip●●●_n and_o therefore_o under_o d_o scipline_n in_o ch●●sts_n school_n mat_n 28.19_o 20._o reply_n though_o all_o church-member_n be_v disciple_n infant_n foe●erall_a in_o and_o by_o their_o parent_n covenant_v for_o they_o and_o adult_v p●rsons_n personal_o by_o their_o covenant_v for_o then_o self_n and_o it_o erefore_o both_o be_v under_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n
his_o public_a worship_n and_o service_n whereof_o baptism_n be_v one_o and_o see_v god_n have_v appoint_v we_o to_o worship_v he_o both_o in_o it_o and_o in_o all_o other_o public_a duty_n and_o service_n so_o as_o we_o may_v please_v he_o therein_o it_o follow_v necessary_o that_o he_o require_v true_a visible_a faith_n in_o all_o who_o he_o privilege_v to_o baptize_v their_o infant_n which_o yet_o be_v not_o express_o require_v in_o the_o five_o proposition_n nor_o interpretative_o in_o this_o propos_fw-fr 7._o the_o member_n of_o orthodox_n church_n be_v sound_a in_o the_o faith_n and_o not_o scandalous_a in_o life_n and_o present_v due_a testimony_n thereof_o these_o occasional_o come_v from_o one_o church_n to_o another_o may_v have_v their_o child_n baptize_v in_o the_o church_n whither_o they_o come_v by_o virtue_n of_o communion_n of_o church_n but_o if_o they_o remove_v their_o habitation_n they_o ought_v orderly_o to_o covenant_n and_o to_o submit_v themselves_o to_o the_o 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