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A26183 A seasonable vindication of the truly catholick doctrine of the Church of England in reply to Dr. Sherlock's answer to Anonymus his three letters concerning church-communion. Atwood, William, d. 1705? 1683 (1683) Wing A4182; ESTC R7909 57,215 86

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