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A42451 Five captious questions propounded by a factor for the papacy answered by a divine of the Church of God in England by parallel questions and positive resolutions : to which is added an occasional letter of the Lord Viscount Falkland to the same gentleman, much to this present purpose. Gataker, Charles, 1614 or 15-1680.; Falkland, Lucius Cary, Viscount, 1610?-1643. 1673 (1673) Wing G306; ESTC R24961 63,053 90

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