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A28220 An answer to a treatise out of ecclesiastical history translated from an ancient Greek manuscript in the publick library at Oxford by Humfrey Hody ... and published under the title of The unreasonableness of a separation from the new bishops, to shew that although a bishop was unjustly deprived, neither he nor the church ever made a separation, if the successor was not an heretick : to which is added, the canons in the Baroccian manuscript omitted by Mr. Hody. Bisbie, Nathaniel, 1635-1695.; Browne, Thomas, 1654?-1741. 1691 (1691) Wing B2980; ESTC R18575 41,921 46

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