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A69095	The third part of the Defence of the Reformed Catholike against Doct. Bishops Second part of the Reformation of a Catholike, as the same was first guilefully published vnder that name, conteining only a large and most malicious preface to the reader, and an answer to M. Perkins his aduertisement to Romane Catholicks, &c. Whereunto is added an aduertisement for the time concerning the said Doct. Bishops reproofe, lately published against a little piece of the answer to his epistle to the King, with an answer to some few exceptions taken against the same, by M. T. Higgons latley become a proselyte of the Church of Rome. By R. Abbot Doctor of Diuinitie.; Defence of the Reformed Catholicke of M. W. Perkins. Part 3	Abbot, Robert, 1560-1618.	1609 (1609)	STC 50.5; ESTC S100538	452,861	494

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this_o be_v most_o fantastical_a and_o contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n and_o daily_a experience_n for_o isaac_n be_v the_o son_n of_o promise_n and_o yet_o esau_n his_o son_n be_v areprobate_a david_n father_n be_v a_o godly_a israelite_n and_o yet_o david_n affirm_v 51._o psal_n 51._o that_o he_o himself_o be_v conceive_v in_o iniquity_n and_o we_o may_v see_v whole_a country_n now_o turn_v turk_n who_o ancestor_n be_v good_a christian_n therefore_o not_o all_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v sanctify_v in_o their_o mother_n womb_n second_o how_o evil_a soever_o they_o agree_v about_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n yet_o there_o be_v a_o perfect_a consent_n among_o they_o that_o such_o relic_n of_o original_a sin_n remain_v in_o every_o man_n baptize_v and_o sanctify_a that_o it_o infect_v all_o and_o every_o work_n he_o do_v with_o deadly_a sin_n yea_o that_o which_o remain_v be_v proper_o sin_n in_o itself_o though_o it_o be_v not_o impute_v to_o the_o party_n so_o that_o 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do_v otherwise_o who_o of_o we_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v baptism_n to_o be_v god_n instrument_n for_o the_o actual_a application_n of_o that_o grace_n which_o he_o have_v intend_v towards_o we_o in_o jesus_n christ_n before_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o world_n which_o notwithstanding_o have_v his_o effect_n not_o by_o the_o very_a work_n wrought_v or_o by_o any_o virtue_n infuse_v into_o the_o water_n or_o by_o any_o power_n give_v to_o the_o very_a word_n and_o syllable_n that_o be_v pronounce_v but_o by_o the_o assist_a power_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n accompany_v the_o outward_a sacrament_n to_o give_v grace_n and_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n not_o indifferent_o or_o general_o but_o 1.5.9_o but_o rom._n 4.5_o vulgat_fw-la eph._n 1.5.9_o according_a to_o the_o purpose_n of_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n now_o of_o this_o that_o we_o say_v that_o it_o be_v the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o in_o baptism_n work_v the_o effect_n of_o grace_n he_o out_o of_o the_o abundance_n of_o his_o wit_n 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51.5_o be_v psal_n 51.5_o bear_v in_o sin_n even_o as_o we_o confess_v general_o of_o all_o that_o nascitur_fw-la that_o aug._n enchir._n ca._n 33._o cum_fw-la hac_fw-la quip_n ira_fw-la dei_fw-la omnis_fw-la homo_fw-la nascitur_fw-la we_o be_v bear_v guilty_a of_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n 2.3_o god_n eph._n 2.3_o the_o child_n of_o wrath_n and_o that_o unless_o the_o grace_n of_o christ_n do_v thencefoorth_o relieve_v we_o 3.36_o we_o john_n 3.36_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n abide_v upon_o us._n when_o therefore_o the_o apostle_n say_v that_o the_o child_n of_o believe_a parent_n be_v holy_a we_o do_v not_o thereby_o understand_v any_o inward_a endowment_n or_o gift_n of_o holiness_n but_o only_o that_o they_o be_v with_o we_o to_o be_v hold_v and_o account_v as_o belong_v unto_o god_n and_o comprehend_v within_o his_o covenant_n that_o