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A42578 Veteres vindicati, in an expostulatory letter to Mr. Sclater of Putney, upon his Consensus veterum, &c. wherein the absurdity of his method, the weakness of his reasons are shewn, his false aspersions upon the Church of England are wiped off, and her faith concerning the Eucharist proved Gee, Edward, 1657-1730. 1687 (1687) Wing G462; ESTC R22037 94,746 111

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