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of_o christian_a religion_n be_v long_o since_o publish_v to_o the_o world_n and_o i_o continue_v through_o the_o grace_n and_o patience_n of_o god_n preach_v in_o public_a answerable_o to_o the_o principle_n i_o do_v profess_v and_o if_o any_o man_n shall_v oppose_v what_o i_o have_v deliver_v or_o shall_v so_o deliver_v in_o print_n or_o in_o the_o pulpit_n or_o in_o divinity_n lecture_n as_o my_o judgement_n i_o shall_v consider_v his_o opposition_n and_o do_v therein_o as_o god_n shall_v guide_v with_o evil_a surmise_n charge_n upon_o hearsay_n and_o report_n attend_v with_o perpetual_a excursion_n from_o the_o argument_n in_o hand_n i_o shall_v no_o more_o contend_v some_o few_o observation_n on_o scatter_a passage_n will_v now_o speedy_o issue_v this_o discourse_n pag._n 112._o to_o that_o assertion_n of_o i_o that_o if_o rome_n be_v no_o
key_n be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n of_o believer_n the_o way_n pag._n 1._o that_o be_v a_o combination_n of_o faithful_a man_n as_o mr._n hooker_n 2._o the_o key_n of_o knowledge_n belong_v to_o all_o the_o faithful_a whether_o join_v to_o any_o particular_a church_n or_o no_o the_o key_n pag._n 11._o 2_o the_o key_n of_o knowledge_n be_v give_v not_o only_o to_o the_o church_n but_o to_o some_o before_o they_o enter_v into_o the_o church_n keyes_n pag._n 2._o ans._n this_o term_n the_o key_n of_o knowledge_n be_v take_v from_o our_o saviour_n word_n in_o luk._n 11._o 52._o where_o he_o reprove_v the_o lawyer_n who_o have_v take_v away_o the_o key_n of_o knowledge_n and_o neither_o enter_v in_o themselves_o nor_o suffer_v other_o to_o enter_v the_o word_n argue_v that_o the_o enter_n in_o be_v not_o into_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o into_o that_o the_o lawyer_n have_v enter_v and_o be_v willing_a to_o admit_v other_o he_o speak_v therefore_o of_o enter_v into_o the_o state_n 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answer_v above_o that_o such_o general_n proposition_n hold_v true_a notwithstanding_o some_o know_a particular_a exception_n it_o be_v appoint_v to_o all_o man_n once_o to_o die_v which_o be_v a_o undoubted_a truth_n though_o enoch_n and_o elias_n never_o die_v ans._n 2._o the_o child_n of_o church-member_n be_v in_o order_n to_o baptism_n but_o exclude_v from_o the_o lord_n table_n 1_o cor._n 11._o 28._o woman_n have_v some_o part_n of_o the_o key_n of_o order_n whereby_o they_o have_v power_n to_o walk_v orderly_o themselves_o and_o in_o a_o private_a way_n to_o help_v other_o to_o walk_v orderly_o also_o act._n 18._o 26._o tit._n 2._o 3_o 4_o 5._o only_o they_o have_v not_o power_n to_o admit_v member_n choose_v officer_n censure_v offender_n but_o if_o they_o have_v any_o part_n of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n the_o proposition_n be_v true_a yea_o and_o it_o be_v true_a also_o though_o they_o have_v be_v keep_v from_o all_o interest_n in_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o key_n 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offence_n they_o shall_v be_v govern_v by_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o brethren_n the_o way_n pag._n 100_o the_o church_n exercise_v several_a act_n of_o authority_n over_o the_o elder_n the_o way_n pag._n 101._o the_o people_n have_v some_o stork_n of_o power_n and_o authority_n in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 36._o they_o rule_v the_o church_n by_o appoint_v their_o own_o officer_n ibid._n pag._n 16._o ans._n 1._o the_o former_a column_n in_o all_o the_o three_o place_n speak_v of_o elder_n walk_v in_o the_o right_a administration_n of_o their_o office_n then_o in_o propriety_n of_o speech_n the_o key_n of_o authority_n and_o rule_n be_v commit_v to_o they_o 1_o tim._n 5._o 17._o and_o be_v there_o make_v the_o proper_a act_n of_o their_o office_n than_o it_o be_v that_o the_o people_n discern_v the_o will_n and_o judgement_n of_o christ_n in_o their_o judgement_n they_o do_v give_v consent_n and_o obedience_n to_o the_o will_n of_o christ_n in_o censure_n 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