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A61810 The peoples right to read the Holy Scripture asserted in answer to the 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th chapters, of the second part of the Popish representer. Stratford, Nicholas, 1633-1707. 1687 (1687) Wing S5938; ESTC R9008 62,942 97

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the_o people_n right_a to_o read_v the_o holy_a scripture_n assert_v in_o answer_n to_o the_o 6_o seven_o 8_o 9th_o and_o 10_o chapter_n of_o the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o popish_a representer_n london_n print_v for_o richard_n chiswell_n at_o the_o rose_n and_o crown_n in_o st._n paul_n churchyard_n mdclxxxvii_o imprimatur_fw-la hen._n maurice_n rmo_z in_o christo_n p._n d._n wilhelmo_n archiepiscop_n cant._n a_o sacris_fw-la maii_n 27._o 1687._o the_o content_n four_o thing_n propose_v to_o be_v treat_v of_o i._o what_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o this_o this_o matter_n be_v ii_o that_o this_o practice_n be_v plain_o contrary_a to_o the_o will_n of_o god_n to_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o thing_n and_o to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n for_o more_o than_o a_o thousand_o year_n after_o christ_n iii_o the_o insufficiency_n of_o those_o reason_n by_o which_o the_o representer_n endeavour_v to_o justify_v it_o iv_o the_o truth_n of_o those_o inference_n the_o protestant_n draw_v from_o it_o page_z 1_o 2._o chap._n i._n the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o this_o matter_n represent_v pag._n 2_o etc._n etc._n chap._n ii_o the_o contrariety_n of_o this_o practice_n to_o the_o will_n of_o god_n to_o reason_n and_o to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n for_o more_o than_o a_o thousand_o year_n pag._n 8_o etc._n etc._n sect_n i._o it_o be_v contrariety_n to_o the_o will_n of_o god_n appear_v in_o that_o god_n 1._o cause_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v write_v in_o a_o language_n understand_v by_o the_o vulgar_a pag._n 9_o 2._o address_v they_o to_o the_o vulgar_a pag._n 11._o 3._o command_v the_o vulgar_a to_o converse_v familiar_o with_o they_o pag._n 12._o sect_n ii_o it_o be_v contrariety_n to_o reason_n show_v both_o from_o the_o scope_n and_o end_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o from_o the_o testimony_n of_o many_o learned_a man_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n pag._n 14_o sect_n iii_o it_o be_v contrariety_n to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n prove_v by_o unquestionable_a testimony_n for_o twelve_o hundred_o year_n downward_o p._n 17_o etc._n etc._n when_o and_o upon_o what_o occasion_n a_o restraint_n be_v first_o lay_v upon_o the_o read_n of_o the_o scripture_n p._n 26_o chap._n iii_o the_o reason_n the_o representer_n offer_v to_o justify_v this_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n pag._n 27_o sect_n i._o the_o general_a reason_n viz._n the_o mischief_n that_o arise_v from_o the_o promiscuous_a read_n of_o the_o scripture_n consider_v and_o the_o absurdity_n of_o it_o expose_v p._n 28_o etc._n etc._n sect_n ii_o the_o mischief_n object_v be_v all_o of_o the_o same_o kind_n p._n 33in_o particular_a these_o three_o 1._o the_o division_n that_o be_v among_o christian_n 2._o as_o many_o different_a bibles_n as_o there_o be_v different_a head_n 3._o not_o only_o several_a person_n but_o the_o same_o person_n many_o time_n have_v different_a bibles_n i._o that_o the_o division_n among_o christian_n arise_v sole_o or_o principal_o from_o the_o read_n of_o the_o bible_n by_o the_o vulgar_a 1._o it_o be_v notorious_o false_a 2._o in_o case_n it_o be_v true_a it_o will_v not_o be_v of_o force_n to_o infer_v his_o conclusion_n p._n 36_o it_o be_v notorious_o false_a in_o that_o 1._o there_o be_v division_n among_o the_o ancient_a guide_n of_o the_o church_n ibid._n 2._o there_o have_v be_v and_o still_o be_v division_n yea_o as_o many_o among_o the_o learned_a of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o among_o the_o protestant_n p._n 37_o the_o learned_a romanist_n be_v divide_v among_o themselves_o in_o all_o those_o point_n in_o which_o they_o be_v divide_v from_o protestant_n ibid._n 4._o those_o very_a pernicious_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n which_o the_o representer_n himself_o mention_n be_v derive_v from_o the_o learned_a especial_o from_o the_o learned_a of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n p._n 39_o 5._o the_o division_n among_o the_o vulgar_a for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v not_o owe_v to_o themselves_o but_o to_o the_o learned_a 41_o if_o it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o division_n among_o christian_n arise_v from_o the_o read_n of_o the_o bible_n by_o the_o vulgar_a yet_o it_o will_v not_o be_v sufficient_a reason_n for_o deny_v the_o bible_n to_o they_o p._n 42_o ii_o the_o second_o mischief_n viz._n if_o the_o bible_n be_v allow_v the_o vulgar_a there_o will_v be_v as_o many_o different_a bibles_n among_o they_o as_o there_o be_v head_n p._n 43_o that_o every_o difference_n in_o sense_n make_v not_o a_o different_a bible_n p._n 44_o the_o vanity_n of_o this_o reason_n appear_v in_o that_o 1._o it_o be_v of_o equal_a force_n against_o the_o read_n of_o the_o scripture_n by_o the_o learned_a yea_o of_o much_o great_a p._n 45_o 2._o where_o the_o vulgar_a be_v not_o permit_v to_o read_v the_o bible_n there_o be_v as_o many_o different_a bibles_n in_o the_o representer_n sense_n as_o where_o they_o be_v p._n 46_o 3._o the_o argument_n retort_v p._n 47_o iii_o the_o three_o mischief_n may_v also_o be_v object_v with_o as_o much_o reason_n against_o the_o read_n of_o the_o scripture_n by_o the_o learned_a particular_o by_o the_o roman_a bishop_n cardinal_n and_o pope_n p._n 48_o sect_n iii_o the_o reason_n the_o representer_n give_v why_o the_o vulgar_a so_o differ_v in_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n be_v two_o viz._n the_o obscurity_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o set_n up_o every_o man_n private_a reason_n to_o be_v judge_n of_o it_o p._n 50_o 1._o the_o obscurity_n of_o the_o scripture_n ibid._n what_o the_o protestant_n affirm_v of_o the_o plainness_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v no_o more_o than_o what_o the_o ancient_a father_n what_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n former_o and_o what_o many_o learned_a romanist_n of_o this_o present_a age_n have_v affirm_v p._n 51_o that_o the_o disagreement_n about_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n proceed_v not_o from_o the_o obscurity_n of_o it_o p._n 52_o from_o whence_o this_o disagreement_n proceed_v p._n 53_o 2._o the_o set_n up_o every_o man_n be_v private_a reason_n to_o be_v judge_n of_o scripture_n p._n 54_o the_o protestant_n make_v not_o reason_n judge_v of_o scripture_n as_o the_o socinian_o do_v ibid._n they_o make_v reason_n no_o otherwise_o judge_n than_o as_o our_o bless_a saviour_n and_o his_o apostle_n have_v allow_v &_o command_v p._n 55_o the_o clergy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n notwithstanding_o their_o loud_a cry_n against_o private_a reason_n make_v it_o judge_n as_o much_o as_o protestant_n p._n 56_o his_o argument_n from_o the_o oneness_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n answer_v and_o retort_v p._n 57_o 58_o etc._n etc._n his_o other_o argument_n from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n the_o creed_n heb._n 13._o 17._o 1_o tim._n 3._o 15._o mat._n 18._o 17._o answer_v p._n 61_o 62_o etc._n etc._n chap._n iu._n the_o false_a construction_n or_o wrong_a inference_n as_o the_o representer_n call_v 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