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A15781 A briefe treatise in which, is made playne, that Catholikes liuing and dying in their profession, may be saued, by the iudgement of the most famous and learned Protestants that euer were. Agaynst a minister [N.E.] who in his epistle exhorteth an honourable person, to forsake her ancient Catholike Roman Religion, & to become one of his new-found-out Protestant congregation. Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1623 (1623) STC 26044; ESTC S103083 31,010 52

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A BRIEFE TREATISE IN WHICH Is made playne that Catholikes liuing and dying in their Profession may be saued by the Iudgment of the most Famous and Learned Protestants that euer were Agaynst a Minister N. E. who in his Epistle exhorteth an Honourable Person to forsake her ancient Catholike Roman Religion to become one of his new-found-out Protestant Congregation Deut. 32. Vers 31. Et Inimici nostri sunt Iudices Our Enemies also are Iudges Permissu Superiorum M. DC XXIII THE PREFACE Contayning certaine Considerations as well for better vnderstāding the drift of this Treatise as for auoyding all cauills and answearing such Obiections as might be made against this Grand Protestant Iury. The Zuinglians are to be nūbred say the Lutherans with th● Anabaptists Nestorians Turkes And againe The Zuinglians call the Lutherās Eutichians and ouerthrowers of many articles of faith Iezler de Diuturnit Bell. Euchar. pag. 78. Stancarus All the Churches which those men call Reformed by the Ghospell and the Sonne of God hold the faith of Geneua Zuricke concerning Christ are Ariās neyther cā this he denyed which I haue aboue demonstrated So he de Trinit c. 8. Sturmius By these hatefull dissentions peruerse opinions the foundatiōs of our Religion are ouerthrowne the chiefest articles are called in question many heresies are brought into the Church of Christ and the high way to Mahometisme Atheisme is apparently prepared Agayne The Lutherans saith he do hold the Protestant Caluinian Churches of England France Flanders and Scotland for hereticall their Martyr● for martyrs of the diuell De ration Cōcord ineund l. ● p. 2. 24. FOR the better vnderstanding of what we are about to handle in this Treatise we must obserue first that the maine drift and scope therof is to shew how it is farre better and more secure to liue dye a Catholike in the Romaine Church then a Protestant in what Congregation soeuer not only because one of them doth condemne the other for Schismatickes and Heretikes as vncapable of saluatiō but also because Catholickes doe neuer affirme that Protestants liuing and dying Protestans may be saued not for want of charity in Catholickes as some doe cauill seing they desire nothing more thē the saluation of all but for want of true faith in Protestants without the which it is impossible to please God whereas Protestāts doe not deny that comfort to any vertuons Romaine Catholike so that for the saluatiō of ●or that brea●● saith D. Whyte amōg vs Protestants ōly toucheth some particular mē in matters not cō●erning f●yth ●n the way pag. 13● Rog●rs in his Preface to the booke of Articles Willet Antilog pag. ●5 20. D Georg Abbot against Hill p. 101. 102. D. Doue In matters of religiō we all agree Persuas p. 3● And if they do not agree in on faith ●ow ●● they be the true Church which is but o●e hath only one Lord one Faith one Baptisme Ephes ● C●ntic 6. 8. My doue is one Symbolum Constant O●e holy Catholy●●● and Apostolicall Church Cal. l 4 inst c ● ● ● See Suarez dis● de Ecc Sect. 4 ● ● l. de fide spe c. Catholickes we haue not only the beliefe of Catholickes themselues but also the iudgement of most Famous and Learned Protestants who teach the same eyther expressely or at least in such tearmes as with the help of their owne brethrē with whom they are sayd to agree at least in all materiall points may sufficiently be proued and in this sense are to be vnderstood the verdicts of all those which may seeme not to be so full and sufficient as the other in this Grand Protestant Iury. As for example Zanchius and other Protestants affirme that the Roman Church as yet is the Church of God Here in expresse words is not auerred that those who liue and die well in this Church may be saued which neuerthelesse according to the common doctrine of Catholikes doth plainly inough imply the possibility of saluatiō to all those who are members of such a Church For if they cannot be saued in the Church of God which is but one where els should they seeke for theyr saluation Or if they cannot but be damned in the Church of God M. Cartright I doubt not but diuers fathers of the Greeke Church who were great Patrones of Free-will are saued M. Sparke discoursing of the honoring of Saints Reliques prayer for the dead saith VVe are not so hasty to pronoūce sentence of condemnation of any for such errors Acontius cōcerning the Reall presence Both those that deny it and those that doe hold it are in the way of Saluation Cōcerning Transubstantiatiō D. Luther writeth thus Bread wyne are not in th● Sacramēt of the Aultar but the shewes or accidents of bread and wyne for the bread is changed into the true and naturall body of Christ the wyne into the true and naturall bloud of Christ Serm. de Euch. Concerninge receauing vnder one or both kinds there is no commaundment saith D. Luther Concerning the Pope● Supremacy about it saith D. Luther he is to be borne with all Melancton teacheth how his Monarchy is profitable Concerning Satisfaction It was an error in the holy Fathers saith D. Whitaker yet notwithstanding they were good men and holy Fathers Did not Iohn H●●se that worthy Champion of Christ saith M. Francis Iohnson other martyrs of foretymes heare say Masse euen to their dy●●g day c. Did not also diuerse of them acknowledge some the Popes calling an● Supremacy some 7. Sacraments some ●uricular Confession And Benedict Morgenstern These things were pardonable in the Godly who held the Pope to be the Vicar of Christ and head of the Church the Papacy for the Church Saintes for mediators and the Masse for the Supper of the Lord. See the Protest Apol. pag. 471. 684. You may find aboue three score pointes of Catholicke Doctrine taught by learned Protestants through all the seauenth Section how doth such an assembly deserue to be stiled the Church of God and not rather the Synagogue of Sathan But if Zanchius or any other call the Church of Rome the Church of God although it haue some damnable errous which hinder the professors therof from their saluation I hope by clearing those imagined errours from being any such barres out of Zanchius his owne learned brethren euery one may inferre that Zanchius with the help of his brethren Protestants affoardeth saluation to all Catholickes liuing well and dying in the Church of Rome The helps which we haue out of learned Protestants be these To wit that neyther the beliefe of free will prayer to saints the reall presence trāsubstātiatiō receauing vnder one or both kinds worshipping of Images the Popes supremacy and the monarchy of the B. of Rome satisfaction merit of good workes priuate Masse seauē Sacramēts or any such taught by the Roman Church doe hinder any from being capable of their