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baptism_n 2._o 2._o 44._o last_o see_v that_o he_o use_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n without_o a_o precept_n because_o it_o be_v consonant_a to_o scripture_n for_o so_o say_v the_o canon_n and_o reject_v prayer_n to_o saint_n for_o want_n of_o a_o precept_n saint_n it_o be_v reason_n that_o he_o show_v we_o either_o some_o prohibition_n of_o prayer_n to_o saint_n in_o scripture_n or_o at_o least_o how_o it_o be_v repugnant_a to_o scripture_n which_o he_o shall_v never_o be_v able_a to_o do_v as_o it_o appear_v suffcient_o by_o those_o text_n of_o scripture_n that_o he_o and_o his_o fellow_n be_v wont_a to_o allege_v against_o it_o as_o for_o example_n they_o object_n that_o christ_n be_v the_o only_a mediator_n betwixt_o god_n and_o man_n that_o he_o be_v our_o advocate_n with_o his_o father_n and_o that_o he_o command_v all_o man_n that_o labour_v 11._o and_o be_v load_v to_o come_v to_o he_o promise_v to_o refresh_v they_o and_o such_o like_a place_n as_o signify_v unto_o we_o the_o bounty_n and_o mercy_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n and_o his_o facility_n and_o readiness_n to_o hear_v and_o help_v we_o all_o which_o place_n be_v understand_v as_o our_o adversary_n take_v they_o do_v no_o less_o overthrow_v our_o mutual_a prayer_n one_o for_o another_o than_o our_o prayer_n to_o saint_n whereby_o they_o may_v understand_v their_o absurdity_n 45._o for_o if_o christ_n be_v our_o only_a mediator_n saint_n and_o advocate_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o they_o take_v it_o to_o wit_n that_o we_o may_v not_o crave_v the_o prayer_n of_o saint_n without_o injury_n to_o christ_n because_o he_o be_v our_o only_a mediator_n how_o then_o do_v the_o scripture_n teach_v we_o to_o crave_v one_o another_o prayer_n be_v iâ—_n less_o injury_n to_o christ_n to_o crave_v the_o prayer_n of_o sinner_n they_o of_o angel_n and_o saint_n who_o be_v free_a from_o sin_n and_o most_o acceptable_a to_o god_n and_o again_o if_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o come_v to_o god_n by_o the_o mediation_n 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access_n or_o better_a commodity_n to_o speak_v to_o god_n or_o be_v any_o elder_a among_o the_o jew_n more_o grateful_a to_o christ_n then_o the_o faithful_a centurion_n do_v the_o saint_n better_o know_v our_o need_n or_o be_v they_o more_o compassionate_a or_o more_o merciful_a or_o yet_o more_o affectionate_a towards_o we_o than_o he_o whereby_o we_o may_v have_v more_o confidence_n in_o they_o then_o in_o he_o aught_o we_o to_o make_v more_o account_n of_o any_o favour_n of_o they_o then_o of_o christ_n promise_n i_o will_v refresh_v you_o or_o of_o his_o precept_n come_v to_o i_o but_o when_o you_o do_v so_o invocate_v saint_n you_o give_v they_o the_o place_n of_o christ_n for_o if_o you_o come_v to_o they_o you_o have_v in_o christ_n place_n those_o that_o may_v refresh_v you_o instead_o of_o he_o you_o have_v mediator_n to_o god_n who_o may_v pray_v for_o your_o sin_n such_o mediator_n as_o paul_n and_o john_n do_v not_o make_v themselves_o and_o if_o they_o have_v the_o faithful_a christian_n will_v not_o have_v suffer_v it_o 8._o if_o augustine_n in_o his_o book_n against_o parmenian_n do_v understand_v the_o matter_n aright_o 47._o thus_o far_o m._n andrew_n which_o i_o have_v lay_v down_o the_o more_o ample_o to_o the_o end_n it_o may_v appear_v how_o serious_o he_o tryfle_v in_o this_o important_a matter_n trifle_v which_o thou_o will_v evident_o see_v good_a reader_n if_o thou_o do_v but_o note_v well_o his_o discourse_n and_o what_o follow_v thereof_o if_o his_o construction_n of_o those_o place_n of_o scripture_n which_o he_o allege_v be_v true_a for_o as_o well_o may_v he_o argue_v thus_o follow_v his_o own_o ground_n and_o change_v only_o the_o word_n saint_n into_o man_n cum_fw-la another_o venite_fw-la ad_fw-la i_o dixerit_fw-la etc._n etc._n see_v that_o christ_n say_v come_v to_o i_o and_o i_o will_v refresh_v you_o by_o myself_o and_o not_o by_o my_o minister_n why_o do_v we_o not_o go_v to_o he_o direct_o without_o any_o interpreter_n but_o sue_v to_o man_n that_o they_o may_v be_v suitor_n for_o we_o do_v we_o confer_v more_o safe_o or_o sweet_o with_o any_o man_n then_o with_o our_o jesus_n have_v we_o more_o easy_a access_n or_o better_a opportunity_n to_o speak_v to_o any_o man_n then_o to_o he_o do_v man_n know_v our_o necessity_n better_a than_o he_o or_o be_v they_o more_o compassionate_a merciful_a or_o more_o affectionate_a towards_o we_o than_o he_o whereby_o we_o may_v have_v more_o confidence_n in_o they_o then_o in_o he_o aught_o we_o not_o much_o more_o to_o esteem_v christ_n promise_n to_o wit_n i_o will_v refresh_v you_o and_o his_o precept_n come_v unto_o i_o than_o any_o favour_n of_o man_n but_o you_o when_o you_o crave_v the_o prayer_n of_o man_n do_v give_v they_o the_o place_n of_o christ_n for_o if_o you_o come_v to_o they_o you_o have_v in_o christ_n place_n those_o which_o may_v refresh_v you_o instead_o of_o he_o you_o have_v mediator_n to_o god_n which_o may_v pray_v for_o your_o sin_n such_o mediator_n as_o paul_n and_o john_n do_v not_o make_v themselves_o etc._n etc._n 48._o loe_o then_o how_o substantial_o he_o have_v argue_v against_o prayer_n to_o saint_n impugn_v see_v that_o his_o argument_n if_o they_o have_v any_o force_n at_o all_o do_v as_o direct_o overthrow_v that_o which_o he_o himself_o approve_v as_o that_o which_o he_o impugn_v i_o mean_v as_o well_o our_o mutual_a prayer_n one_o for_o another_o which_o i_o be_o sure_a he_o will_v not_o disallow_v as_o either_o the_o prayer_n of_o saint_n for_o we_o or_o our_o intercession_n to_o they_o and_o be_v it_o possible_a that_o so_o great_a a_o clerk_n and_o subtle_a logician_n as_o he_o do_v not_o see_v this_o or_o that_o he_o be_v ignorant_a in_o what_o sense_n the_o scripture_n teach_v that_o our_o saviour_n be_v our_o only_a mediator_n and_o advocate_n see_v that_o the_o apostle_n have_v say_v that_o there_o be_v one_o mediator_n of_o god_n and_o man_n jesus_n christ_n add_v immediate_o qui_fw-la dedit_fw-la redemptionem_fw-la semetipsum_fw-la pro_fw-la omnibus_fw-la who_o give_v himself_o a_o redemption_n for_o all_o advocate_n as_o who_o will_v say_v he_o be_v the_o only_a mediator_n because_o he_o only_o be_v both_o god_n and_o man_n be_v that_o eternal_a priest_n and_o redeemer_n who_o by_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o himself_o upon_o the_o cross_n have_v reconcyle_v we_o to_o god_n and_o pay_v our_o ransom_n have_v himself_o no_o need_n of_o redemption_n in_o which_o sense_n also_o he_o be_v our_o singular_a advocate_n and_o patron_n 49._o and_o therefore_o john_n have_v say_v that_o we_o have_v â—â—_o a_o advocate_n with_o the_o father_n 2._o jesus_n christ_n add_v present_o &_o ipse_fw-la est_fw-la propitiatio_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o he_o be_v the_o propitiation_n for_o our_o sin_n and_o not_o only_o for_o we_o but_o also_o for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n give_v to_o understand_v that_o he_o be_v our_o advocate_n and_o pray_v for_o we_o in_o a_o very_a peculiar_a and_o singular_a manner_n for_o that_o he_o by_o himself_o alone_o and_o by_o his_o own_o merit_n procure_v all_o grace_n and_o mercy_n to_o mankind_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o his_o father_n accedens_fw-la per_fw-la semetipsum_fw-la ad_fw-la deum_fw-la 7._o come_v say_v the_o apostle_n to_o god_n by_o himself_o whereas_o all_o other_o advocate_n or_o patron_n be_v they_o angel_n saint_n or_o man_n do_v no_o otherwise_o obtain_v grace_n or_o mercy_n but_o by_o he_o and_o by_o his_o merit_n in_o which_o respect_n the_o church_n end_v her_o prayer_n to_o saint_n with_o per_fw-la christum_fw-la dominum_fw-la nostrum_fw-la by_o christ_n our_o lord_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n i_o say_v our_o saviour_n christ_n be_v true_o call_v our_o only_a mediator_n not_o only_o by_o the_o way_n of_o
he_o to_o the_o church_n as_o from_o the_o head_n to_o the_o body_n 54._o now_o than_o this_o being_n most_o evident_a how_o do_v m._n andrew_n his_o doctrine_n agree_v with_o this_o see_v he_o teach_v that_o the_o king_n be_v no_o otherwise_o over_o the_o church_n that_o be_v to_o say_v he_o have_v no_o power_n or_o authority_n over_o it_o but_o as_o a_o foster-father_n and_o a_o tutorâ—_n ut_fw-la eam_fw-la nutriat_fw-la et_fw-la defendat_fw-la that_o he_o may_v nourish_v and_o defend_v it_o which_o as_o i_o have_v say_v he_o all_o catholic_a prince_n do_v and_o pagan_a prince_n may_v do_v without_o any_o spiritual_a power_n at_o all_o so_o that_o you_o see_v m._n andrew_n deprive_v his_o majesty_n of_o all_o the_o spiritual_a authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n which_o the_o parliament_n have_v give_v he_o and_o the_o like_a he_o do_v also_o in_o other_o place_n where_o he_o overthrow_v the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a supremacy_n in_o other_o manner_n for_o whereas_o the_o cardinal_n 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in_o my_o seq_n supplement_n be_v by_o the_o express_a commandment_n of_o god_n exempt_v from_o the_o temporal_a and_o political_a state_n in_o such_o sort_n that_o the_o levite_n be_v not_o somuch_o as_o to_o be_v number_v â—_o among_o the_o people_n be_v god_n own_o portion_n 18._o part_n and_o inheritance_n and_o give_v by_o he_o for_o a_o gift_n say_v the_o 8._o scripture_n to_o aaron_n and_o his_o child_n so_o as_o the_o temporal_a magistrate_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o they_o and_o although_o it_o shall_v be_v grant_v that_o saul_n be_v head_n of_o the_o tribe_n of_o levi_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o rest_n it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o he_o be_v their_o spiritual_a head_n it_o be_v manifest_a that_o all_o the_o spiritual_a authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n resyde_v in_o the_o priest_n and_o especial_o in_o the_o high_a priest_n as_o i_o have_v prove_v at_o large_a in_o my_o 53._o supplement_n where_o i_o have_v also_o show_v 51.52_o that_o king_n saul_n have_v no_o lawful_a power_n and_o authority_n either_o spiritual_a or_o temporal_a over_o the_o person_n of_o the_o high_a priest_n as_o it_o appear_v in_o that_o his_o own_o natural_a subject_n who_o know_v the_o law_n of_o god_n refuse_v to_o obey_v he_o when_o he_o command_v they_o to_o kill_v achimelech_n the_o high_a priest_n 51._o which_o therefore_o he_o cause_v to_o be_v do_v by_o doeg_n the_o idumean_n who_o be_v a_o stranger_n and_o not_o know_v the_o law_n of_o god_n or_o contemn_v it_o and_o represent_v as_o s._n augustine_n testify_v the_o earthly_a kingdom_n and_o society_n of_o wicked_a man_n execute_v his_o tyrannical_a and_o sacrilegious_a commandment_n 56._o therefore_o whereas_o m._n andrew_n signify_v that_o our_o king_n be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o england_n as_o saul_n be_v head_n of_o the_o tribe_n of_o levi_n he_o allow_v they_o no_o authority_n at_o all_o over_o the_o church_n neither_o spiritual_a nor_o temporal_a for_o that_o as_o i_o have_v say_v the_o leviticall_a tribe_n be_v whole_o exempt_a from_o the_o temporal_a state_n and_o subject_n only_o to_o the_o high_a priest_n and_o albeit_o saul_n be_v true_o head_n of_o all_o the_o other_o tribe_n yet_o he_o be_v only_o their_o temporal_a head_n and_o have_v no_o other_o but_o temporal_a power_n over_o they_o and_o therefore_o m._n andrew_n do_v also_o by_o this_o example_n deprive_v his_o majesty_n if_o not_o of_o all_o authority_n at_o least_o of_o all_o the_o spiritual_a power_n and_o jurisdiction_n which_o our_o parliament_n have_v grant_v he_o 57_o to_o this_o may_v be_v add_v also_o his_o doctrine_n in_o his_o tortura_fw-la torti_n 151._o where_o he_o say_v facimusâ—_n we_o do_v not_o grant_v the_o power_n of_o censure_n to_o the_o prince_n whereby_o he_o take_v from_o the_o king_n all_o that_o ample_a authority_n above_o mention_v which_o be_v amnex_v to_o the_o crown_n by_o the_o statute_n aforesaid_a bishop_n to_o wit_n all_o such_o jurisdiction_n privilege_n superioritye_n and_o preeminence_n spiritual_a &_o ecclesiastical_a as_o by_o any_o spiritual_a or_o ecclesiastical_a power_n have_v heretofore_o be_v or_o may_v lawful_o be_v exercise_v or_o use_v for_o the_o visitation_n of_o ecclesiastical_a person_n &_o the_o reformation_n and_o correction_n of_o error_n heresy_n and_o abuse_n etc._n etc._n in_o which_o word_n be_v the_o word_n of_o the_o statute_n no_o man_n can_v deny_v but_o that_o all_o manner_n of_o censure_n be_v comprehendedâ—_n without_o the_o which_o heresy_n &_o abuse_n can_v never_o be_v sufficient_o correct_v &_o reform_v &_o therefore_o if_o the_o prince_n think_v good_a to_o excommunicate_v any_o obstinate_a heretic_n he_o may_v according_a to_o this_o statute_n do_v it_o as_o well_o or_o better_a than_o any_o bishop_n in_o his_o realm_n see_v that_o no_o bishop_n can_v do_v it_o otherwise_o then_o by_o the_o authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n which_o he_o have_v from_o the_o prince_n as_o i_o have_v 53._o declare_v before_o out_o of_o the_o statute_n neither_o can_v the_o prince_n give_v it_o to_o any_o other_o if_o he_o have_v it_o not_o true_o and_o proper_o in_o himself_o in_o who_o person_n the_o same_o must_v needs_o principal_o reside_v see_v that_o by_o the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o statute_n it_o be_v unite_v and_o annex_v to_o the_o imperial_a crown_n of_o england_n himfelse_n for_o what_o right_n power_n of_o jurisdiction_n soever_o be_v in_o the_o crown_n the_o same_o must_v needs_o be_v understand_v to_o be_v principal_o and_o most_o proper_o in_o the_o prince_n 58._o whereby_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o king_n of_o england_n may_v according_o to_o this_o statute_n not_o only_o give_v all_o manner_n of_o jurisdiction_n wherein_o all_o kind_n of_o censure_n be_v include_v but_o also_o exercise_v the_o same_o themselves_o if_o it_o please_v they_o as_o in_o like_a case_n they_o may_v if_o they_o think_v it_o convenient_a do_v and_o exercise_v the_o act_n of_o all_o the_o civil_a office_n in_o the_o common_a wealth_n as_o well_o as_o the_o officer_n themselves_o 61._o who_o have_v their_o power_n and_o jurisdiction_n from_o they_o as_o i_o have_v signify_v more_o at_o large_a in_o my_o supplement_n upon_o the_o like_a occasion_n minister_v by_o m._n barlow_n protestant_n and_o therefore_o m._n andrew_n deny_v the_o power_n of_o censure_n to_o the_o king_n deny_v he_o the_o royal_a prerogative_n and_o supreme_a spiritual_a authority_n wherewith_o our_o parliament_n have_v endue_v he_o whereupon_o it_o follow_v direct_o that_o he_o be_v neither_o good_a subject_n nor_o good_a english_a protestant_n for_o see_v he_o abridge_v his_o majesty_n authority_n deny_v his_o ecclesiastical_a supremacy_n in_o the_o sense_n and_o manner_n that_o our_o late_a parliament_n have_v ordain_v the_o same_o he_o can_v be_v account_v a_o good_a subject_n 59_o and_o if_o he_o say_v that_o by_o this_o argument_n i_o confess_v that_o we_o ourselves_o be_v no_o good_a subject_n because_o we_o deny_v the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a supremacy_n we_o he_o be_v to_o understand_v that_o the_o case_n betwixt_o he_o and_o we_o be_v far_o different_a for_o we_o deny_v it_o only_o of_o mere_a conscience_n because_o we_o hold_v ourselves_o bind_v to_o believe_v as_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n that_o s._n peter_n and_o his_o successor_n be_v supreme_a head_n of_o the_o church_n be_v a_o doctrine_n deduce_v from_o our_o saviour_n express_a word_n and_o commission_n give_v to_o s._n peter_n acknowledge_v by_o the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o confirm_v by_o the_o continual_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n even_o from_o s._n peter_n time_n to_o these_o our_o day_n as_o i_o have_v prove_v sufficient_o throughout_o this_o treatise_n in_o which_o respect_n we_o have_v great_a reason_n to_o say_v with_o the_o apostle_n 5._o
to_o affirm_v that_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n be_v manifest_o gather_v out_o of_o that_o council_n &_o add_v further_o that_o the_o cardinal_n authority_n be_v not_o yet_o so_o great_a in_o the_o world_n as_o to_o make_v man_n believe_v that_o the_o pope_n primacy_n be_v establish_v by_o that_o which_o they_o know_v do_v special_o overthrow_v it_o ibi_fw-la so_o say_v m._n andrew_n &_o therefore_o this_o point_n seem_v to_o i_o right_o worthy_a to_o be_v discuss_v 2._o thus_o than_o he_o say_v legate_n actione_n una_fw-la totaventilatum_fw-la etc._n etc._n ibidem_fw-la let_v a_o man_n read_v the_o matter_n debate_v in_o one_o whole_a action_n of_o the_o council_n and_o renew_v and_o confirm_v in_o another_o &_o final_o decree_v by_o a_o canon_n that_o the_o privilege_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n shall_v be_v ne_o maiora_fw-la sed_fw-la aequalia_fw-la per_fw-la omne_fw-la not_o great_a but_o equal_a in_o all_o thing_n with_o the_o privilege_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n the_o roman_a legate_n cry_v in_o vain_a against_o it_o and_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n himself_o sâ—ying_v also_o afterward_o by_o his_o letter_n in_o vain_a to_o the_o emperor_n empress_n and_o anatolius_n thus_o say_v m._n andrew_n wherein_o two_o thing_n special_o be_v to_o be_v note_v for_o the_o present_a for_o afterward_o i_o will_v add_v a_o thyrd_o one_o be_v that_o the_o council_n grant_v by_o that_o canon_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n equal_a privilege_n per_fw-la omne_fw-la in_o all_o respect_n with_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n the_o other_o that_o pope_n leo_n and_o his_o legate_n resist_v and_o contradict_v it_o in_o vain_a 3._o for_o the_o first_o whereas_o he_o say_v that_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n do_v by_o that_o canon_n give_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n deal_n ne_fw-la maiora_fw-la sed_fw-la aequalia_fw-la per_fw-la omne_fw-la privilegia_fw-la not_o great_a privilege_n but_o equal_a in_o all_o thing_n with_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n as_o though_o the_o council_n have_v exempt_v the_o church_n and_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n from_o subjection_n to_o the_o roman_a sea_n for_o par_fw-fr in_fw-la parem_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la potestatem_fw-la a_o equal_a have_v no_o authority_n or_o power_n over_o his_o equal_a true_o i_o must_v needs_o say_v that_o if_o m._n andrews_n have_v any_o care_n what_o he_o say_v or_o spark_n of_o shame_n he_o will_v not_o have_v affirm_v this_o so_o resolut_o as_o he_o have_v do_v see_v that_o the_o very_a word_n and_o text_n of_o the_o canon_n itself_o do_v evince_v the_o contrary_n in_o which_o respect_n he_o think_v good_a to_o give_v we_o only_o some_o patch_n &_o piece_n thereof_o with_o his_o corrupt_a sense_n and_o understand_v of_o it_o and_o not_o to_o lay_v down_o the_o canon_n itself_o whereof_o the_o drift_n and_o whole_a scope_n be_v no_o other_o but_o to_o give_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n the_o second_o place_n after_o rome_n before_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n antioch_n and_o jerusalem_n which_o church_n in_o former_a time_n have_v always_o have_v the_o precedence_n before_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n 28._o 4._o the_o word_n of_o the_o canon_n be_v these_o sanctorum_fw-la patrum_fw-la decreta_fw-la ubique_fw-la sequentes_fw-la etc._n etc._n follow_v every_o where_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n and_o acknowledge_v the_o canon_n of_o a_o hundred_o and_o 50._o bishop_n which_o be_v late_o read_v we_o do_v also_o decree_v and_o determine_v the_o same_o concern_v the_o privilege_n of_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n which_o be_v new_a rome_n for_o the_o father_n do_v worthy_o give_v privilege_n to_o the_o throne_n of_o old_a rome_n because_o that_o city_n do_v reign_v or_o have_v the_o empire_n and_o the_o 150._o bishop_n most_o belove_a of_o god_n be_v move_v with_o the_o same_o consideration_n give_v equal_a privilege_n to_o the_o most_o holy_a throne_n of_o new_a rome_n judge_v right_o 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be_v a_o monarchy_n and_o that_o the_o power_n thereof_o do_v extend_v itself_o to_o temporal_a thing_n in_o such_o sort_n and_o for_o such_o reason_n as_o i_o have_v touch_v in_o the_o first_o 21._o chapter_n of_o this_o adjoinder_n and_o handle_v at_o large_a in_o my_o 69._o supplement_n yet_o it_o neither_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v call_v temporal_a or_o earthly_a otherwise_o then_o as_o s._n hilary_n call_v s._n peter_n judicial_a sentence_n terrena_fw-la iudicia_fw-la when_o he_o say_v terrena_fw-la eius_fw-la iudicia_fw-la sunt_fw-la caelestia_fw-la his_o earthly_a judgement_n that_o be_v to_o say_v trinit_fw-la his_o sentence_n give_v on_o earth_n be_v heavenly_a 22._o and_o so_o i_o say_v that_o albeit_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n may_v in_o this_o sense_n be_v call_v earthly_a to_o wit_n because_o it_o be_v exercise_v upon_o earth_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o earthly_a or_o temporal_a but_o spiritual_a and_o heavenly_a both_o because_o it_o be_v a_o spiritual_a and_o 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themselves_o rather_o than_o to_o have_v recourse_n to_o the_o tribunal_n and_o judgement_n of_o infidel_n degree_n yea_o m._n andrew_n must_v acknowledge_v himself_o to_o be_v but_o a_o mere_a temporal_a yea_o a_o pecuniary_a pastor_n because_o in_o his_o spiritual_a court_n he_o use_v pecuniary_a mulct_n and_o other_o temporal_a punishment_n as_o i_o have_v show_v before_o in_o the_o first_o 21._o chapter_n by_o all_o this_o it_o appear_v that_o m._n andrews_n deny_v not_o the_o spiritual_a but_o as_o he_o term_v it_o the_o earthly_a monarchy_n and_o temporal_a primacy_n of_o peter_n deny_v nothing_o else_o but_o his_o own_o vain_a and_o idle_a manner_n of_o speech_n express_v only_o a_o foolish_a fancy_n of_o he_o and_o a_o very_a chimaera_n that_o have_v no_o be_v in_o rerum_fw-la natura_fw-la and_o so_o he_o do_v still_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o be_v therefore_o true_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v to_o say_v a_o wrangler_n in_o the_o high_a degree_n 23._o and_o to_o the_o end_n this_o may_v yet_o appear_v more_o manifest_o i_o will_v examine_v his_o answer_n &_o objection_n touch_v another_o point_n in_o controversy_n betwixt_o he_o and_o we_o whereby_o we_o shall_v also_o see_v how_o notable_o he_o wrangle_v cavil_v iuggle_v and_o tryfle_v and_o because_o the_o matter_n and_o his_o manner_n of_o answer_v will_v require_v some_o long_a discourse_n i_o will_v make_v it_o the_o subject_n of_o the_o three_o next_o chapter_n a_o further_a manifestation_n of_o master_n andrews_n his_o trifle_a wrangle_a and_o fraudulent_a humour_n by_o his_o answer_n to_o other_o place_n of_o the_o father_n concern_v prayer_n to_o saint_n which_o he_o devyde_v into_o three_o rank_n whereof_o the_o two_o first_o be_v examine_v in_o this_o chapter_n chap._n vi_o whereas_o the_o cardinal_n undertake_v in_o his_o apology_n 12._o to_o treat_v of_o prayer_n to_o saint_n because_o the_o apology_n for_o the_o oath_n condemn_v the_o use_n cavil_n and_o practice_v of_o it_o in_o the_o catholic_a church_n m._n andrew_n take_v exception_n to_o the_o cardinal_n for_o change_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n porrò_fw-la and_o say_v that_o he_o fight_v with_o his_o own_o shadow_n because_o he_o promise_v to_o treat_v the_o intercessione_n sanctorum_fw-la of_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n whereas_o that_o which_o the_o king_n condemn_v say_v m._n andrew_n be_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n wherein_o he_o also_o note_v this_o difference_n that_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n be_v their_o work_n and_o the_o invocation_n of_o they_o be_v we_o and_o that_o the_o king_n deny_v not_o that_o which_o the_o cardinal_n prove_v to_o wit_n that_o the_o saint_n do_v pray_v for_o we_o but_o that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v invocate_v or_o pray_v unto_o which_o say_v m._n andrews_n the_o cardinal_n prove_v not_o 2._o and_o he_o please_v himself_o so_o much_o with_o this_o devise_n that_o he_o do_v often_o inculcate_v the_o same_o urge_v the_o cardinal_n 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when_o they_o apply_v it_o to_o saint_n or_o holy_a relic_n as_o i_o will_v show_v ample_o hereafter_o in_o the_o 9_o chapter_n where_o i_o shall_v have_v a_o good_a occasion_n to_o justify_v the_o use_n of_o it_o in_o that_o sense_n against_o m._n andrew_n 31._o who_o will_v needs_o have_v it_o to_o signify_v nothing_o else_o but_o to_o worship_n necesse_fw-la with_o divine_a honour_n contrary_a to_o the_o manifest_a and_o frequent_a use_n of_o the_o word_n in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o i_o will_v make_v it_o most_o evident_a when_o i_o shall_v come_v to_o treat_v of_o that_o point_n 37._o in_o the_o mean_a time_n that_o which_o i_o wish_v to_o be_v observe_v concern_v the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v that_o although_o it_o do_v proper_o signify_v tangere_fw-la to_o touch_v yet_o it_o include_v many_o time_n a_o act_n of_o veneration_n or_o worship_n yea_o sometime_o of_o prayer_n budaeo_n and_o supplication_n as_o when_o plutark_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v to_o say_v supâ—licibus_fw-la manibus_fw-la orabant_fw-la as_o budaeus_fw-la expound_v it_o they_o pray_v with_o their_o hand_n hold_v up_o as_o suppliant_n also_o we_o read_v in_o homer_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d thetis_n autem_fw-la sicut_fw-la tetigit_fw-la genua_fw-la sic_fw-la inhaerebat_fw-la advoluta_fw-la where_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tetigit_fw-la genua_fw-la express_v a_o act_n of_o veneration_n and_o supplication_n â—â—_o and_o therefore_o whereas_o homer_n signify_v in_o another_o place_n the_o honour_n and_o reverence_n that_o thetis_n do_v to_o jupiter_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d accepit_fw-la genua_fw-la sinistra_fw-la eustathius_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o homer_n say_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d there_o do_v signify_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tangere_fw-la as_o if_o he_o shall_v have_v say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d thetis_n touch_v the_o knee_n of_o jupiter_n 1._o the_o like_a we_o read_v also_o in_o euripides_n who_o express_v the_o reverence_n that_o ulysses_n and_o hecuba_n do_v one_o to_o another_o touch_v each_o other_o knee_n hand_n and_o cheek_n use_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d eurip._n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d whereupon_o arsenius_n in_o his_o commentary_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v to_o say_v suppliant_n do_v use_v to_o touch_v either_o the_o knee_n or_o the_o hand_n or_o the_o cheek_n of_o those_o to_o who_o they_o be_v suitor_n so_o as_o you_o see_v that_o in_o all_o this_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d include_v and_o express_v a_o act_n of_o veneration_n 38._o and_o upon_o this_o occasion_n i_o can_v omit_v to_o speak_v of_o a_o ancient_a kind_n of_o adoration_n with_o the_o hand_n use_v among_o the_o paynim_n which_o be_v to_o stretch_v forth_o their_o hand_n towards_o the_o sun_n or_o moon_n or_o what_o else_o soever_o 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vulgum_fw-la he_o adore_v the_o people_n stretch_v forth_o his_o hand_n claudio_n and_o suetonius_n seem_v to_o signify_v the_o like_a of_o claudius_n the_o emperor_n when_o he_o say_v that_o he_o reverence_v the_o senator_n voce_fw-mi manuque_fw-la with_o his_o voice_n &_o hand_n and_o this_o i_o say_v be_v a_o kind_n of_o touch_v a_o far_o off_o or_o a_o demonstration_n of_o a_o desire_n for_o reverence_v sake_n to_o touch_v those_o person_n or_o thing_n which_o be_v out_o of_o reach_n 39_o but_o now_o to_o return_v to_o actual_a touch_v for_o reverence_n or_o devotion_n signify_v in_o latin_a author_n by_o the_o word_n tangere_fw-la 48._o as_o it_o be_v among_o the_o greek_n by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d pliny_n witness_v that_o the_o ancient_a grecian_n do_v use_v attingere_fw-la genua_fw-la vel_fw-la mentum_fw-la to_o touch_v the_o knee_n or_o chin_n of_o those_o to_o who_o they_o make_v supplication_n
and_o servius_n refer_v the_o same_o to_o the_o forehead_n say_v venerantes_fw-la deum_fw-la tangimus_fw-la frontem_fw-la we_o read_v also_o in_o virgil_n tangere_fw-la arras_n use_v for_o the_o take_n of_o a_o solemn_a oath_n by_o touch_v the_o altar_n and_o in_o another_o poet_n ouidius_fw-la tange_fw-la manu_fw-la mensam_fw-la tangunt_fw-la quo_fw-la more_fw-it precantes_fw-la touch_v the_o table_n with_o thy_o hand_n as_o man_n be_v wont_a to_o do_v when_o they_o pray_v also_o the_o paynim_n be_v accustom_v to_o touch_v the_o right_a hand_n of_o their_o god_n for_o reverence_n and_o devotion_n whereupon_o lucretius_n say_v tum_fw-la portas_fw-la propter_fw-la ahena_fw-la 1._o signa_fw-la manus_fw-la dextras_fw-la ostendunt_fw-la attenuari_fw-la saepe_fw-la salutantum_fw-la tactu_fw-la praeterque_fw-la meantum_fw-la the_o sense_n be_v that_o the_o image_n of_o the_o god_n stand_v at_o the_o gate_n have_v their_o right_a hand_n wear_v with_o the_o frequent_a touch_v of_o passenger_n and_o as_o you_o hear_v before_o in_o homer_n that_o thetis_n touch_v the_o knee_n of_o jupiter_n when_o she_o do_v he_o reverence_n medea_n so_o also_o medea_n do_v the_o like_a to_o creon_n in_o seneca_n which_o be_v express_v there_o with_o the_o word_n attingere_fw-la final_o from_o hence_o it_o be_v likely_a the_o custom_n grow_v which_o be_v ordinary_a at_o this_o day_n to_o offer_v to_o touch_v the_o knee_n or_o the_o low_a part_n of_o the_o garment_n of_o great_a personage_n to_o do_v they_o honour_n and_o reverence_n 40._o what_o marvel_n be_v it_o then_o that_o the_o use_n be_v in_o time_n past_a as_o still_o it_o be_v to_o touch_v holy_a thing_n for_o reverence_n sake_n or_o that_o s._n chrysostome_n earnest_o exhort_v the_o people_n thereto_o in_o the_o place_n whereof_o we_o now_o treat_v which_o may_v also_o be_v notable_o confirm_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n gregory_n nyssen_n in_o his_o oration_n upon_o s._n theodorus_n the_o martyr_n theod._n declare_v what_o a_o wonderful_a comfort_n it_o be_v to_o be_v admit_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o touch_v the_o martyr_n relic_n as_o i_o shall_v have_v occasion_n to_o show_v more_o at_o large_a after_o a_o while_n 115._o and_o s._n basil_n also_o say_v to_o the_o same_o purpose_n qui_fw-la contingit_fw-la ossa_fw-la martyrum_fw-la etc._n etc._n he_o which_o touch_v the_o bone_n of_o martyr_n receive_v a_o kind_n of_o sanctification_n by_o the_o grace_n that_o reside_v in_o the_o body_n julian._n so_o he_o to_o who_o i_o may_v add_v s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n testify_v that_o the_o body_n of_o martyr_n and_o saint_n sive_fw-la manibus_fw-la contrectentur_fw-la etc._n etc._n whether_o they_o be_v touch_v with_o hand_n or_o honour_v be_v able_a to_o do_v as_o much_o as_o their_o holy_a soul_n 41._o and_o hereof_o there_o have_v always_o be_v manifest_a experience_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n yea_o even_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n 13._o where_o we_o read_v that_o a_o dead_a body_n be_v reviue_v as_o soon_o as_o it_o touch_v the_o bone_n of_o the_o prophet_n elizaeus_n 8._o and_o the_o like_a recount_v s._n augustine_n of_o eucharius_n a_o priest_n a_o religious_a woman_n and_o a_o young_a maid_n who_o be_v all_o 3._o dead_a be_v restore_v to_o life_n as_o soon_o as_o their_o garment_n which_o have_v be_v lay_v upon_o the_o relic_n of_o s._n stephen_n be_v cast_v upon_o they_o also_o he_o signify_v that_o a_o blind_a woman_n recover_v her_o sight_n by_o apply_v to_o her_o eye_n certain_a flower_n which_o have_v but_o touch_v the_o say_v martyr_n relic_n marcellin_n s._n ambrose_n also_o testify_v the_o like_o concern_v the_o relyque_n of_o s._n geruasius_n and_o s._n protasius_n say_v cognovistis_fw-la imo_fw-la vidistis_fw-la etc._n etc._n you_o have_v know_v yea_o you_o have_v see_v many_o dispossess_v of_o devil_n and_o very_o many_o cure_v of_o their_o disease_n assoon_o as_o they_o touch_v the_o clothes_n of_o the_o saint_n so_o he_o who_o also_o further_o declare_v that_o man_n use_v common_o to_o cast_v their_o garment_n super_fw-la sanctissimas_fw-la reliquias_fw-la upon_o their_o most_o holy_a relic_n to_o the_o end_n they_o may_v become_v tactu_fw-la ipso_fw-la medicabilia_fw-la medicinable_a or_o able_a to_o cure_v disease_n even_o by_o touch_v they_o and_o final_o he_o say_v that_o man_n desire_v to_o touch_v though_o it_o be_v but_o the_o very_a extreme_a part_n of_o their_o relyque_n &_o qui_fw-la tetigerit_fw-la say_v he_o saluus_fw-la â—rit_fw-la and_o he_o which_o touch_v they_o shall_v be_v safe_a or_o heal_v 42._o now_o than_o all_o this_o be_v consider_v with_o the_o circumstance_n of_o the_o place_n in_o s._n chrysostome_n to_o wit_n that_o he_o not_o only_o exhort_v the_o people_n to_o touch_v the_o shrine_n of_o the_o martyr_n but_o also_o to_o embrace_v their_o relic_n which_o faith_n to_o the_o end_n they_o may_v receive_v some_o benediction_n thereby_o who_o see_v not_o that_o he_o do_v evident_o include_v a_o act_n of_o veneration_n and_o devotion_n to_o be_v do_v to_o the_o tomb_n and_o relic_n of_o the_o martyr_n by_o the_o reverend_a touch_v of_o they_o whereupon_o it_o also_o follow_v that_o he_o who_o translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tumulum_fw-la adorare_fw-la give_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o s._n chrysostome_n and_o so_o neither_o he_o nor_o the_o cardinal_n follow_v his_o translation_n have_v commit_v any_o error_n and_o therefore_o m._n andrews_n may_v do_v well_o to_o rectify_v his_o belief_n which_o be_v as_o you_o have_v hear_v that_o capsulam_fw-la tangere_fw-la be_v not_o adorare_fw-la so_o as_o withal_o he_o learn_v to_o take_v adoration_n in_o the_o sense_n that_o here_o it_o be_v mean_v and_o be_v frequent_o use_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n i_o mean_v for_o a_o religious_a worship_n 15._o or_o veneration_n inferior_a to_o divyne_a honour_n which_o i_o hope_v to_o persuade_v he_o or_o at_o least_o the_o indifferent_a reader_n in_o the_o 9_o chapter_n 7._o beside_o that_o it_o may_v please_v he_o to_o free_v the_o cardinal_n from_o the_o fraud_n which_o he_o impute_v to_o he_o for_o use_v adoremus_fw-la in_o steed_n of_o adornemus_fw-la see_v it_o be_v evident_a by_o this_o which_o i_o have_v say_v that_o adoremus_fw-la express_v the_o sense_n of_o tangamus_fw-la as_o it_o be_v use_v by_o s._n chrysostome_n in_o that_o place_n and_o therefore_o whereas_o m._n andrews_n conclude_v abesse_fw-la voci_fw-la litteram_fw-la cardinali_n fidem_fw-la that_o there_o want_v a_o letter_n in_o the_o word_n and_o fidelity_n in_o the_o cardinal_n he_o may_v now_o understand_v that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o want_n here_o but_o of_o wit_n in_o himself_o or_o at_o least_o of_o a_o sincere_a will_n to_o understand_v the_o place_n aright_o according_a to_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o author_n and_o this_o shall_v suffice_v for_o answer_v to_o his_o censure_n upon_o the_o father_n of_o the_o first_o rank_n 43._o now_o let_v we_o see_v what_o he_o say_v to_o the_o second_o rank_n of_o father_n which_o he_o grant_v to_o be_v true_o cite_v 15._o but_o not_o to_o be_v of_o sound_a credit_n the_o first_o of_o these_o be_v s._n ephrem_n out_o of_o who_o the_o cardinal_n allege_v these_o word_n precamur_fw-la be_v atissimi_fw-la martyr_n etc._n etc._n we_o beseech_v you_o most_o bless_a martyr_n proximi_fw-la that_o you_o will_v vouchsafe_v to_o pray_v unto_o our_o lord_n for_o we_o wretched_a sinner_n that_o the_o grace_n of_o christ_n may_v come_v unto_o us._n to_o this_o m._n andrew_n answer_v divers_a way_n ephrem_fw-la first_o he_o take_v exception_n against_o the_o translation_n both_o because_o the_o author_n thereof_o be_v one_o of_o we_o who_o fidelity_n and_o credit_n he_o say_v have_v be_v long_o since_o crack_v and_o also_o because_o the_o original_n which_o be_v in_o greek_a be_v say_v he_o late_o take_v out_o of_o a_o grot_n and_o therefore_o be_v fidei_fw-la crypticae_fw-la of_o obscure_a credit_n so_o it_o please_v he_o to_o make_v himself_o merry_a with_o the_o word_n crypta_fw-la for_o that_o vossius_fw-la the_o translator_n signify_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o reader_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o first_o tome_n that_o he_o have_v a_o special_a help_n for_o his_o translation_n by_o two_o very_a ancient_a manuscript_n or_o write_v copy_n of_o s._n ephrem_n work_n which_o be_v to_o be_v see_v in_o crypta_fw-la ferrata_fw-la a_o famous_a monastery_n near_o to_o rome_n call_v common_o in_o italian_a grotta_n ferrata_fw-la of_o which_o manuscript_n the_o one_o be_v write_v in_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n 531._o 44._o but_o what_o cause_n have_v m._n andrews_n to_o jest_v at_o this_o sure_o i_o be_o that_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o any_o indifferent_a man_n it_o may_v serve_v for_o no_o small_a justification_n of_o the_o translator_n that_o he_o fortify_v his_o translation_n with_o the_o authority_n of_o such_o a_o ancient_a manuscript_n write_v above_o eleven_o hundred_o year_n ago_o
augustine_n be_v these_o ad_fw-la quod_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la martyr_n etc._n etc._n at_o which_o sacrifice_n s._n augustine_n mean_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n the_o martyr_n be_v name_v in_o their_o place_n and_o order_n as_o the_o man_n of_o god_n who_o have_v overcome_v the_o world_n in_o the_o confession_n of_o he_o but_o yet_o they_o be_v not_o invocate_v by_o the_o priest_n which_o sacrifice_v thus_o far_o m._n andrews_n cite_v s._n augutine_v and_o then_o add_v non_fw-la invocantur_fw-la martyr_n etc._n etc._n augustine_n have_v these_o very_a word_n the_o martyr_n be_v not_o invocate_v by_o the_o priest_n and_o why_o less_o by_o the_o priest_n then_o by_o the_o people_n and_o that_o which_o be_v not_o lawful_a in_o sacrifice_n why_o be_v it_o lawful_a out_o of_o sacrifice_n and_o that_o which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v do_v at_o mass_n demand_n why_o may_v it_o be_v do_v at_o matin_n and_o be_v there_o any_o force_n in_o the_o sacrifice_n or_o altar_n to_o make_v that_o unlawful_a which_o be_v otherwise_o lawful_a thus_o m._n andrews_n discourse_v to_o prove_v that_o s._n augustine_n be_v not_o we_o but_o whole_o his_o in_o this_o controversy_n 54._o thereof_o let_v we_o see_v how_o well_o he_o have_v perform_v it_o and_o for_o as_o much_o as_o he_o insist_v most_o upon_o the_o word_n invocantur_fw-la because_o s._n augustine_n say_v alone_a that_o the_o martyr_n be_v not_o invocate_v by_o the_o priest_n it_o be_v special_o to_o be_v consider_v in_o what_o sense_n s._n augustine_n use_v that_o word_n in_o this_o place_n for_o see_v that_o it_o be_v apply_v sometime_o to_o god_n alone_o and_o sometime_o to_o creature_n as_o i_o have_v show_v before_o as_o well_o out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n himself_o it_o be_v evident_a seq_n that_o if_o it_o be_v use_v here_o in_o the_o former_a sense_n only_o i_o mean_v for_o a_o invocation_n of_o god_n include_v a_o divine_a honour_n it_o do_v no_o way_n constradict_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n in_o our_o sense_n signify_v only_o a_o request_n of_o their_o help_n by_o their_o prayer_n which_o as_o i_o have_v show_v m._n andrews_n himself_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v the_o proper_a signification_n of_o invocare_fw-la ibid._n it_o be_v therefore_o to_o be_v understand_v that_o s._n augustine_n in_o this_o place_n use_v it_o only_o for_o a_o invocation_n by_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v so_o proper_a to_o god_n alone_o that_o it_o can_v be_v apply_v to_o saint_n or_o any_o pure_a creature_n 55._o this_o will_v be_v most_o manifest_a declare_v if_o we_o consider_v the_o circumstance_n of_o the_o text_n and_o the_o drift_n of_o s._n augustine_n who_o meaning_n to_o show_v that_o the_o honour_n which_o we_o christian_n do_v to_o martyr_n redound_v special_o to_o god_n signify_v that_o albeit_o god_n do_v work_v great_a miracle_n by_o they_o yet_o we_o do_v not_o hold_v they_o for_o god_n neither_o buyld_v temple_n to_o they_o as_o to_o god_n nor_o erect_v altar_n to_o sacrifice_n to_o they_o sed_fw-la uni_fw-la deo_fw-la &_o martyrum_fw-la &_o nostro_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la immolamus_fw-la but_o we_o offer_v sacrifice_n to_o one_o god_n who_o be_v as_o well_o the_o god_n of_o the_o martyr_n as_o we_o at_o which_o sacrifice_n say_v he_o they_o be_v name_v as_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n non_fw-la tamen_fw-la à _fw-la sacerdote_fw-la qui_fw-la sacrificat_fw-la invocantur_fw-la yet_o they_o be_v not_o invocate_v by_o the_o priest_n which_o sacrifice_v and_o then_o to_o show_v evident_o that_o he_o include_v the_o oblation_n of_o sacrifice_n in_o the_o invocation_n whereof_o he_o speak_v he_o add_v present_o deo_fw-la quip_n non_fw-la ipsis_fw-la sacrificat_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o he_o sacrifice_v to_o god_n and_o not_o to_o they_o though_o he_o sacrifice_v in_o the_o honour_n of_o they_o sacrifice_n because_o he_o be_v god_n priest_n and_o not_o they_o thus_o say_v s._n augustine_n immediate_o after_o the_o word_n invocantur_fw-la 56._o whereby_o he_o give_v to_o understand_v that_o the_o invocation_n whereof_o he_o speak_v be_v proper_a to_o priestly_a function_n and_o therefore_o to_o be_v exhibit_v by_o the_o priest_n to_o god_n only_o whole_a priest_n he_o be_v and_o not_o to_o the_o martyr_n as_o who_o will_v say_v because_o the_o priest_n be_v god_n priest_n and_o aught_o to_o sacrifice_v to_o god_n alone_o therefore_o he_o only_o name_v the_o martyr_n in_o his_o sacrifice_n and_o do_v not_o invocate_v they_o that_o be_v to_o say_v he_o do_v not_o invocate_v they_o with_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v proper_a to_o the_o office_n or_o function_n of_o a_o priest_n andrews_n for_o otherwise_o i_o mean_v if_o s._n augustine_n do_v not_o take_v invocation_n in_o this_o place_n for_o a_o priestly_a or_o sacrificall_a action_n his_o reason_n why_o the_o priest_n do_v not_o invocate_v the_o martyr_n to_o wit_n because_o he_o be_v the_o priest_n of_o god_n and_o sacrifice_v to_o he_o alone_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n which_o no_o doubt_v m._n andrews_n see_v well_o enough_o and_o therefore_o he_o end_v his_o citation_n at_o invocantur_fw-la without_o add_v that_o which_o immediate_o follow_v and_o show_v what_o s._n augustine_n mean_v there_o by_o invocation_n 57_o now_o than_o what_o wonder_v it_o be_v that_o s._n augustine_n say_v that_o martyr_n be_v not_o to_o be_v invocate_v in_o this_o manner_n that_o be_v to_o say_v with_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v offer_v to_o god_n alone_o do_v any_o man_n doubt_n of_o it_o or_o do_v it_o any_o way_n impugn_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n by_o prayer_n how_o idle_a then_o be_v m._n andrews_n his_o question_n to_o wit_n why_o the_o priest_n may_v not_o invocate_v martyr_n as_o well_o as_o the_o people_n may_v and_o why_o not_o at_o mass_n as_o well_o as_o at_o matin_n and_o whether_o there_o be_v any_o force_n in_o the_o sacrifice_n or_o altar_n place_n to_o make_v that_o unlawful_a which_o otherwise_o be_v lawful_a whereby_o he_o seem_v to_o confound_v the_o priest_n with_o the_o people_n mass_n with_o matin_n and_o the_o altar_n with_o every_o other_o place_n suppose_v that_o whatsoever_o be_v prohibit_v to_o the_o priest_n be_v also_o forbid_a to_o the_o people_n and_o what_o can_v be_v do_v at_o mass_n be_v not_o to_o be_v do_v at_o matin_n and_o final_o that_o whatsoever_o be_v unlawful_a at_o the_o altar_n be_v lawful_a no_o where_o else_o which_o be_v most_o absurd_a see_v that_o many_o thing_n be_v lawful_a or_o unlawful_a according_a to_o the_o different_a state_n and_o quality_n of_o person_n matter_n time_n and_o place_n 58._o for_o who_o know_v not_o that_o to_o invocate_v god_n with_o sacrifice_n be_v the_o proper_a function_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o not_o of_o the_o people_n and_o that_o the_o same_o be_v do_v at_o mass_n and_o not_o at_o matin_n and_o no_o where_o else_o but_o at_o the_o altar_n yea_o and_o that_o the_o priest_n may_v high_o offend_v god_n in_o his_o sacrifice_n that_o be_v to_o say_v at_o mass_n or_o at_o the_o altar_n when_o the_o people_n offend_v no_o way_n at_o all_o and_o therefore_o to_o satisfy_v m._n andrews_n his_o three_o demand_n according_a to_o s._n augustine_n meaning_n in_o this_o place_n he_o be_v to_o understand_v that_o the_o priest_n may_v invocate_v god_n with_o sacrifice_n meaning_n and_o the_o people_n can_v that_o the_o same_o be_v to_o be_v do_v at_o mass_n and_o not_o at_o matin_n and_o that_o such_o invocation_n be_v not_o lawful_o do_v any_o where_o but_o at_o the_o altar_n and_o that_o it_o be_v so_o due_a to_o god_n alone_o that_o it_o can_v never_o be_v apply_v to_o saint_n either_o by_o people_n or_o priest_n at_o matin_n or_o mass_n at_o the_o altar_n or_o yet_o elsewhere_o and_o so_o shall_v he_o understand_v that_o the_o place_n which_o he_o allege_v make_v nothing_o against_o prayer_n to_o saint_n and_o that_o his_o vain_a demand_n have_v serve_v to_o no_o other_o purpose_n but_o to_o show_v his_o ignorance_n and_o folly_n 59_o this_o will_v yet_o further_o appear_v by_o his_o conclusion_n wherein_o he_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o expound_v the_o other_o place_n of_o s._n augustine_n which_o you_o have_v hear_v cite_v by_o the_o cardinal_n to_o wit_n iniuria_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v injury_n to_o pray_v for_o a_o martyr_n to_o who_o prayer_n we_o ought_v to_o be_v recommend_v whereto_o m._n andrews_n have_v oppose_v cardinal_n and_o vain_o urge_v this_o other_o place_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o you_o have_v hear_v answer_v in_o conclusion_n thus_o quare_fw-la apud_fw-la illum_fw-la etc._n etc._n wherefore_o that_o we_o shall_v be_v recomend_v to_o the_o prayer_n of_o martyr_n be_v not_o to_o invocate_v they_o but_o to_o wish_v to_o be_v recommend_v to_o the_o intercession_n of_o christ_n the_o head_n and_o of_o all_o his_o mystical_a body_n and_o we_o do_v
redemption_n but_o also_o by_o the_o way_n of_o prayer_n which_o do_v no_o way_n exclude_v other_o mediator_n to_o he_o for_o we_o or_o to_o god_n the_o father_n by_o his_o merit_n which_o m._n andrews_n himself_o confess_v sufficient_o see_v he_o grant_v that_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n do_v pray_v for_o we_o all_o with_o christ_n their_o head_n and_o do_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o we_o may_v crave_v the_o prayer_n one_o of_o another_o whereupon_o it_o follow_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o our_o only_a mediator_n by_o the_o way_n of_o prayer_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o he_o and_o his_o fellow_n do_v understand_v it_o 50._o and_o whereas_o he_o seek_v to_o confirm_v his_o false_a inference_n with_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n against_o parmenian_n the_o donatist_n explicate_v say_v that_o if_o paul_n and_o john_n have_v make_v themselves_o mediator_n the_o faithful_a christian_n will_v not_o have_v suffer_v it_o he_o pervert_v whole_o the_o sense_n of_o s._n augustine_n as_o he_o be_v wont_a allege_v only_o a_o little_a scrap_n of_o his_o discourse_n and_o dissemble_v all_o that_o which_o do_v full_o explicate_v his_o meaning_n and_o that_o this_o may_v appear_v thou_o shall_v understand_v good_a reader_n that_o for_o as_o much_o as_o the_o donatist_n teach_v that_o the_o grace_n of_o the_o sacrament_n depend_v of_o the_o goodness_n of_o the_o minister_n yea_o and_o do_v most_o wicked_o and_o proud_o affirm_v of_o themselves_o 8â—_n neminem_fw-la esse_fw-la inter_fw-la collegas_fw-la suos_fw-la vel_fw-la seipsos_fw-la cum_fw-la aliqua_fw-la macula_fw-la &_o vitio_fw-la that_o there_o be_v none_o among_o their_o colleague_n or_o companion_n or_o among_o themselves_o spot_v with_o any_o blot_n or_o vice_n and_o that_o parmenian_n also_o say_v of_o a_o bishop_n of_o they_o that_o he_o be_v a_o mediator_n betwixt_o god_n and_o the_o people_n mean_v a_o immaculate_a and_o unspotted_a mediator_n s._n augustine_n inveigh_v bitter_o against_o this_o their_o execrable_a presumption_n and_o pride_n &_o say_v that_o neither_o s._n john_n nor_o s._n paul_n nor_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n dare_v ever_o presume_v to_o make_v themselves_o mediator_n in_o this_o sense_n and_o therefore_o he_o say_v that_o they_o acknowledge_v themselves_o to_o be_v sinner_n and_o that_o s._n john_n do_v not_o say_v 2._o si_fw-la quis_fw-la peccaverit_fw-la mediatorem_fw-la i_o babetis_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o any_o man_n sin_n you_o have_v i_o for_o a_o mediator_n but_o advocatum_fw-la habemus_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o have_v a_o advocate_n jesus_n christ_n whereby_o s._n john_n confess_v himself_o to_o be_v a_o sinner_n &_o to_o have_v need_n of_o the_o propitiation_n and_o mediation_n of_o christ._n 51._o and_o s._n paul_n in_o like_a manner_n commend_v himself_o say_v s._n augustine_n to_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o faithful_a and_o do_v not_o make_v himself_o a_o mediator_n betwixt_o god_n and_o the_o people_n so_o as_o s._n augustine_n show_v evident_o hereby_o that_o he_o do_v not_o exclude_v the_o mediation_n of_o saint_n or_o of_o one_o man_n for_o another_o by_o way_n of_o intercession_n to_o christ_n but_o only_o in_o such_o sort_n as_o the_o same_o shall_v impugn_v christ_n mediation_n for_o all_o man_n which_o he_o also_o signify_v more_o express_o in_o the_o same_o place_n say_v homines_fw-la omnes_fw-la christiani_n etc._n etc._n all_o christian_a man_n do_v recommend_v themselves_o one_o to_o another_o prayer_n but_o he_o for_o who_o no_o man_n pray_v but_o he_o for_o all_o be_v the_o only_a and_o true_a mediator_n thus_o say_v s._n augustine_n another_o who_o affirm_v that_o christian_n crave_v the_o prayer_n one_o of_o another_o grant_v consequent_o that_o they_o may_v also_o be_v mediator_n that_o be_v to_o say_v intercessor_n one_o for_o another_o and_o therefore_o do_v not_o deny_v that_o saint_n or_o man_n may_v be_v mediator_n for_o man_n in_o any_o other_o sense_n then_o such_o as_o the_o proud_a donatist_n understand_v the_o same_o who_o do_v so_o justify_v themselves_o that_o they_o do_v evacuate_v &_o take_v away_o the_o necessity_n of_o christ_n mediation_n for_o they_o or_o for_o such_o as_o they_o recommend_v to_o god_n esteem_v themselves_o to_o be_v so_o pure_a and_o immaculate_a that_o god_n do_v hear_v they_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o own_o purity_n 52._o wherein_o also_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o albeit_o s._n augustine_n in_o all_o this_o discourse_n speak_v only_o of_o man_n while_o they_o live_v in_o this_o world_n and_o not_o of_o saint_n or_o angel_n teach_v that_o no_o man_n live_v in_o respect_n of_o his_o frailty_n and_o subjection_n to_o sin_n can_v be_v a_o mediator_n or_o advocate_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n that_o christ_n be_v to_o wit_n in_o such_o sort_n that_o he_o need_v no_o other_o mediator_n christ._n or_o advocate_n to_o pray_v for_o he_o but_o that_o he_o pray_v for_o all_o other_o nevertheless_o the_o same_o may_v also_o be_v understand_v of_o angel_n and_o saint_n for_o although_o they_o pray_v for_o all_o man_n and_o no_o man_n for_o they_o yet_o for_o as_o much_o as_o they_o obtain_v nothing_o of_o god_n but_o by_o christ_n mediation_n and_o merit_n they_o can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v such_o mediator_n or_o advocate_n as_o need_v no_o other_o mediation_n or_o help_v to_o obtain_v their_o suit_n which_o be_v only_o say_v true_o of_o christ_n who_o therefore_o be_v as_o s._n augustine_n say_v the_o true_a and_o only_a mediator_n pro_fw-la quo_fw-la nemo_fw-la interpellat_n sed_fw-la ipse_fw-la pro_fw-la omnibus_fw-la for_o who_o no_o man_n pray_v but_o he_o for_o all_o 53._o this_o then_o be_v the_o clear_a sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o s._n augustine_n i_o remit_v it_o to_o thy_o judgement_n good_a reader_n whether_o this_o contradict_v any_o way_n our_o catholic_a doctrine_n or_o make_v any_o thing_n at_o all_o for_o m._n andrew_n his_o purpose_n may_v he_o not_o then_o be_v ashamed_a to_o say_v as_o he_o do_v that_o when_o we_o crave_v the_o prayer_n to_o saint_n we_o give_v they_o the_o place_n of_o christ_n &_o that_o when_o we_o come_v to_o they_o we_o seek_v to_o be_v refresh_v by_o they_o instead_o of_o christ_n when_o nevertheless_o he_o do_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o we_o may_v crave_v the_o prayer_n of_o man_n and_o consequent_o come_v to_o christ_n by_o they_o or_o rather_o together_o with_o they_o and_o with_o their_o assistance_n for_o no_o man_n i_o think_v that_o request_n either_o man_n or_o saint_n to_o pray_v for_o he_o do_v so_o whole_o confide_v in_o their_o prayer_n that_o he_o omit_v to_o pray_v to_o christ_n rhetorik_v and_o therefore_o he_o come_v also_o himself_o immediate_o to_o christ_n as_o he_o that_o have_v a_o suit_n to_o a_o prince_n and_o do_v not_o only_o procure_v to_o be_v recommend_v to_o he_o by_o his_o favourite_n but_o also_o present_v his_o own_o petition_n unto_o he_o do_v come_v himself_o immediate_o to_o the_o prince_n though_o he_o be_v accompany_v or_o second_v by_o other_o whereby_o it_o appear_v what_o a_o deal_n of_o rhetorik_n m._n andrews_n have_v cast_v away_o to_o prove_v that_o he_o which_o pray_v to_o saint_n do_v not_o come_v to_o christ._n 54._o and_o if_o he_o will_v yet_o say_v further_o as_o some_o of_o his_o fellow_n be_v wont_a to_o do_v that_o the_o case_n be_v not_o like_a of_o saint_n and_o man_n because_o there_o be_v example_n in_o the_o scripture_n of_o crave_v the_o prayer_n of_o man_n but_o not_o of_o saint_n he_o shall_v show_v himself_o to_o be_v no_o less_o ignorant_a than_o absurb_v because_o the_o same_o can_v be_v no_o confirmation_n of_o his_o former_a argument_n take_v out_o of_o scripture_n they_o but_o a_o evident_a confutation_n of_o they_o see_v that_o it_o appear_v thereby_o that_o christ_n be_v not_o the_o only_a mediator_n or_o advocate_n in_o the_o sense_n that_o they_o take_v it_o for_o if_o he_o be_v then_o can_v we_o not_o crave_v the_o prayer_n of_o any_o but_o of_o christ_n and_o therefore_o for_o as_o much_o as_o the_o scripture_n which_o can_v be_v contrary_a to_o itself_o allow_v and_o exhort_v we_o to_o crave_v one_o another_o prayer_n 5._o it_o be_v evident_a that_o it_o do_v not_o teach_v it_o or_o mean_v that_o christ_n be_v our_o only_a mediator_n or_o advocate_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o that_o no_o other_o may_v pray_v for_o we_o but_o he_o or_o we_o crave_v the_o prayer_n of_o no_o other_o but_o of_o he_o or_o that_o we_o do_v injury_n to_o he_o when_o we_o come_v to_o he_o by_o the_o mediation_n mean_n and_o assistance_n of_o other_o for_o so_o shall_v the_o scripture_n contradict_v itself_o which_o it_o can_v do_v 55._o moreover_o by_o seek_v this_o shift_n they_o leave_v whole_o their_o former_a argument_n and_o fly_v to_o another_o ground_v upon_o as_o false_a a_o foundation_n as_o the_o former_a to_o wit_n that_o
here_o be_v that_o in_o the_o same_o chapter_n which_o he_o quote_v all_o the_o argument_n of_o luther_n calvin_n the_o magdeburgenses_n and_o the_o rest_n and_o among_o other_o even_o those_o which_o he_o object_v against_o prayer_n to_o saint_n be_v full_o answer_v and_o yet_o he_o insist_v still_o upon_o the_o same_o without_o any_o reply_n in_o the_o world_n to_o the_o cardinal_n answer_n as_o though_o these_o his_o old_a stale_a objection_n be_v new_a invention_n and_o have_v never_o be_v answer_v before_o whereas_o reason_n will_v malice_n that_o see_v he_o see_v the_o answer_n thereto_o as_o by_o this_o his_o quotation_n it_o be_v manifest_a he_o do_v he_o shall_v have_v say_v somewhat_o to_o confute_v they_o and_o if_o he_o say_v that_o he_o do_v not_o hold_v they_o worthy_a of_o a_o reply_n he_o shall_v have_v show_v the_o same_o at_o least_o in_o some_o one_o or_o 2._o of_o they_o and_o so_o no_o doubt_n he_o will_v have_v do_v if_o he_o have_v be_v able_a whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o err_v not_o of_o ignorance_n but_o of_o mere_a malice_n and_o impugn_v a_o know_a truth_n against_o his_o own_o conscience_n and_o knowledge_n 71._o well_o then_o i_o will_v conclude_v concern_v the_o 12._o father_n allege_a by_o the_o cardinal_n epilogo_fw-la and_o i_o with_o the_o word_n of_o s._n augustine_n defend_v the_o authority_n and_o faith_n of_o 11._o father_n allege_a by_o he_o against_o julian_n the_o pelagian_n who_o desire_v to_o have_v judge_n of_o his_o cause_n his_o igitur_fw-la eloquijs_fw-la say_v s._n augustine_n andrews_n &_o tanta_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la etc._n etc._n therefore_o with_o these_o testimony_n and_o so_o great_a authority_n of_o holy_a man_n either_o thou_o will_v through_o god_n mercy_n be_v cure_v which_o how_o much_o i_o desire_v he_o see_v who_o i_o beseech_v to_o work_v it_o or_o if_o which_o god_n forbid_v thou_o still_o remain_v in_o thy_o great_a folly_n for_o so_o it_o be_v though_o it_o seem_v wisdom_n to_o thou_o thou_o will_v not_o seek_v judge_n to_o the_o end_n to_o purge_v thyself_o and_o try_v thy_o cause_n but_o to_o accuse_v the_o worthy_a and_o famous_a doctor_n of_o catholic_a verity_n irenaeus_n cyprian_n reticius_n olympius_n hilary_n gregory_n ambrose_n basil_n john_n innocent_n and_o hierome_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o their_o fellow_n yea_o the_o universal_a church_n of_o christ_n wherein_o they_o have_v flourish_v with_o exceed_v great_a glory_n in_o our_o lord_n while_o they_o faithful_o minister_v the_o food_n of_o god_n to_o his_o divine_a family_n and_o therefore_o i_o will_v see_v that_o in_o respect_n of_o this_o thy_o miserable_a madness_n from_o which_o god_n deliver_v thou_o thy_o book_n be_v to_o be_v answer_v in_o such_o sort_n that_o the_o faith_n of_o these_o father_n be_v to_o be_v defend_v against_o thou_o no_o less_o than_o the_o gospel_n itself_o against_o the_o profess_a enemy_n of_o christ._n thus_o say_v s._n augustine_n to_o julian_n and_o the_o same_o say_v i_o to_o m._n andrews_n with_o like_a hearty_a desire_n of_o this_o good_a leave_v the_o application_n of_o the_o whole_a partly_o to_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o discreet_a reader_n and_o partly_o to_o himself_o according_a to_o the_o light_n and_o feel_v he_o may_v have_v thereof_o in_o his_o own_o conscience_n 72._o it_o rest_v now_o that_o i_o say_v somewhat_o brief_o to_o certain_a trifle_a objection_n which_o he_o make_v against_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n out_o of_o origen_n s._n cyril_n and_o s._n athanasius_n athanasius_n urge_v the_o cardinal_n to_o show_v somewhat_o out_o of_o they_o to_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v lawful_a and_o particular_o out_o of_o origen_n against_o celsus_n and_o s._n cyril_n against_o julian_n the_o apostata_fw-la and_o out_o of_o athanasius_n against_o the_o arian_n because_o he_o suppose_v that_o those_o father_n shall_v in_o those_o their_o treatise_n have_v teach_v that_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v lawful_a if_o they_o have_v be_v of_o that_o opinion_n and_o he_o add_v that_o the_o two_o former_a do_v flat_o deny_v that_o christian_n do_v honour_n martyr_n pari_fw-la cultu_fw-la with_o equal_a honour_n to_o that_o which_o the_o paynim_n give_v to_o their_o hero_n wherein_o true_o he_o have_v great_a reason_n and_o i_o will_v also_o add_v thereto_o that_o not_o only_a origen_n and_o s._n cyril_n but_o also_o s._n julian._n gregory_n nazianzen_n s._n 10._o augustine_n &_o 8._o theodoret_n &_o diverse_a other_o father_n deny_v the_o same_o as_o well_o as_o they_o but_o what_o be_v that_o to_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n or_o yet_o to_o the_o honour_n that_o the_o church_n do_v to_o they_o in_o their_o feast_n which_o perhaps_o m._n andrews_n covert_o impugn_v by_o this_o objection_n though_o he_o speak_v express_o of_o nothing_o else_o but_o of_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n do_v he_o not_o know_v that_o the_o hero_n be_v not_o only_o account_v god_n but_o also_o honour_v as_o god_n with_o sacrifice_n which_o honour_n the_o father_n do_v utter_o deny_v to_o be_v give_v by_o christian_n to_o martyr_n and_o saint_n though_o they_o high_o approve_v the_o honour_n that_o be_v do_v unto_o they_o in_o the_o church_n as_o to_o the_o belove_a servant_n of_o god_n 73._o and_o now_o will_v m._n andrews_n infer_v hereupon_o that_o saint_n may_v not_o be_v invocate_v i_o think_v he_o shall_v not_o be_v simple_a and_o if_o he_o say_v that_o those_o father_n shall_v at_o least_o upon_o the_o same_o occasion_n have_v teach_v that_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v lawful_a if_o they_o have_v hold_v it_o so_o to_o be_v for_o so_o indeed_o he_o seem_v to_o infer_v i_o have_v 37._o already_o answer_v he_o sufficient_o concern_v this_o absurd_a manner_n of_o argue_v ab_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la negativa_fw-la and_o therefore_o will_v only_o say_v unto_o he_o here_o that_o i_o may_v with_o much_o more_o reason_n infer_v the_o contrary_a upon_o the_o same_o ground_n himself_o to_o wit_n that_o because_o those_o father_n do_v not_o upon_o that_o occasion_n teach_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n to_o be_v unlawful_a therefore_o they_o approve_v it_o for_o reject_v the_o unlawful_a honour_n that_o the_o paynim_n say_v be_v do_v to_o martyr_n they_o have_v sufficient_a occasion_n to_o reject_v also_o the_o invocation_n of_o they_o if_o they_o have_v hold_v it_o to_o be_v unlawful_a so_o as_o you_o see_v he_o gain_v nothing_o by_o this_o objection_n out_o of_o origen_n and_o sâ—_n cyril_n but_o rather_o hurt_v his_o cause_n and_o bewray_v his_o own_o folly_n 74._o but_o now_o in_o his_o other_o objection_n out_o of_o athanasius_n he_o show_v both_o folly_n and_o fraud_n for_o whereas_o he_o urge_v the_o cardinal_n to_o bring_v some_o testimony_n for_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n out_o of_o the_o oration_n of_o s._n athanasius_n against_o the_o arian_n athanasiuâ—_n he_o pretend_v to_o find_v there_o that_o the_o same_o be_v whole_o exclude_v and_o reject_v ubi_fw-la say_v he_o christum_fw-la ideo_fw-la convincit_fw-la esse_fw-la deum_fw-la quòd_fw-la invocetur_fw-la praeter_fw-la deum_fw-la enim_fw-la à _fw-la christianis_fw-la neminem_fw-la invocari_fw-la where_o athanasius_n do_v therefore_o convince_v that_o christ_n be_v god_n because_o he_o be_v invocate_v for_o that_o christian_n do_v invocate_v none_o but_o god_n so_o he_o quote_v for_o thâ—_n same_o the_o second_o oration_n of_o s._n athanasius_n against_o the_o arian_n â—â—_z where_o true_o i_o find_v no_o such_o thing_n true_a it_o be_v that_o in_o the_o 3._o oration_n he_o prove_v substantial_o and_o ample_o that_o christ_n be_v god_n because_o he_o be_v adore_v speak_v plain_o of_o that_o kind_n of_o adoration_n which_o be_v call_v cultus_fw-la latriae_fw-la and_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o as_o it_o be_v evident_a by_o the_o place_n of_o scripture_n which_o he_o allege_v to_o prove_v it_o but_o of_o invocation_n there_o be_v not_o one_o word_n for_o aught_o i_o find_v and_o though_o there_o be_v yet_o it_o be_v as_o little_a to_o the_o purpose_n for_o that_o invocation_n be_v also_o diverse_o take_v as_o adoration_n be_v and_o be_v apply_v sometime_o to_o god_n alone_o in_o which_o sense_n it_o can_v be_v apply_v to_o creature_n and_o sometime_o to_o angel_n saint_n or_o man_n as_o i_o have_v show_v evident_o before_o in_o the_o 6._o chapter_n by_o example_n of_o holy_a scripture_n 5._o and_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n 75._o whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o be_v not_o only_o idle_a and_o impertinent_a in_o this_o objection_n fraudulent_a but_o also_o fraudulent_a change_v the_o word_n adoration_n into_o invocation_n if_o he_o do_v mistake_v the_o second_o oration_n of_o s._n athanasius_n for_o the_o three_o and_o not_o of_o purpose_n falsify_v and_o bely_v he_o in_o both_o which_o i_o remit_v to_o god_n and_o his_o conscience_n to_o judge_v of_o and_o will_v now_o with_o this_o
who_o be_v say_v in_o the_o scripture_n to_o have_v adore_v angel_n and_o man_n their_o case_n i_o say_v be_v hardâ—_n if_o there_o be_v no_o way_n to_o save_v they_o from_o idolatry_n but_o by_o a_o absurd_a catachresis_fw-la never_o dream_v of_o by_o any_o but_o by_o andrewsâ—_n for_o i_o think_v no_o man_n will_v be_v so_o absurd_a to_o imagine_v a_o catachresis_fw-la where_o there_o be_v no_o want_n of_o proper_a word_n time_n especial_o so_o often_o as_o adoration_n be_v use_v for_o the_o worship_n of_o angel_n &_o man_n not_o only_o in_o the_o father_n but_o also_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n where_o i_o â—are_v undertake_v to_o show_v it_o in_o that_o sense_n above_o 40._o time_n for_o i_o have_v take_v pain_n to_o search_v it_o which_o i_o hope_v may_v suffice_v to_o teach_v mâ—_n andrews_n that_o it_o do_v not_o signify_v divine_a honour_n only_o &_o that_o the_o ancient_a father_n &_o we_o who_o use_v it_o sometime_o in_o other_o sense_n have_v sufficient_a warrant_n for_o it_o from_o the_o scripture_n itself_o and_o final_o that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o catachresis_fw-la i_o mean_v no_o other_o abuse_n in_o all_o this_o matter_n but_o in_o m._n andrews_n his_o corrupt_a conscience_n conscience_n who_o make_v no_o scruple_n to_o abuse_v and_o delude_v his_o reader_n with_o such_o shift_n and_o device_n to_o bolster_v out_o his_o bad_a cause_n thus_o much_o for_o his_o first_o reason_n 21._o his_o second_o reason_n why_o adorare_fw-la be_v take_v figurative_o in_o that_o place_n of_o s._n hierome_n be_v thisâ—_n vbi_fw-la vero_fw-la say_v he_o supra_fw-la propriè_fw-la ei_fw-la loquendum_fw-la erat_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o when_o s._n hierome_n be_v to_o speak_v proper_o to_o wit_n to_o vigilantius_n his_o adversary_n who_o press_v he_o strict_o and_o will_v not_o suffer_v he_o to_o speak_v at_o large_a than_o he_o deny_v it_o earnest_o say_v nos_fw-la autem_fw-la non_fw-la dico_fw-la martyrum_fw-la reliquias_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o do_v not_o worship_n and_o adore_v i_o do_v not_o say_v the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n but_o neither_o the_o sun_n nor_o the_o moon_n nor_o the_o angel_n nor_o the_o cherubin_n nor_o the_o seraphim_n thus_o say_v m._n andrews_n out_o of_o s._n hierome_n end_v his_o citation_n there_o because_o that_o which_o follow_v will_v mar_v all_o his_o market_n as_o you_o shall_v see_v after_o a_o while_n and_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n he_o conclude_v thus_o what_o i_o pray_v you_o will_v the_o cardinal_n say_v here_o see_v that_o the_o old_a father_n of_o the_o church_n do_v cry_v out_o we_o do_v not_o adore_v the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n victory_n here_o the_o cardinal_n be_v hold_v so_o fast_o that_o he_o can_v slip_v away_o thus_o triumph_v m._n andrews_n before_o the_o victory_n or_o rather_o have_v lose_v the_o victory_n be_v himself_o a_o captive_n and_o have_v no_o other_o remedy_n leave_v he_o but_o to_o brag_v and_o face_n out_o the_o matter_n 22._o for_o thou_o shall_v understand_v good_a reader_n that_o s._n hierome_n here_o speak_v as_o the_o logician_n say_v ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v according_a to_o the_o sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o his_o adversary_n vigilantius_n one_o of_o m._n andrews_n his_o worthy_a progenitour_n who_o impugn_v the_o adoration_n of_o relic_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n that_o m._n andrews_n do_v progenitor_n hold_v it_o for_o no_o other_o than_o idolatry_n as_o s._n hierome_n testify_v in_o the_o same_o epistle_n to_o riparius_n which_o m._n andrews_n allege_v ais_fw-mi say_v s._n hierome_n riparium_fw-la vigilantius_n etc._n etc._n you_o say_v that_o vigilantius_n as_o we_o may_v say_v m._n andew_n open_v again_o his_o stink_a mouth_n and_o cast_v forth_o a_o most_o filthy_a savour_n against_o the_o relic_n of_o holy_a martyr_n and_o call_v we_o who_o reverence_v they_o and_o worship_v the_o bone_n of_o the_o dead_a cinerarios_fw-la &_o idololatras_fw-la worshipper_n of_o ash_n &_o idolator_n vigilantium_fw-la so_o he_o and_o in_o his_o tract_n against_o vigilantius_n himself_o he_o set_v down_o vigilantius_n his_o own_o word_n thus_o quid_fw-la nâ—cesse_n est_fw-la etc._n etc._n what_o need_n have_v thou_o not_o only_o to_o honour_v with_o so_o great_a honour_n but_o also_o to_o adore_v that_o i_o know_v not_o what_o which_o thou_o worship_v carry_v it_o in_o a_o little_a vessel_n from_o place_n to_o place_n and_o why_o do_v thou_o kiss_v and_o adore_v dust_n leap_v in_o a_o linen_n cloth_n and_o again_o a_o little_a after_o we_o see_v you_o according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o gentile_n &c._n &c._n every_o where_o kiss_n and_o adore_v i_o know_v not_o what_o little_a dust_n carry_v in_o a_o little_a ussell_n and_o leap_v in_o a_o precious_a linen_n cloth_n thus_o write_v vigilantius_n 23._o whereby_o you_o see_v how_o he_o charge_v the_o catholic_n of_o those_o day_n with_o flat_a idolatry_n for_o worship_v or_o adore_v the_o relic_n of_o saint_n take_v adoration_n for_o worship_n due_a to_o god_n alone_o in_o which_o respect_n he_o call_v the_o catholic_n idolator_n and_o therefore_o s._n hierome_n answer_v he_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n say_v that_o which_o m._n andrews_n allege_v himself_o to_o wit_n non_fw-la adoramus_fw-la reliquias_fw-la martyrum_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o do_v not_o adore_v the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n that_o be_v to_o say_v we_o do_v not_o give_v divine_a honour_n to_o the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n commit_v idolatry_n as_o vigilantius_n charge_v we_o ibidem_fw-la but_o honoramus_fw-la say_v he_o present_o afterward_o reliquias_fw-la martyrum_fw-la ut_fw-la eum_fw-la cvius_fw-la sunt_fw-la martyris_fw-la adoremus_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o honour_v the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n that_o we_o may_v adore_v or_o yield_v divine_a honour_n to_o he_o who_o martyr_n they_o be_v god_n honoramus_fw-la serous_a etc._n etc._n we_o honour_v the_o servant_n to_o the_o end_n that_o their_o honour_n may_v redound_v to_o the_o honour_n of_o their_o lord_n who_o say_v he_o which_o receive_v you_o receive_v i_o thus_o say_v s._n hierome_n which_o m._n andrews_n think_v good_a to_o dissemble_v as_o if_o he_o have_v not_o seem_v it_o for_o that_o it_o full_o explicate_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o s._n hierome_n &_o vigilantius_n as_o also_o betwixt_o m._n andrews_n &_o we_o &_o clear_v all_o the_o matter_n for_o who_o see_v not_o here_o that_o albeit_o s._n hierome_n deny_v the_o adoration_n of_o relic_n in_o the_o sense_n that_o vigilantius_n obict_v it_o as_o we_o also_o do_v to_o wit_n as_o signify_v a_o divine_a honour_n yet_o he_o approve_v and_o teach_v it_o in_o the_o sense_n of_o catholic_n that_o be_v as_o adoration_n signify_v a_o veneration_n and_o worship_n do_v to_o saint_n for_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n who_o be_v honour_v &_o glorify_v thereby_o 24._o to_o which_o purpose_n two_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v note_v in_o this_o matter_n the_o one_o that_o whereas_o vigilantius_n charge_v the_o catholic_n to_o adore_v and_o kiss_v every_o where_o the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n he_o show_v sufficient_o that_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v at_o that_o time_n to_o do_v corporal_a reverence_n thereto_o not_o only_o by_o kiss_v they_o but_o also_o by_o incline_v or_o bow_v down_o the_o body_n which_o the_o word_n adoration_n signify_v and_o s._n hierome_n deny_v not_o though_o he_o deny_v the_o inference_n of_o idolatry_n that_o vigilantius_n make_v thereon_o 25._o the_o other_o be_v that_o as_o vigilantius_n do_v not_o herein_o reprove_v the_o particular_a custom_n of_o some_o particular_a man_n but_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n at_o that_o time_n so_o also_o s._n hierome_n do_v not_o impugn_v he_o only_o with_o private_a reason_n and_o argument_n of_o his_o own_o but_o also_o with_o public_a example_n as_o of_o the_o public_a translation_n of_o the_o holy_a relic_n of_o s._n andrew_n s._n luke_n and_o s._n timothy_n to_o constantinople_n by_o constantin_n the_o emperor_n suprâ—â—_n apud_fw-la quas_fw-la say_v he_o daemon_n rugiunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n at_o which_o relic_n devil_n do_v roar_v and_o the_o inhabitor_n and_o prossessor_n of_o vigilantius_n do_v confess_v that_o they_o feel_v their_o presence_n so_o he_o and_o then_o produce_v also_o another_o example_n that_o have_v pass_v not_o long_o before_o of_o a_o most_o solemn_a translation_n of_o the_o relic_n of_o samuel_n the_o prophet_n from_o judaea_n to_o chalcedon_n in_o thracia_n which_o be_v sumptuous_o and_o triumphant_o carry_v by_o bishop_n in_o a_o golden_a vessel_n and_o meet_v receive_v and_o accompany_v by_o the_o people_n of_o all_o the_o church_n by_o the_o way_n in_o so_o much_o that_o there_o be_v say_v s._n hierome_n continual_a swarm_n of_o people_n even_o from_o palestina_n to_o chalcedon_n sound_v forth_o the_o praise_n of_o christ_n with_o one_o voice_n all_o a_o long_a as_o they_o go_v hierome_n whereupon_o he_o ask_v vigilantius_n whether_o
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