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daillé_n apol._n des_fw-fr eglis_n reform_v c._n
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2._o part_n fol._n 6._o say_v of_o luther_n errorem_fw-la errore_fw-la commutavit_fw-la nec_fw-la videns_fw-la svam_fw-la
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most_o true_a such_o a_o presence_n be_v possible_a sect_n 29_o these_o rational_a ground_n of_o catholic_n for_o adoration_n which_o we_o expect_v shall_v have_v be_v most_o strict_o examine_v by_o those_o who_o conclude_v the_o roman_a practice_n herein_o idolatry_n be_v slight_o pass_v over_o by_o daille_n in_o pronounce_v that_o this_o error_n of_o catholic_n vient_fw-fr toute_fw-fr entiere_fw-fr de_fw-fr leur_fw-fr passion_n apolog._n des_fw-fr eglis_n reform_v c._n 11._o p._n 90._o and_o after_o in_o reduce_v all_o their_o ground_n thereof_o to_o a_o la_fw-fr seule_fw-fr authorite_n du_fw-fr pape_n &_o the_o son_n concile_v and_o by_o dr._n taylor_n real_a pres_n pres_n 13._o p._n 346._o in_o call_v they_o some_o trifle_a pretence_n make_v out_o of_o some_o say_n of_o the_o father_n elsewhere_o indeed_o when_o he_o be_v in_o a_o more_o charitable_a temper_n liberty_n of_o prophe_n p._n 258._o he_o say_v that_o for_o a_o motive_n to_o such_o a_o opinion_n roman_a catholic_n have_v a_o divine_a revelation_n who_o literal_a and_o grammatical_a sense_n if_o that_o sense_n be_v intend_v will_v warrant_v they_o to_o do_v violence_n to_o all_o the_o science_n in_o the_o circle_n but_o prudent_o there_o omit_v their_o plea_n of_o catholic_n tradition_n secure_v to_o they_o such_o a_o literal_a sense_n of_o the_o text._n dr._n stillingfleet_n rom._n idol_n c._n 2._o 2._o 7._o say_v first_o that_o if_o a_o mistake_n in_o this_o case_n will_v excuse_v the_o romanist_n it_o will_v excuse_v the_o gross_a idolatry_n in_o the_o world._n and_o in_o compare_v two_o person_n one_o worship_v christ_n as_o real_o present_a in_o the_o sun_n another_o christ_n as_o real_o present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n he_o say_v as_o inconsiderate_o as_o magisterial_o that_o suppose_v a_o mistake_n in_o both_o we_o be_v not_o to_o inquire_v into_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o mistake_n i._n e._n as_o he_o say_v before_o concern_v the_o probability_n of_o the_o one_o mistake_v more_o than_o of_o 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tradition_n authorize_v both_o namely_o a_o corporal_a presence_n by_o a_o mutation_n of_o the_o element_n into_o our_o lord_n body_n this_o from_o from_o 24._o of_o the_o rational_a ground_n catholic_n have_v for_o their_o adoration_n sect_n 30_o 8_o lie_n for_o such_o rational_a ground_n thereofre_v of_o their_o worship_n as_o be_v here_o give_v and_o not_o from_o any_o excess_n of_o charity_n or_o from_o the_o singular_a fancy_n of_o some_o few_o though_o learned_a man_n as_o dr._n stillingfleet_n in_o his_o preface_n to_o roman_a idolatry_n will_v insinuate_v idolatry_n be_v by_o many_o protestant_n of_o late_a either_o not_o at_o all_o or_o but_o faint_o charge_v on_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o first_o see_v mr._n thorndike_n in_o his_o epilogue_n 3._o l._n 30._o c._n p._n 350._o i_o say_v first_o say_v he_o that_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n prescribe_v be_v not_o necessary_o idolatry_n i_o say_v not_o what_o it_o may_v be_v accidental_o by_o that_o intention_n which_o some_o man_n may_v conceal_v and_o may_v make_v it_o idolatry_n as_o to_o god_n but_o i_o speak_v upon_o supposition_n of_o that_o intention_n which_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o church_n form_v and_o in_o his_o just_a weight_n c._n 19_o p._n 125._o they_o who_o give_v the_o honour_n proper_a to_o god_n to_o his_o creature_n be_v idolater_n they_o that_o worship_v the_o host_n give_v the_o honour_n due_a to_o god_n to_o his_o creature_n this_o be_v take_v for_o a_o demonstration_n that_o the_o worship_n of_o the_o host_n be_v idolatry_n but_o will_v any_o papist_n acknowledge_v that_o he_o honour_v the_o element_n of_o the_o eucharist_n or_o as_o he_o think_v the_o accident_n of_o they_o for_o god_n will_v common_a reason_n charge_v he_o to_o honour_n that_o which_o he_o believe_v not_o to_o be_v there_o if_o they_o be_v there_o they_o will_v not_o take_v they_o for_o god_n and_o therefore_o they_o will_v not_o honour_v they_o for_o god_n and_o that_o be_v it_o not_o say_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v idolater_n if_o the_o element_n do_v remain_v that_o must_v make_v they_o idolater_n and_o epilogue_n p._n 357._o in_o general_a he_o say_v whoso_o admit_v idolatry_n i._n e._n in_o any_o point_n whatever_o to_o be_v teach_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n can_v by_o no_o mean_n grant_v it_o to_o be_v a_o church_n the_o very_a be_v whereof_o suppose_v the_o worship_n of_o one_o god_n exclusive_a to_o any_o thing_n else_o the_o roman_a church_n then_o must_v either_o be_v free_v from_o the_o imputation_n of_o command_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v idolatry_n i._n e._n adoration_n of_o a_o creature_n for_o god_n or_o we_o must_v affirm_v there_o to_o be_v and_o to_o have_v be_v no_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n never_o since_o such_o command_n of_o that_o which_o they_o say_v be_v idolatry_n go_v forth_o which_o no_o judicious_a protestant_n i_o think_v have_v or_o dare_v say_v of_o the_o roman_a church_n since_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n for_o what_o church_n or_o sect_n of_o religion_n can_v be_v apostate_n at_o all_o if_o not_o a_o church_n commit_v and_o command_a idolatry_n even_o the_o worship_v of_o a_o piece_n of_o bread_n which_o themselves_o make_v for_o that_o god_n which_o make_v they_o and_o heaven_n and_o earth_n and_o thus_o bishop_n forbes_n de_fw-fr euchar._n l._n 2._o c._n 2._o perperam_fw-la ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d romanensibus_fw-la a_o plerisque_fw-la protestantibus_fw-la objicitur_fw-la &_o illi_fw-la idololatriae_fw-la crassissimae_fw-la &_o gravissimae_fw-la ab_fw-la his_fw-la insimulantur_fw-la &_o damnantur_fw-la cum_fw-la plerique_fw-la romanenses_n ut_fw-la &_o alii_fw-la fideles_fw-la credant_fw-la panem_fw-la consecratum_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la amplius_fw-la panem_fw-la sed_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la unde_fw-la illi_fw-la non_fw-la panem_fw-la adorant_fw-la sed_fw-la tantum_fw-la ex_fw-la suppositione_n licet_fw-la falsa_fw-la 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