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A61632 The unreasonableness of separation, or, An impartial account of the history, nature, and pleas of the present separation from the communion of the Church of England to which, several late letters are annexed, of eminent Protestant divines abroad, concerning the nature of our differences, and the way to compose them / by Edward Stillingfleet ... Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1681 (1681) Wing S5675; ESTC R4969 310,391 554

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divine_a worship_n sect._n 28._o and_o thus_o it_o be_v in_o many_o of_o the_o ceremony_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n tertia_fw-la which_o their_o divine_n assert_v to_o have_v a_o purify_n and_o cleanse_v faculty_n as_o to_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n not_o for_o justification_n of_o man_n from_o mortal_a sin_n but_o for_o other_o spiritual_a effect_n and_o take_v away_o the_o guilt_n of_o venial_a sin_n for_o say_v they_o no_o doubt_n they_o be_v effectual_a for_o the_o end_n to_o which_o the_o church_n appoint_v they_o and_o of_o this_o there_o be_v no_o dispute_n among_o catholic_n and_o withal_o they_o add_v that_o it_o be_v probable_a that_o the_o church_n have_v power_n to_o appoint_v ceremony_n in_o such_o a_o manner_n that_o they_o may_v produce_v these_o effect_n ex_fw-la opere_fw-la operato_fw-la as_o the_o sacrament_n do_v justification_n because_o christ_n have_v leave_v it_o in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n to_o apply_v his_o merit_n for_o lesser_a effect_n have_v appoint_v the_o sacrament_n himself_o for_o the_o great_a but_o bellarmin_n think_v this_o latter_a part_n disputable_a concern_v the_o opus_fw-la operatum_fw-la of_o ceremony_n but_o as_o to_o the_o former_a viz._n by_o way_n of_o impetration_n he_o say_v it_o be_v pass_v all_o doubt_n among_o catholic_n so_o as_o to_o the_o sprinkle_n of_o holy_a water_n nota._n bellarmin_n say_v it_o be_v no_o mere_a significant_a ceremony_n but_o it_o be_v effectual_a for_o the_o blot_n out_o of_o venial_a sin_n and_o he_o quote_v saint_n thomas_n and_o dom._n à_fw-fr soto_n and_o gratian_n for_o it_o who_o produce_v the_o canon_n of_o alex._n 1._o whereby_o it_o appear_v it_o be_v first_o institute_v ut_fw-la eâ_fw-la cuncti_fw-la aspersi_fw-la sanctificentur_fw-la &_o purificentur_fw-la that_o all_o that_o be_v sprinkle_v may_v be_v sanctify_v and_o purify_v by_o it_o bap._n in_o the_o prayer_n of_o consecration_n for_o the_o salt_n to_o make_v holy_a water_n one_o expression_n be_v that_o it_o 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