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the_o b._n you_o may_v upon_o my_o soul_n say_v i_o there_o be_v but_o one_o save_v faith_n and_o that_o be_v the_o roman_a b._n so_o it_o seem_v the_o b._n be_v confident_a for_o the_o faith_n profess_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n else_o he_o will_v not_o have_v take_v the_o salvation_n of_o another_o upon_o his_o soul_n and_o sure_o he_o have_v reason_n of_o his_o confidence_n for_o to_o believe_v the_o scripture_n and_o the_o creed_n to_o believe_v these_o in_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o ancient_a primitive_a church_n to_o receive_v the_o four_o great_a general_n counsel_n so_o much_o magnify_v by_o antiquity_n to_o believe_v all_o point_n of_o doctrine_n general_o receive_v as_o fundamental_a in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v a_o faith_n in_o which_o to_o live_v and_o die_v can_v but_o give_v salvation_n and_o therefore_o the_o b._n go_v upon_o a_o sure_a ground_n in_o the_o adventure_n of_o his_o soul_n upon_o that_o faith_n beside_o in_o all_o the_o point_n of_o doctrine_n that_o be_v controvert_v between_o us._n i_o will_v fain_o see_v any_o one_o point_n maintain_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n that_o can_v be_v prove_v to_o depart_v from_o the_o foundation_n you_o have_v many_o dangerous_a error_n about_o it_o in_o that_o which_o you_o call_v the_o roman_a faith_n but_o there_o i_o leave_v you_o to_o look_v to_o your_o own_o soul_n and_o they_o who_o you_o seduce_v yet_o this_o be_v true_a too_o that_o there_o be_v but_o one_o save_v faith_n but_o then_o every_o thing_n which_o you_o call_v de_fw-fr fide_fw-la of_o the_o faith_n because_o some_o council_n or_o other_o have_v define_v it_o be_v not_o such_o a_o breach_n from_o that_o one_o save_v faith_n as_o that_o he_o which_o express_o believe_v it_o not_o nay_o as_o that_o he_o which_o believe_v the_o contrary_a be_v exclude_v from_o salvation_n and_o 14._o bellarmine_n be_v force_v to_o grant_v this_o there_o be_v many_o thing_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la which_o be_v not_o absolute_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n 23._o therefore_o there_o be_v a_o latitude_n in_o faith_n especial_o in_o reference_n to_o salvation_n to_o set_v a_o bind_v to_o this_o and_o strict_o to_o define_v it_o just_o thus_o far_o you_o must_v believe_v in_o every_o particular_a or_o incur_v damnation_n be_v no_o work_n for_o my_o penne._n these_o two_o thing_n i_o be_o sure_a of_o one_o that_o your_o peremptory_a establish_n of_o so_o many_o thing_n that_o be_v remote_a deduction_n from_o the_o foundation_n have_v with_o other_o error_n lose_v the_o peace_n and_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n for_o which_o you_o will_v one_o day_n answer_v and_o the_o other_o that_o you_o be_v go_v further_o from_o the_o foundation_n of_o this_o one_o save_v faith_n than_o can_v ever_o be_v prove_v we_o have_v do_v but_o to_o conclude_v you_o tell_v we_o f._n upon_o this_o and_o the_o precedent_a conference_n the_o lady_n rest_v in_o judgement_n full_o satisfy_v as_o she_o tell_v a_o confident_a friend_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n faith_n yet_o upon_o frailty_n and_o fear_v to_o offend_v the_o king_n she_o yield_v to_o go_v to_o church_n for_o which_o she_o be_v after_o very_o sorry_a as_o some_o of_o her_o friend_n can_v testify_v b._n this_o be_v all_o personal_a and_o how_o that_o honourable_a lady_n be_v settle_v in_o conscience_n how_o in_o judgement_n i_o know_v not_o this_o i_o think_v be_v make_v clear_a enough_o that_o that_o which_o you_o say_v in_o this_o and_o the_o precedent_a conference_n can_v settle_v neither_o unless_o in_o some_o that_o be_v settle_v or_o set_v before_o as_o little_o do_v i_o know_v what_o she_o tell_v any_o friend_n of_o the_o roman_a cause_n no_o more_o whether_o it_o be_v frailty_n or_o fear_v that_o make_v she_o yield_v to_o go_v to_o church_n nor_o how_o sorry_a she_o be_v for_o it_o nor_o who_o can_v testify_v that_o sorrow_n this_o i_o be_o sure_a of_o if_o she_o repent_v and_o god_n forgive_v she_o other_o sin_n she_o will_v far_o more_o easy_o be_v able_a to_o answer_v for_o her_o come_n to_o church_n than_o she_o will_v for_o the_o leave_v of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o follow_v the_o superstition_n and_o error_n which_o the_o roman_a church_n have_v add_v in_o point_n of_o faith_n and_o worship_n of_o god_n i_o pray_v god_n give_v her_o mercy_n and_o all_o of_o you_o a_o light_n of_o his_o truth_n and_o a_o love_n to_o it_o first_o that_o you_o may_v no_o long_o be_v make_v instrument_n of_o the_o pope_n boundless_a ambition_n and_o this_o most_o unchristian_a brainsick_a device_n that_o in_o all_o controversy_n of_o the_o faith_n he_o be_v infallible_a and_o that_o by_o way_n of_o inspiration_n and_o prophecy_n in_o the_o conclusion_n which_o he_o give_v to_o due_a consideration_n of_o this_o and_o god_n mercy_n in_o christ_n i_o leave_v you_o finis_fw-la optat._n lib._n 3._o c._n parmen_fw-la aug._n c._n cresc_n lib._n 3._o ca._n 51._o isid._n d._n sum_n bon_fw-fr lib._n 3._o ca._n 53._o aug._n epist._n 48._o ad_fw-la vincent_n idem_fw-la ep._n 52._o ad_fw-la macedon_n idem_fw-la ep._n 61._o ad_fw-la dulcit_fw-la euseb._n hist._n eccles_n li._n 10._o ca._n 9_o et_fw-fr d._n vit_fw-fr const._n li._n i._n ca._n 37._o ministrorum_fw-la dei_fw-la coegit_fw-la concilium_fw-la lib._n 2._o c._n 43._o lib._n 3._o ca._n 6_o 10_o 12_o 16_o 17_o 18_o 23._o interdum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d quae_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la dei_fw-la commodum_fw-la spectabant_fw-la prescribendo_fw-la &_o ib._n ca._n 63._o &_o lib._n 4._o c._n 14._o c._n 18._o festos_fw-la dies_fw-la instituit_fw-la ca._n 22_o 23_o 27._o episcoporun_n decreta_fw-la confirmavit_fw-la theoderit_fw-la hist._n eccles_n li._n 1._o cap._n 7._o august_n d._n ciu._n dei_fw-la li._n 5._o c._n 25._o tertul._n ad_fw-la
si_fw-mi 〈◊〉_d rationi_fw-la &_o veritat_fw-la 〈◊〉_d videntur_fw-la in_fw-la precio_fw-la habete_fw-la etc._n etc._n de_fw-fr mysterijs_fw-la religionis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d martyr_n apol._n 2._o 〈◊〉_d si_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d rationis_fw-la etc._n etc._n tertull._n li_n de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d c._n 18._o rationabile_fw-la est_fw-la 〈◊〉_d deum_fw-la esse_fw-la autorem_fw-la scripturae_fw-la henr._n a_o gand._n sum._n q_o 9_o q._n 3._o 3._o hook_n lib_n 3_o §._o 8._o si_fw-mi plato_n ipse_fw-la 〈◊〉_d &_o i_o 〈◊〉_d non_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n s._n aug._n de_fw-fr vera_fw-la 〈◊〉_d c._n 3._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ratio_fw-la potest_fw-la progredi_fw-la à _fw-la 〈◊〉_d ad_fw-la invisibilia_fw-la etc._n etc._n ibid._n c._n 29._o 29._o si_fw-la vim_o spectes_fw-la deus_fw-la valentissimus_fw-la est_fw-la aristot._n de_fw-fr mundo_fw-la c._n 7._o don._n ini_fw-la &_o moderatores_fw-la omnium_fw-la cic._n 2._o de_fw-fr leg._n leg._n ipse_fw-la saturnus_n &_o 〈◊〉_d &_o jupiter_n &_o quicquid_fw-la 〈◊〉_d colitis_fw-la victi_fw-la dolore_fw-la quod_fw-la sunt_fw-la 〈◊〉_d nec_fw-la utique_fw-la in_o turpitudinem_fw-la svi_fw-la nonnullis_fw-la praesertim_fw-la vestrorum_fw-la assistentib_n '_o mean_v untur_fw-la ipsis_fw-la testib_n '_o esse_fw-la eos_fw-la daemon_n de_fw-la se_fw-la verum_fw-la confitentib_n '_o credit_n 〈◊〉_d enim_fw-la per_fw-la 〈◊〉_d verum_fw-la &_o solum_fw-la inviti_fw-la etc._n etc._n arnob._n 8._o contra_fw-la gent._n gent._n s._n matth._n 12.22_o 12.22_o s._n matth._n 16.17_o 16.17_o si_fw-mi libri_fw-la quoquo_fw-la modo_fw-la se_fw-la habent_fw-la sancti_fw-la tamen_fw-la divinarum_fw-la rerum_fw-la pleni_fw-la propè_fw-la totius_fw-la generis_fw-la humani_fw-la confession_n diffamantur_fw-la etc._n etc._n s._n aug._n de_fw-fr vtil_n cred._n c._n 7._o scriptura_fw-la summa_fw-la dispositione_n providentiae_fw-la super_fw-la omnes_fw-la omnium_fw-la gentium_fw-la literas_fw-la omne_fw-la sibi_fw-la genera_fw-la ingeniorum_fw-la humanorum_fw-la divina_fw-la excellens_fw-la authoritate_fw-la subiecit_fw-la s._n aug._n 11._o de_fw-fr civit._n dei_fw-la c._n 1._o at_o in_o omni_fw-la orb_n terrarum_fw-la in_o omni_fw-la graecia_n &_o universis_fw-la nationibus_fw-la innumeri_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o immensi_fw-la qui_fw-la relictis_fw-la patrijs_fw-la legibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n ad_fw-la obseruantiam_fw-la mosis_fw-la &_o christi_fw-la etc._n etc._n origen_n 4._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cap._n 1._o 1._o irridere_fw-la in_o catholicae_fw-la fidei_fw-la disciplina_fw-la quod_fw-la iuberétur_fw-la homines_fw-la credere_fw-la non_fw-la autem_fw-la etc._n etc._n s._n aug._n 1._o 〈◊〉_d c._n 14._o 14._o and_o therefore_o s._n aug._n 2._o de_fw-la doctr._n christ._n c._n 8._o will_v have_v man_n make_v themselves_o persect_v in_o read_v the_o letter_n of_o the_o scripture_n 〈◊〉_d before_o they_o understand_v it_o eas_fw-la notas_fw-la habeat_fw-la etsi_fw-la nondum_fw-la intellectu_fw-la tamé_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d duntaxat_fw-la no_o question_n but_o to_o make_v they_o ready_a against_o they_o understand_v it_o it_o l._n 1._o contr_n epis._n fund_z c._n 5._o ego_fw-la vero_fw-la non_fw-la crederen_fw-mi euangelio_fw-la nisi_fw-la i_o catholicae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la commoveret_fw-la autoritas_fw-la autoritas_fw-la 〈◊〉_d dial._n p._n 1._o l._n 1._o c._n 4._o 〈◊〉_d solum_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la quae_fw-la fuit_fw-la tempore_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la biel_n lect._n 22._o in_o c._n missae_fw-la a_o tempore_fw-la christi_fw-la &_o apostolorum_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o so_o do_v s._n aug._n take_v eccles_n cont_n fund_z fund_z sive_fw-la infideles_fw-la sive_fw-la in_o fide_fw-la novitij_fw-la can._n loc_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 8._o 〈◊〉_d omnino_fw-la nescienti_fw-la scripturam_fw-la stap._n relect._n cont_n 4._o q._n 1._o a._n 3._o 3._o et_fw-fr ibid._n quibus_fw-la obtemperavi_fw-la dicentibus_fw-la credit_n euangelio_fw-la therefore_o he_o speak_v of_o himself_o when_o he_o do_v not_o believe_v believe_v psal._n 119.105_o sanctarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la lumen_fw-la s._n aug._n l._n de_fw-fr vera_fw-la relig._n c._n 7._o quid_fw-la lucem_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la vanis_fw-la vmbris_fw-la etc._n etc._n s._n aug._n l._n de_fw-fr mor._n eccl._n cathol_a c._n 35._o 35._o 1._o cor._n 2.14_o 2.14_o orig._n 4._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d c._n 1._o go_v this_o way_n yet_o be_v he_o a_o great_a deal_n near_o the_o prime_a tradition_n than_o we_o be_v for_o be_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v inspire_v from_o god_n be_v say_v de_fw-fr hoc_fw-la assignabimus_fw-la ex_fw-la ipsis_fw-la divinis_fw-la scripture_n quae_fw-la nos_fw-la competenter_fw-la moverint_fw-la etc._n etc._n etc._n principaliter_fw-la tamen_fw-la etiam_fw-la &_o hic_fw-la credimus_fw-la propter_fw-la deum_fw-la non_fw-la apostolos_fw-la etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d à _fw-fr gand._n sum._n a._n 9_o q._n 3._o now_o if_o where_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o speak_v ultimata_fw-la resolutio_fw-la fidei_fw-la be_v in_o deum_n not_o in_o ipsos_fw-la per_fw-la 〈◊〉_d much_o more_o shall_v it_o be_v in_o 〈◊〉_d than_o in_o praesentem_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la and_o into_o the_o write_n of_o the_o apostle_n than_o into_o the_o word_n of_o their_o successor_n make_v up_o into_o a_o tradition_n tradition_n calu._n instit._n 1._o c._n 5._o §._o 2._o christiana_n ecclesia_fw-la prophetarum_fw-la scriptis_fw-la &_o apostolorum_fw-la praedicatione_n initio_fw-la fundata_fw-la fuit_fw-la ubicunque_fw-la reperietur_fw-la ea_fw-la doctrina_fw-la etc._n etc._n etc._n 1._o cor._n 2.14_o 2.14_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d heb._n 11._o 1._o 1._o henr._n à _fw-fr gand._n sum_fw-la a._n 10._o q._n 2._o 2._o heb._n 11.1_o 11.1_o 1._o cor._n 13.12_o 13.12_o lib._n 3_o de_fw-fr eccl._n c._n 14._o credere_fw-la 〈◊〉_d esse_fw-la divinas_fw-la scripturas_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la omninò_fw-la necessarium_fw-la ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la i_o will_v not_o break_v my_o discourse_n to_o 〈◊〉_d this_o speech_n of_o bellarmine_n it_o be_v bad_a enough_o in_o the_o best_a sense_n that_o favour_n itself_o can_v 〈◊〉_d it_o for_o if_o he_o 〈◊〉_d by_o omninò_fw-la that_o it_o be_v not_o altogether_o or_o simple_o necessary_a to_o believe_v there_o be_v divine_a scripture_n and_o a_o write_a word_n of_o god_n that_o be_v false_a that_o be_v grant_v which_o be_v among_o all_o christian_n that_o there_o be_v a_o scripture_n and_o god_n will_v 〈◊〉_d have_v give_v a_o supernatural_a unnecessary_a thing_n and_o if_o he_o mean_v by_o omninò_fw-la that_o it_o be_v not_o in_o any_o wise_a necessary_a than_o it_o be_v sensible_o false_a for_o the_o great_a upholder_n of_o tradition_n that_o ever_o be_v make_v the_o scripture_n very_o necessary_a in_o all_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o church_n so_o it_o be_v necessary_a because_o it_o be_v give_v and_o give_v because_o god_n think_v it_o necessary_a beside_o upon_o roman_a ground_n if_o i_o have_v skill_n enough_o to_o stand_v firm_a upon_o they_o this_o i_o think_v will_v follow_v that_o which_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o present_a church_n deliver_v as_o necessary_a to_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d omninò_fw-la necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o that_o there_o be_v divine_a scripture_n the_o tradition_n of_o the_o present_a church_n deliver_v as_o necessary_a to_o believe_v therefore_o to_o believe_v there_o be_v divine_a scripture_n be_v omninò_fw-la be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o word_n what_o it_o can_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n so_o bellarmine_n be_v foul_a and_o unable_a to_o stand_v upon_o his_o own_o ground_n ground_n lib._n 1._o §._o 14._o 14._o protest_v apol._n tract_n 1._o §._o 10._o n._n 3._o 3._o lib._n 2._o §._o 4._o 4._o lib._n 2._o §._o 7._o &_o lib._n 3._o §_o 8._o 8._o s._n joh._n 5._o 31._o de_fw-fr seipso_fw-la homine_fw-la loquor_fw-la nam_fw-la aliter_fw-la s._n joh._n 8.13_o 8.13_o lib._n 2._o §._o 7._o 7._o lib._n 3._o §._o 8._o 8._o nec_fw-la ijs_fw-la principaliter_fw-la credendum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d propter_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la christi_fw-la &_o dei_fw-la in_o christo._n heur_n 〈◊〉_d gand._n sum_n a._n 9_o q._n 3._o 3._o lib._n 13._o contr_n faust._n c._n 5._o probat_fw-la per_fw-la internum_fw-la argumentum_fw-la impletionem_fw-la prophetarum_fw-la scriptura_fw-la quae_fw-la fidem_fw-la svam_fw-la rebus_fw-la ipsis_fw-la probat_fw-la quae_fw-la per_fw-la temporum_fw-la successiones_fw-la haec_fw-la impleri_fw-la etc._n etc._n et_fw-la hen._n à _fw-fr gand._n sum_fw-la a._n 9_o q._n 3._o citat_fw-la s._n aug._n l._n de_fw-fr vera_fw-la relig._n in_o quo_fw-la l._n haec_fw-la quatuor_fw-la simul_fw-la posita_fw-la non_fw-la leguntur_fw-la sed_fw-la adimplent_fw-la scopum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d duplici_fw-la modo_fw-la munire_fw-la fidem_fw-la etc._n etc._n primò_fw-la divinae_fw-la legis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d tum_fw-la deinde_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la catholicae_fw-la traditione_n contr_n haer._n cap._n 1._o 1._o s._n joh._n 4._o 4._o henr._n à _fw-fr gand._n sum_fw-la a._n 10._o q._n 1._o sic_fw-la quotidie_fw-la apud_fw-la illos_fw-la qui_fw-la foris_fw-la sunt_fw-la intrat_fw-la christus_fw-la per_fw-la 〈◊〉_d i._o ecclesiam_fw-la &_o eredunt_fw-la per_fw-la istam_fw-la famam_fw-la etc._n etc._n in_o glos._n in_o s._n joh._n cap._n 4._o 4._o jbid._n plus_fw-fr vebis_fw-la chrsti_fw-la in_o scriptura_fw-la credit_n quam_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la testificanti_fw-la quia_fw-la propter_fw-la illam_fw-la iam_fw-la credit_n ecclesiae_fw-la &_o si_fw-la ipsa_fw-la quidem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d scripturae_fw-la diceret_fw-la ipsi_fw-la non_fw-la crederet_fw-la etc._n etc._n etc._n in_o sacra_fw-la scriptura_fw-la ipse_fw-la immediatè_fw-la loquor_fw-la fidelib_a '_o ibid._n ibid._n s._n joh._n 10.4_o 10.4_o quod_fw-la autem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d