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A39282 Vindiciæ catholicæ, or, The rights of particular churches rescued and asserted against that meer (but dangerous) notion of one catholick, visible, governing church ... wherein by Scripture, reason, antiquity, and later writers, first, the novelty, peril, scandal, and untruth of this tenet are cleerly demonstrated, secondly, all the arguments for it, produced by the Rev. Apollonius, M. Hudson, M. Noyes, the London ministers, and others, are examined and dissolved ... / by John Ellis, Jun. Ellis, John, 1606?-1681. 1647 (1647) Wing E593; ESTC R18753 75,919 94

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sense_n our_o opinion_n will_v admit_v of_o the_o power_n of_o a_o general_a council_n but_o i_o can_v own_v it_o because_o it_o be_v partly_o groundless_a in_o scripture_n partly_o impossible_a and_o partly_o dangerous_a in_o the_o thing_n itself_o as_o have_v be_v observe_v above_o 3._o not_o all_o act_n together_o nor_o all_o act_n that_o in_o some_o sense_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v act_n of_o power_n do_v imply_v a_o oneness_n of_o corporation_n or_o jurisdiction_n proper_o so_o call_v i_o have_v show_v before_o that_o a_o college_n of_o physician_n may_v meet_v to_o consult_v and_o give_v advice_n in_o point_n of_o health_n which_o they_o have_v power_n by_o their_o profession_n and_o by_o the_o law_n to_o do_v and_o the_o patient_n be_v oblige_v by_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n prudence_n and_o conscience_n unless_o there_o appear_v a_o sufficient_a impediment_n but_o this_o neither_o argue_v that_o all_o these_o physician_n be_v of_o one_o college_n yea_o or_o kingdom_n nor_o that_o they_o have_v power_n to_o constrain_v the_o patient_n to_o obey_v calvin_n in_o the_o very_a chapter_n quote_v by_o this_o author_n he_o lay_v down_o ground_n for_o the_o overthrow_n of_o this_o opinion_n 9_o as_o where_o he_o teach_v that_o as_o the_o writing_n of_o man_n though_o godly_a so_o neither_o the_o authority_n either_o of_o particular_a church_n or_o of_o the_o whole_a church_n in_o general_n be_v such_o as_o be_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o they_o may_v not_o establish_v any_o new_a article_n of_o faith_n 11._o etc._n etc._n and_o also_o answer_v divers_a of_o the_o argument_n of_o this_o author_n and_o the_o other_o by_o affirm_v that_o the_o promise_n of_o not_o leave_v the_o church_n of_o guide_v it_o in_o all_o truth_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o we_o may_v add_v all_o the_o other_o almost_o before_o mention_v be_v make_v no_o less_o