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performance_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n but_o if_o you_o intend_v the_o two_o i_o mention_v to_o be_v but_o one_o groundwork_n by_o their_o conjunction_n so_o that_o the_o sense_n be_v this_o the_o nature_n and_o end_n of_o ordination_n in_o general_n in_o union_n or_o together_o with_o deduction_n from_o other_o know_a principle_n of_o the_o roman_n catholic_n church_n etc._n etc._n i_o be_o well_o content_a as_o not_o be_v incline_v to_o make_v any_o man_n word_n howsoever_o put_v to_o signify_v what_o their_o speaker_n or_o writer_n mean_v not_o and_o i_o confess_v some_o of_o your_o own_o word_n persuade_v i_o they_o look_v this_o way_n i_o shall_v therefore_o consider_v they_o together_o under_o the_o next_o particular_a particular_a 10._o for_o the_o second_o you_o tell_v of_o the_o bishop_n intention_n to_o be_v knowable_a by_o way_n of_o deduction_n from_o some_o know_a principle_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n ground_v upon_o divine_a revelation_n the_o reader_n may_v mark_v 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65._o art_n 4._o nor_o have_v any_o