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reviver_n of_o this_o rubric_n change_v here_o the_o word_n of_o the_o former_a no_o adoration_n ought_v to_o be_v do_v to_o the_o real_a and_o essential_a into_o no_o adoration_n ought_v to_o be_v do_v to_o the_o corporal_a presence_n 1._o yet_o methinks_v here_o also_o first_o they_o shall_v have_v more_o clear_o express_v this_o to_o prevent_v such_o a_o misapprehension_n 2._o adoration_n be_v grant_v due_a in_o one_o way_n as_o not_o due_a in_o another_o §_o 54_o and_o christ_n natural_a body_n be_v grant_v present_a one_o way_n as_o not_o present_a in_o another_o methinks_v the_o former_a shall_v have_v be_v express_v as_o much_o or_o more_o than_o the_o latter_a and_o the_o whole_a frame_n of_o the_o declaration_n have_v be_v change_v thus_o according_a to_o the_o true_a meaning_n of_o those_o who_o receive_v it_o viz._n that_o adoration_n be_v intend_v and_o ought_v to_o be_v do_v though_o not_o to_o the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n there_o bodily_a receive_v because_o the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n remain_v still_o in_o their_o very_a natural_a substance_n and_o therefore_o may_v not_o be_v adore_v yet_o aught_o to_o be_v do_v to_o the_o real_a and_o essential_a presence_n of_o christ_n natural_a flesh_n and_o blood_n because_o the_o natural_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n be_v not_o only_o in_o heaven_n but_o also_o true_o in_o the_o eucharist_n it_o be_v not_o against_o the_o truth_n of_o christ_n natural_a body_n if_o not_o after_o a_o natural_a manner_n yet_o in_o its_o true_a reality_n and_o essence_n after_o some_o other_o manner_n effect_v supernatural_o by_o divine_a power_n to_o be_v at_o one_o time_n in_o more_o place_n than_o one_o §_o 55_o last_o in_o opposition_n to_o the_o protestant_a testimony_n here_o produce_v perhaps_o some_o other_o may_v be_v collect_v out_o of_o the_o same_o author_n that_o seem_v to_o qualify_v these_o here_o set_v down_o and_o better_a to_o suit_n with_o the_o expression_n of_o this_o declaration_n but_o neither_o will_v this_o afford_v any_o relief_n for_o to_o free_v they_o from_o a_o real_a contradiction_n the_o sense_n of_o the_o other_o reduce_v to_o those_o here_o cite_v with_o leave_v all_o thing_n in_o the_o same_o state_n or_o else_o the_o sense_n of_o these_o accommodate_v to_o other_o will_v appear_v to_o abett_v no_o more_o than_o bare_a zuinglianism_n i._n e._n a_o absolute_a non-presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o eucharist_n save_v only_o in_o its_o virtue_n and_o effect_n and_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o spirit_n etc._n etc._n and_o to_o oppose_v and_o destroy_v the_o general_a tradition_n and_o doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n finis_fw-la the_o catholic_n defence_n for_o their_o adoration_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o lord_n as_o believe_v real_o and_o substantial_o present_a in_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n at_o oxford_n print_v anno_fw-la 1687._o thesis_n of_o adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n content_n 1._o protestant-concessions_a §_o 1._o 2._o catholick-assertion_n §_o 1._o presupposition_n §_o 1._o 1._o of_o a_o precept_n of_o give_v divine_a worship_n to_o our_o lord._n §_o 1._o 2._o of_o our_o lord_n whole_a person_n its_o be_v where_o his_o body_n be_v §_o 2._o 3._o of_o this_o divine_a person_n be_v supreme_o adorable_a wherever_o his_o body_n be_v grant_v by_o protestant_n §_o 3._o not_o only_o in_o virtue_n but_o substance_n §_o 5._o 4._o that_o this_o presence_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n and_o blood_n be_v by_o protestant_n affirm_v in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o that_o this_o body_n be_v then_o to_o be_v worship_v with_o supreme_a adoration_n §_o 5._o 5._o further_o affirm_v that_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n be_v present_v not_o only_o to_o the_o worthy_a communicant_a but_o to_o the_o symbol_n and_o whilst_o present_a be_v to_o be_v adore_v §_o 7._o 6._o grant_v by_o daille_n that_o though_o he_o and_o he_o believe_v not_o christ_n body_n present_a in_o the_o sign_n yet_o they_o for_o this_o break_v not_o communion_n with_o those_o that_o hold_v it_o §_o 8._o catholic_n assertion_n 1._o a_o sign_n or_o symbol_n to_o remain_v after_o consecoration_n distinct_a from_o the_o thing_n signify_v §_o 9_o this_o external_a sign_n to_o be_v all_o that_o which_o be_v perceptible_a by_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n though_o not_o their_o substance_n §_o 10._o 2._o the_o word_n sacrament_n to_o be_v take_v not_o always_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n but_o sometime_o for_o the_o sign_n or_o symbol_n sometime_o for_o the_o thing_n signify_v §_o 11._o 3._o catholic_n grind_v adoration_n not_o on_o transubstantiation_n which_o as_o also_o consubstantiantion_n involve_v it_o but_o on_o real_a presence_n with_o the_o symbol_n maintain_v adoration_n due_a though_o christ_n body_n be_v present_a neither_o under_o the_o accident_n of_o bread_n as_o catholic_n say_v nor_o under_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n as_o lutheran_n say_v but_o after_o some_o other_o unknown_a manner_n distinct_a from_o both_o §_o §_o â—7_n 4._o suppose_v not_o grant_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d bstantiation_n a_o error_n yet_o if_o corporal_n or_o real_a presâ—â—â—_n 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o lutheran_n be_v true_a catholic_n plead_v their_o adoration_n warrantable_a §_o 18._o 5._o suppose_v real_a presence_n a_o error_n and_o the_o lutheran_n and_o roman_a church_n both_o mistake_v yet_o these_o latter_a in_o such_o adoration_n as_o excusable_a from_o idolatry_n as_o the_o other_o §_o 19_o 6._o suppose_v both_o the_o former_a opinion_n error_n and_o indeed_o no_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n with_o the_o symbol_n at_o all_o yet_o such_o adoration_n by_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o of_o christ_n who_o be_v a_o true_a object_n of_o supreme_a adoration_n and_o only_o mistake_v by_o they_o to_o be_v where_o he_o be_v not_o can_v be_v term_v such_o idolatry_n as_o be_v the_o profess_a worship_v of_o a_o object_n not_o at_o all_o adorable_a §_o 21._o 7._o whatever_o idolatry_n it_o be_v call_v in_o a_o manichean_a worship_v christ_n in_o the_o sun_n or_o in_o a_o israelite_n worship_v god_n in_o the_o calf_n at_o dan_n and_o bethel_n because_o adore_v a_o fancy_n of_o their_o own_o and_o a_o good_a intention_n ground_v on_o a_o culpable_a ignorance_n excuse_v none_o from_o idolatry_n yet_o since_o daille_n and_o perhaps_o other_o allow_v a_o reasonable_a though_o mistake_v ground_n of_o adoration_n sufficient_a for_o avoid_v the_o just_a imputation_n of_o idolatry_n hence_o if_o catholic_n can_v produce_v a_o rational_a ground_n of_o their_o apprehend_v christ_n present_a in_o the_o eucharist_n though_o possible_o mistake_v in_o it_o they_o be_v to_o be_v excuse_v from_o idolatry_n on_o the_o same_o term_n §_o 22._o catholic_n ground_n for_o their_o belief_n 1._o divine_a revelation_n §_o 24._o 2._o the_o declaration_n thereof_o by_o the_o supreme_a church-authority_n in_o council_n §_o 25._o 3._o the_o testimony_n of_o primitive_a time_n §_o 26._o 4._o the_o universal_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o late_a both_o eastern_a and_o western_a church_n §_o 27._o 5._o protestant_n concession_n §_o 28._o 8._o for_o these_o ground_n give_v by_o catholic_n idolatry_n by_o many_o protestant_n of_o late_a but_o faint_o charge_v upon_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n §_o 30._o 9_o catholic_n grant_v that_o to_o adore_v what_o be_v believe_v to_o be_v bread_n or_o perform_v the_o external_a sign_n of_o adoration_n to_o our_o lord_n as_o present_v there_o where_o the_o worshipper_n believe_v he_o be_v not_o be_v unlawful_a to_o be_v do_v by_o any_o whilst_o so_o persuade_v §_o 33._o catholic_n thesis_n concern_v the_o adoration_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n in_o the_o eucharist_n §_o 1_o concern_v the_o adoration_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n and_o so_o of_o his_o divine_a person_n as_o present_v in_o the_o eucharist_n 1._o i_o shall_v show_v what_o in_o reason_n be_v or_o must_v be_v concede_v by_o protestant_n 2._o examine_v what_o catholic_n maintain_v 1._o i_o suppose_v a_o general_a precept_n of_o give_v supreme_a and_o divine_a adoration_n to_o our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n jesus_n christ_n and_o supposition_n supposition_n that_o as_o affirmative_a precept_n such_o as_o this_o be_v do_v not_o oblige_v to_o every_o time_n and_o place_n so_o if_o they_o be_v unlimited_a and_o general_a they_o warrant_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o our_o practice_n of_o they_o in_o any_o time_n or_o place_n nor_o be_v there_o any_o need_n of_o any_o particular_a divine_a command_n in_o respect_n of_o these_o i._o e._n place_n and_o time_n without_o which_o command_n we_o may_v not_o obey_v they_o for_n what_o absurdity_n will_v follow_v hence_o for_o be_v our_o saviour_n when_o on_o earth_n never_o lawful_o worship_v but_o in_o place_n or_o time_n first_o command_v nor_o then_o when_o he_o show_v and_o present_v himself_o to_o they_o for_o some_o other_o purpose_n
non_fw-la potest_fw-la see_v also_o the_o gallican_n confession_n produce_v by_o this_o bishop_n p._n 23._o where_o they_o say_v christus_fw-la in_o coelis_fw-la mansurus_fw-la donec_fw-la veniat_fw-la and_o yet_o nutriens_fw-la &_o vivificaâ—s_fw-la nos_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la svi_fw-la substantia_fw-la i._n e._n in_o the_o sacrament_n that_o hoc_fw-la mysterium_fw-la nostrâ—e_fw-la cum_fw-la christo_fw-la coalitionis_fw-la tam_fw-la sublime_a est_fw-la ut_fw-la omnes_fw-la nostros_fw-la sensus_fw-la totumque_fw-la adeo_fw-la ordinem_fw-la naturae_fw-la superat_fw-la in_o all_o these_o then_o do_v not_o the_o incomprehensibility_n and_o supernaturality_n of_o this_o mystery_n lie_v in_o this_o that_o the_o one_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n shall_v be_v at_o once_o in_o two_o place_n viz._n present_a at_o the_o same_o time_n in_o heaven_n and_o to_o we_o here_o in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o yet_o this_o bishop_n seem_v to_o find_v some_o trouble_n in_o it_o to_o make_v any_o other_o unexplicable_a or_o unintelligible_a mystery_n in_o the_o catholic_n transubstantiation_n save_v only_o this_o see_v p._n 122._o for_o the_o cease_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o element_n by_o god_n omnipotency_n he_o allow_v very_o feisible_a and_o then_o the_o adduction_n of_o christ_n body_n pre-existent_a in_o the_o place_n of_o their_o substance_n labour_v under_o no_o other_o difficulty_n save_o this_o this_o body_n its_o be_v at_o once_o in_o two_o place_n here_o and_o in_o heaven_n nor_o have_v twice_o 125._o twice_o p._n 122._o &_o p._n 125._o mention_v such_o a_o sacramental_a presence_n of_o our_o lord_n have_v he_o reply_v any_o thing_n against_o it_o but_o that_o thus_o the_o term_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v not_o right_o apply_v to_o such_o a_o adduction_n which_o be_v a_o logomachy_n but_o this_o seem_v the_o difficulty_n and_o incomprehensibility_n that_o protestant_n also_o confess_v in_o their_o sacramental_a presence_n of_o our_o lord_n in_o tanta_fw-la locorum_fw-la distantia_fw-la pascentis_fw-la nos_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n vera_fw-la corporis_fw-la svi_fw-la praesentia_fw-la &_o substantia_fw-la last_o after_o this_o bishop_n with_o other_o 5._o §._o 5._o n._n 5._o have_v so_o far_o conform_v to_o the_o expression_n and_o language_n of_o the_o father_n as_o to_o allow_v a_o essential_a or_o substantial_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n it_o seem_v he_o find_v some_o of_o these_o expression_n also_o so_o far_o to_o advance_v towards_o a_o substantial_a transmutation_n of_o the_o element_n as_o that_o he_o say_v p._n 113._o non_fw-la abnuimus_fw-la nonnulla_fw-la apud_fw-la chrysostomum_fw-la aliosque_fw-la patres_fw-la inveniri_fw-la quae_fw-la emphatice_fw-la immo_fw-la vero_fw-la hyperbolice_n de_fw-fr eucharistia_n prolata_fw-la sunt_fw-la et_fw-la quae_fw-la nisi_fw-la dextre_fw-la capiantur_fw-la incautos_fw-la homines_fw-la facile_fw-la in_o errores_fw-la abducent_a and_o below_o sanctissimi_fw-la patres_fw-la quo_fw-la haec_fw-la auditorum_fw-la animus_fw-la vehementius_fw-la &_o efficacy_n imprimerent_a de_fw-la typis_fw-la tanquam_fw-la si_fw-la essent_fw-la ipsa_fw-la antitypa_n oratorum_fw-la more_fw-it multa_fw-la enunciant_fw-la and_o again_o p._n 117._o si_fw-mi verba_fw-la i._n e._n of_o some_o of_o the_o father_n nimis_fw-la rigid_a urgeantur_fw-la absque_fw-la intellectu_fw-la sacramentali_fw-la nihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la ex_fw-la iis_fw-la colligi_fw-la potest_fw-la quam_fw-la panem_fw-la &_o vinum_fw-la proprie_fw-la &_o realiter_fw-la ipsum_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la esse_fw-la quod_fw-la ne_fw-la ipsi_fw-la quidem_fw-la transubstantiatores_fw-la admittunt_fw-la where_o he_o grant_v the_o expression_n of_o some_o of_o the_o father_n so_o high_a as_o to_o transcend_v the_o assertion_n of_o catholic_n or_o transubstantiator_n who_o assertion_n again_o transcend_v those_o of_o protestant_n in_o this_o mystery_n it_o seem_v not_o reasonable_a that_o he_o shall_v after_o this_o depress_v and_o extenuate_v their_o meaning_n to_o counteance_n and_o comply_v rather_o with_o that_o opinion_n that_o be_v far_a distant_a from_o their_o expression_n neither_o will_v the_o same_o father_n calling_n in_o other_o place_n the_o element_n symbol_n and_o sign_n of_o christ_n body_n as_o he_o plead_v p._n 116._o afford_v he_o that_o relief_n he_o seek_v for_o from_o it_o for_o since_o the_o catholic_n as_o well_o as_o protestant_n do_v firm_o maintain_v and_o profess_v a_o external_a symbol_n as_o well_o as_o the_o thing_n signify_v in_o the_o eucharist_n viz._n all_o that_o be_v perceive_v by_o our_o sense_n and_o that_o be_v visible_a gustable_a or_o tangible_a of_o the_o element_n as_o the_o protestant_n contend_v this_o symbol_n to_o be_v not_o only_o these_o but_o the_o very_a substance_n and_o nature_n of_o the_o element_n also_o here_o it_o will_v be_v find_v that_o these_o sentence_n of_o the_o father_n do_v suffer_v much_o less_o force_n and_o torture_n if_o understand_v according_a to_o the_o symbol_n suppose_v by_o catholic_n than_o that_o by_o protestant_n for_o example_n the_o bishop_n 120._o bishop_n p._n 120._o have_v mention_v that_o passage_n of_o the_o ancient_a author_n de_fw-fr coena_fw-la domini_fw-la in_o s._n cyprian_n work_n the_o word_n be_v these_o panis_n iste_fw-la quem_fw-la dominus_fw-la discipâ—lis_fw-la porrigebat_fw-la non_fw-la effigy_n sed_fw-la natura_fw-la mutatus_fw-la omnipotentia_fw-la verbi_fw-la factus_fw-la est_fw-la caro_fw-la &_o sicut_fw-la in_o persona_fw-la christi_fw-la humanitas_fw-la apparebat_fw-la &_o latebat_fw-la divinitas_fw-la ita_fw-la sacramento_n visibili_fw-la ineffabiliter_fw-la divina_fw-la se_fw-la effudit_fw-la essentia_fw-la here_o i_o say_v if_o the_o sacramentum_fw-la visibile_fw-la and_o the_o external_a symbol_n be_v take_v in_o this_o bishop_n way_n for_o substantia_fw-la or_o natura_fw-la panis_fw-la all_o be_v extreme_o force_v and_o confound_v and_o so_o he_o be_v drive_v to_o expound_v it_o that_o by_o mutatio_fw-la naturae_fw-la panis_fw-la be_v mean_v only_o mutatio_fw-la usus_fw-la 120._o usus_fw-la p._n 120._o the_o change_n of_o which_o use_n of_o the_o bread_n also_o seem_v no_o object_n of_o god_n omnipotence_n but_o the_o symbol_n or_o sacrament_n be_v take_v for_o such_o as_o the_o catholic_n make_v it_o viz._n for_o the_o external_a effigy_n or_o sensible_fw-fr of_o the_o bread_n all_o be_v good_a sense_n and_o coherent_a and_o nothing_o strain_v and_o the_o omnipotentia_fw-la verbi_fw-la right_o apply_v to_o the_o mutatio_fw-la naturae_fw-la panis_fw-la as_o god_n omnipotency_n may_v be_v observe_v in_o the_o father_n to_o be_v frequent_o urge_v not_o only_o in_o relation_n to_o the_o presence_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n and_o blood_n there_o but_o also_o to_o the_o transmutation_n of_o the_o element_n there_o whilst_o the_o exterior_n of_o they_o still_o remain_v but_o now_o in_o the_o last_o place_n suppose_v the_o 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and_o after_o in_o reduce_v all_o their_o ground_n thereof_o to_o a_o la_fw-fr seule_fw-fr authorite_n du_fw-fr pape_n &_o the_o son_n concile_v and_o by_o dr._n taylor_n real_a pres_n §_o 13._o p._n 346._o in_o call_v they_o some_o trifle_a pretence_n make_v out_o of_o some_o say_n of_o the_o father_n elsewhere_o indeed_o when_o he_o be_v in_o a_o more_o charitable_a temper_n liberty_n of_o prophe_n p._n 258._o he_o say_v that_o for_o a_o motive_n to_o such_o a_o opinion_n roman_a catholic_n have_v a_o divine_a revelation_n who_o literal_a and_o grammatical_a sense_n if_o that_o sense_n be_v intend_v will_v warrant_v they_o to_o do_v violence_n to_o all_o the_o science_n in_o the_o circle_n but_o prudent_o there_o omit_v their_o plea_n of_o catholic_n tradition_n secure_v to_o they_o such_o a_o literal_a sense_n of_o the_o text._n dr._n stilling-fleet_n rom_n idol_n c._n 2._o §_o 7._o say_v first_o that_o if_o a_o mistake_n in_o this_o case_n will_v excuse_v the_o romanist_n it_o will_v excuse_v the_o gross_a idolatry_n in_o the_o world_n and_o in_o compare_v two_o person_n one_o worship_v christ_n as_o real_o present_a in_o the_o sun_n another_o christ_n as_o real_o present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n he_o say_v as_o inconsiderate_o as_o magisterial_o that_o suppose_v a_o mistake_n in_o both_o we_o be_v not_o to_o inquire_v into_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o mistake_n i._n e._n as_o he_o say_v before_o concern_v the_o probability_n of_o the_o one_o mistake_v more_o than_o of_o the_o other_o but_o the_o influence_n it_o have_v upon_o our_o action_n so_o he_o but_o what_o be_v more_o manifest_a than_o that_o the_o influence_n which_o a_o mistake_n have_v upon_o our_o action_n as_o to_o make_v they_o culpable_a or_o innocent_a be_v not_o always_o the_o same_o but_o very_o various_a and_o often_o contrary_a render_v they_o sometime_o blameless_a sometime_o faulty_a according_a as_o the_o mistake_n be_v ex_fw-la â—r_n in-excusable_a next_o he_o grant_v ibid._n §_o 5._o a_o catholic_n tradition_n of_o transubstantiation_n to_o be_v a_o sufficient_a ground_n for_o adoration_n but_o the_o cacholick_a tradition_n that_o be_v plead_v here_o necessary_a for_o adoration_n be_v only_o that_o of_o a_o corporal_a presence_n now_o for_o a_o sufficient_a evidence_n of_o such_o a_o tradition_n i_o refer_v the_o conscientious_a reader_n to_o what_o have_v be_v say_v before_o wave_v that_o of_o transubstantiation_n as_o to_o this_o controversy_n though_o the_o same_o catholic_n tradition_n authorize_v both_o namely_o a_o corporal_a presence_n by_o a_o mutation_n of_o the_o element_n into_o our_o lord_n body_n this_o from_o §_o 24._o of_o the_o rational_a ground_n catholic_n have_v for_o their_o adoration_n §_o 30_o 8ly_n for_o such_o rational_a ground_n therefore_o of_o their_o worship_n as_o be_v here_o give_v and_o not_o from_o any_o excess_n of_o charity_n or_o from_o the_o singular_a fancy_n of_o some_o few_o though_o learned_a man_n as_o dr._n stillingfleet_n in_o his_o preface_n to_o roman_a idolatry_n will_v insinuate_v idolatry_n be_v by_o many_o protestant_n of_o late_a either_o not_o at_o all_o or_o but_o faint_o charge_v on_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o first_o see_v mr._n thorndike_n in_o his_o epilogue_n 3._o l._n 30._o c._n p._n 350._o i_o say_v first_o say_v he_o that_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n prescribe_v be_v not_o necessary_o idolatry_n i_o say_v not_o what_o it_o may_v be_v accidental_o by_o that_o intention_n which_o some_o man_n may_v conceal_v and_o may_v make_v it_o idolatry_n as_o to_o god_n but_o i_o speak_v upon_o supposition_n of_o that_o intention_n which_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o church_n form_v and_o in_o his_o just_a weight_n c._n 19_o p._n 125._o they_o who_o give_v the_o honour_n proper_a to_o god_n to_o his_o creature_n be_v idolater_n they_o that_o worship_v the_o host_n give_v the_o honour_n due_a to_o god_n to_o his_o creature_n this_o be_v take_v for_o a_o demonstration_n that_o the_o worship_n of_o the_o host_n