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A64135 Treatises of 1. The liberty of prophesying, 2. Prayer ex tempore, 3. Episcopacie : together with a sermon preached at Oxon. on the anniversary of the 5 of November / by Ier. Taylor. Taylor, Jeremy, 1613-1667. 1648 (1648) Wing T403; ESTC R24600 539,220 854

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