Selected quad for the lemma: sense_n

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sense_n	catholic_n	church_n	roman_a	2,613	5	8.9971	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A66174	A discourse of the Holy Eucharist, in the two great points of the real presence and the adoration of the Host in answer to the two discourses lately printed at Oxford on this subject : to which is prefixed a large historical preface relating to the same argument.	Wake, William, 1657-1737.	1687 (1687)	Wing W240; ESTC R4490	116,895	178

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