you_o set_v not_o up_o whole_o for_o yourselves_o that_o speak_v so_o 3._o and_o they_o will_v worship_v god_n with_o the_o sect_n of_o the_o diocesan_n prelatist_n in_o the_o parish-church_n also_o as_o far_o as_o will_v stand_v with_o the_o due_a exercise_n of_o their_o proper_a ministry_n but_o will_v not_o promise_v you_o to_o give_v over_o preach_v to_o become_v your_o constant_a auditor_n or_o disciple_n sect._n 6._o you_o understand_v neither_o the_o man_n that_o you_o talk_v of_o nor_o their_o cause_n they_o take_v not_o the_o independent_o assembly_n to_o be_v the_o tent_n of_o enemy_n they_o leave_v term_n of_o enmity_n among_o brethren_n to_o those_o that_o have_v enmity_n in_o their_o heart_n nor_o do_v they_o tame_o deliver_v up_o the_o cause_n the_o most_o nonconformable_a minister_n of_o my_o acquaintance_n who_o judgement_n i_o ever_o ask_v of_o that_o matter_n do_v seem_v to_o think_v as_o i_o myself_o do_v that_o the_o episcopal_a pretbyterians_n independent_o and_o 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that_o be_v sure_a they_o have_v no_o reason_n for_o it_o can_v instance_n in_o no_o great_a than_o the_o objection_n that_o it_o will_v seem_v a_o undervalue_a their_o liberty_n and_o ingratitude_n to_o the_o king_n 1._o we_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o be_v ungrateful_a to_o the_o king_n nor_o to_o undervalue_v our_o liberty_n 2._o but_o do_v that_o move_v the_o london_n minister_n and_o other_o to_o preach_v all_o this_o while_n before_o the_o declaration_n 3._o when_o you_o have_v prove_v that_o great_a hurt_v than_o good_a will_v follow_v our_o preach_a and_o ministry_n and_o when_o you_o have_v prove_v that_o though_o all_o the_o papist_n in_o england_n do_v use_v the_o liberty_n of_o the_o toleration_n in_o the_o declaration_n yet_o the_o nonconformist_n must_v not_o but_o silent_o leave_v our_o sufficient_a conformist_n to_o do_v all_o the_o work_n against_o ignorance_n infidelity_n popery_n and_o sensuality_n themselves_o i_o say_v when_o you_o have_v prove_v this_o well_o you_o 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