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A31440 Independencie a great schism proved against Dr. Owen, his apology in his tract of schism : as also an appendix to the former discourse, shewing the inconstancy of the Dr. and the inconsistency of his former and present opinions / by D. Cawdrey ... Cawdrey, Daniel, 1588-1664. 1657 (1657) Wing C1630; ESTC R8915 103,968 258

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as_o much_o as_o they_o can_v to_o make_v the_o invisible_a church_n to_o be_v visible_a on_o earth_n he_o speak_v something_o suspicious_o this_o way_n p._n 90._o the_o elect_a and_o the_o church_n be_v the_o same_o person_n under_o several_a consideration_n and_o therefore_o even_o a_o particular_a church_n on_o the_o account_n of_o its_o participation_n of_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o catholic_n be_v call_v the_o elect_a 1_o pet._n 5.13_o and_o yet_o he_o speak_v of_o some_o part_n of_o the_o body_n uncomely_a p._n 215._o which_o who_o they_o be_v in_o his_o church_n i_o know_v not_o they_o leave_v those_o to_o we_o to_o clouth_n and_o beautify_v and_o then_o they_o may_v admit_v they_o into_o their_o elect_a congregation_n but_o he_o say_v if_o we_o have_v grieve_v 223._o p._n 223._o offend_a trouble_v the_o least_o member_n of_o his_o church_n so_o that_o he_o may_v just_o take_v offence_n at_o any_o of_o our_o way_n we_o profess_v our_o readiness_n to_o lie_v at_o his_o foot_n 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when_o he_o say_v 136._o p._n 136._o man_n profession_n of_o the_o knowledge_n of_o god_n contradict_v by_o a_o course_n of_o wickedness_n be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v as_o a_o thing_n give_v any_o privilege_n whatever_o so_o that_o such_o a_o man_n be_v ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la unmembr_v without_o excommunication_n and_o if_o he_o be_v a_o wicked_a minister_n he_o be_v ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la unministre_v or_o degrade_v and_o all_o his_o ministerial_a act_n be_v null_a add_v to_o this_o what_o he_o say_v p._n 159._o let_v those_o that_o be_v profane_a profess_v what_o they_o will_v and_o cry_v out_o a_o thousand_o time_n that_o they_o be_v christian_n i_o shall_v never_o acknowledge_v they_o for_o other_o than_o visible_a enemy_n of_o the_o cross_n of_o christ._n traitor_n and_o rebel_n be_v not_o de_fw-fr facto_fw-la subject_n of_o that_o king_n in_o reference_n to_o who_o they_o be_v so_o they_o be_v not_o within_o the_o church_n any_o more_o than_o a_o jew_n or_o mahometan_a within_o 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simplicity_n of_o the_o gospel_n though_o perhaps_o in_o some_o circumstance_n defective_a wherein_o yet_o we_o be_v endeavour_v a_o reformation_n §_o 7_o thus_o far_o we_o be_v clear_v of_o breach_n of_o unity_n and_o so_o of_o schism_n but_o i_o have_v intimate_v and_o partly_o prove_v there_o may_v be_v a_o breach_n of_o union_n with_o respect_n to_o the_o catholic_n church_n upon_o other_o consideration_n as_o first_o there_o be_v a_o bond_n that_o oblige_v every_o member_n of_o this_o church_n 7._o see_v pag._n 205._o §_o 7._o to_o join_v together_o in_o exercise_v the_o same_o specifical_a ordinance_n of_o worship_n when_o then_o any_o man_n shall_v refuse_v to_o join_v with_o other_o or_o refuse_v other_o to_o join_v with_o he_o in_o these_o ordinance_n here_o be_v a_o breach_n of_o love_n and_o union_n among_o the_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o in_o the_o particular_a church_n as_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_n and_o what_o think_v he_o of_o those_o church_n 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