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A86599 An antidote against Hen. Haggar's poysonous pamphlet, entitled, The foundation of the font discovered: or, A reply wherein his audaciousness in perverting holy scriptures and humane writings is discovered, his sophistry in arguing against infant-baptism, discipleship, church membership &c. is detected, his contradictions demonstrated; his cavils agains M. Cook, M. Baxter, and M. Hall answered, his raylings rebuked, and his folly manifested. By Aylmar Houghton minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ, and teacher to the congregation of Prees, in the county of Salop. Houghton, Aylmer. 1658 (1658) Wing H2917; Thomason E961_1; ESTC R207689 240,876 351

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the_o mystery_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n but_o it_o be_v not_o give_v to_o infant_n to_o know_v etc._n etc._n therefore_o infant_n can_v be_v christ_n disciple_n reply_v 1_o here_o indeed_o mention_n be_v make_v of_o disciple_n i._n e._n of_o the_o twelve_o who_o christ_n speak_v unto_o yet_o all_o they_o be_v not_o mean_v for_o he_o pronounce_v they_o bless_v that_o know_v those_o mystery_n ver_fw-la 16._o yea_o above_o many_o prophet_n and_o righteous_a man_n who_o in_o this_o respect_n be_v not_o disciple_n in_o regard_n of_o the_o clear_a discovery_n of_o those_o mystery_n verse_n 17._o but_o judas_n be_v not_o bless_v if_o you_o take_v disciple_n in_o this_o which_o be_v the_o most_o proper_a and_o immediate_a sense_n the_o conclusion_n will_v be_v that_o infant_n while_o such_o be_v none_o of_o those_o twelve_o or_o rather_o eleven_o bless_v disciplet_n which_o be_v grant_v 2._o it_o may_v be_v grant_v in_o a_o good_a sense_n that_o what_o be_v immediate_o speak_v to_o 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