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A41625 A reply to the Answer of the Amicable accommodation being a fourth vindication of the Papist misrepresented and represented : in which are more particularly laid open some of the principal methods by which the papists are misrepresented by Protestants in their books and sermons. Gother, John, d. 1704. 1686 (1686) Wing G1349; ESTC R18660 32,565 50

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bene solide colligitur Wherefore says he upon this consideration from this place of St. Paul the Punishment of Souls in Purgatory is well and solidly gathered Which is little less than a Contradiction to what the Dr. asserts of him Dr. Cumber is something good at this too who in his Advice to Catholicks endeavors to make appear that St. Gregory condemns the Doctrin of Catholicks concerning the not marrying of Priests maintaining as he says that it is lawful for such of the Clergy as cannot contain to Marry And yet whosoever consults the place will find St. Gregory to speak only of such of the Clergy as are extra Sacros Ordines constituti Not yet in Holy Orders which is not at all contrary to the receiv'd Doctrin of the Church of Rome as the Dr. is willing to represent it but what at this day they teach and practice so that in this he evidently falsifies the Father Something after the same manner he in another place treats Bellarmine endeavouring to prove him a Blasphemer for saying that a Man may be his own Redeemer whereas Bellarmine in the place cited do's not say so of himself as the Dr. represents him but only sets down the words of Scripture in which Man is so call'd and by explicating in what Sense they may be understood without any injury to Christ defends the H. Scripture from the imputation of Blasphemy Which methinks is not so ill an Office as to deserve the Title of Blasphemer for doing it The Old Dr. Willet amongst many others has an excellent one of this kind who in his Synop. Papism will needs prove the Pope to be Antichrist out of St. Bernard in these words Their own Witnesses shall speak Bernard says Bestia de Apocalypsi cui datum est os loquens Blasphenias Petri Cathedram occupat The Beast in the Apocalypse to which a Mouth was given speaking Blasphemies possesses the Chair of Peter By which he will perswade his Reader that the Bishop of Rome according to the plain words of St. Bernard is the Beast in the Apocalypse and Antechrist Whenas 't is contrary to St. Bernard who in that Epistle speaks very honorably of Pope Innocentius animating him to the performance of his Duty with Courage and in the words mention'd reflects only upon a certain Usuper who by violence invaded the Chair of Peter and banish'd Innocentius the true Bishop out of Rome The late Discourse concerning the Devotions of the Church of Rome plays upon this String too where p. 52. speaking of the Papist's They tell us says he there is a vast number of Sins in their own nature Venial for the pardon of which there is no need or occasion for the Mercy of God Which is a Doctrin they neither own nor profess but absolutely contrary to their Belief And tho' he quotes here Escobar for this Absurdity there is not one word of this to be found in him in the place cited But above all in this kind I think Dr. Taylor bears away the Bell in his Disswasive from Popery in which he shews an excellent Talent of forging strange Doctrins and Fathering them on Catholick Authors And then for his quotations which he pretends to lay down out of Fathers and Catholick Writers the greatest part of them are either strangely wrested to a sinister sense or not found at all in the Original or else unpardonably corrupted As his Answerer makes appear who Examin'd them with his own Eyes as he professes in the Original Authors Another way mightily in fashion for the Misrepresenting the Papists is by putting them upon the same File with Infidels and Pagans and by such comparisons to imprint in the Vulgar a Notion of the Papists being no better than Infidels This is a great Topick with the Bishop of Kilmore in his Sermon Preach'd at St. Warbroughs in Dublin a year ago The Pagans says he p. 12 had their several Titular Gods for several places for Delphos Worship'd Apollo Crete Jupiter and Ephesus Diana And so in Popery England Worship'd St. George Scotland St. Andrew Ireland St. Patrick c. Again In Paganism they had several Gods to pray to and so in Popery In Paganism several Professions had several Gods So in Popery Lastly to these says he both Pagans and Papists build Churches erect Altars c. This is the way this Prelate has of setting forth the Papists And one reason why he deals so civilly with them as to render the Papists no worse than Heathens he gives in his Preface to the said Sermon because we have the Word of the King says he to defend our Religion An admirable return of this Royal Favor to perswade his Majesties Subjects that the Papists and Infidels are much of a Piece And yet This Sermon is deem'd by this Good Prelate a Defence of the truth and a very seasonable Intimation of our Protestant Resolution of being True and Steddy to our Laws Oaths and Duties And let the Romanists take it as they please they must expect a great many such And really as to this I think his Lordship is much in the right for a great many such we have met with But I must take the liberty to tell his Lordship that if this be the method of defending his Religion and an argument of his being True and Steddy to his Duty that besides a great deal more that might be said to it 't is only done by Misrepresenting and that tho' he 's oblig'd to Preach against Popery as he says to the utmost of his Wit and Learning that here 's no more Wit or Learning in this than what every petty Sophister might find without much adoe to make the Protestant Turk and Jew all one because they all agree in maligning and defaming the Papists However this way of calumniating his Lordship has not the honor of inventing 't was first devis'd by those Divines the Compilers of the Book of Homilies who besides this almost word for word have variety of other Scurrilous ways as comparing the Papists with the Horse and the Ass and such like exactly calculated for the Rabble 'T was afterwards taken up by the Psalm-makers who finding David to have never a True-Protestant Hymn added that of From Turk and Pope defend us Lord. And because this seem'd to some of too soft a strain 'T is since rais'd a Note or two higher and I think even to Ela in a good hearty Family Prayer to be said Morning and Evening added to the end of the singing Psalms in a Common-Prayer-Book Printed at Oxford in the year 1683 in Twelves wherein 't is said O Lord raise up faithful Distributers of thy Mysteries contrarily confound Satan Antichrist with all Hirelings and Papists Which seems the effort of a True-Protestant Charity not only to link Satan Antichrist and the Papists together but to wish them all overtaken with the same Confusion Another way there is in pretending to declare the Devotions of Catholicks and then
otherwise due to it but only through the Ignorance or Malice of him that draws the Consequence This is the admirable Gift of Mr. Sutcliff in his Survey of Popery where he lays upon the Papists the most Infamous Positions of the Heathens and then gives his Reasons for it such as are more for his own Confusion with understanding Men than to the prejudice of those he writes against Thus he says the Papists Blasphemously make Christ not only a Desperate Man without Hope but also an Infidel without Faith And Why all this Only because Aquinas p. 3. q. 7. art 4. says that Christ seeing and enjoying God from the first instant of his Conception could not possibly have Faith or Hope in him which always suppose the Absence of the Object that is respect the Divine Essence not seen and not enjoy'd And this is reason enough for Sutcliff to cry out against the Papists as Blasphemously making Christ both a Desperate Man and an Infidel Certainly such a Piece of Divinity was never heard of before out of a Country Church And yet such as it is My Answerer is not asham'd to Print it over agen making this profound Reason of Sutcliffs a sufficient discharge of him from being a Misrepresenter quarrelling with me for curtailing the Author in setting down this his charge against the Papists without his Reason that back'd it Another way of Misrepresenting the Papists is in pretending to deliver their Doctrin and then to insert something which is notoriously false and absolutely detested by them this is what is done by the Author of a Catechism lately Publish'd who undertakes to give a Systeme of Popish Doctrins truly Represented according to their own most receiv'd Authors and Councils and coming to speak of IMAGES he says the Papists PRAY TO THEM which is so foul a Misrepresentation the the Author of the Answer to the Papist Misrepresented plainly Condemns me for making it a part of my Misrepresentations as if 't were never Charg'd against the Papists This says he would insinuate as tho' WE did directly charge them with PRAYING TO their Images without any farther respect Which we are so far from charging them with that I do not know of any People in the World liable to that Charge Thus what one Protestant asserts positively as the Doctrin and Practice of the Papists another Protestant rejects as a Misrepresentation so foul as not to be imputed to the worst of Infidels But however foul as it is 't is not only found thus in a Grave Catechism but something like it in a Sermon too viz. of J. Thomas Rect. of St. Nicholas Preach'd at Cardiffe before the Baylifs and Aldermen 1679 where amongst other Gospel-truths he gives his Auditory to understand that the Papists do not only Worship Martin's Boots Georg's Scabbard Crispins Paring-knife Thomases her Shoe and Josephs Breeches but do likewise CALL VPON THEM too Which is to make them agen more stupid Idolaters than the worst of Heathens but 't is by a Misrepresentation however agreeing with that Year of Oats's blessed Discovery yet much better suiting with some other Place than the Pulpit Another like this is that of the Answer to Catholicks no Idolaters who says t is the common Answer of Catholicks that their Adoration of the Eucharist cannot be Idolatry because they Believe the Bread to be God just as the Worshippers of the Sun believ'd the Sun to be God Which is so absolutely false of the Catholicks that on the contrary they believe that whosoever believes the Bread to be God as the Heathens did the Sun and adores it upon that consideration must of necessity be an Idolater in adoring it Another way is in framing some heathenish Absurdity and then laying it on the Papists as their Doctrin and Belief when t is only a Malicious Inference drawn from some abuse or from an obscure expression in some petty Author and this we find in the Archbishop of York so often quoted who Represents the Papists as believing Christ to be Saviour of Men only but no Women that Whoredom is allow'd by them all the year long and several other such abominable Positions which are no better than the Doctrin of Devils Such Deductive Absurdities are those which Dr. St. according to what the general Current of his Discourse Represents endeavors to perswade his Credulous Reader to be Doctrins of the Roman Church viz. That it holds no necessity of Repentance but only once in ones Life That the Roman Repentance obliges none to the forsaking their sins or a Reformation of Life That the Sacraments confer Grace on any Receiver of them tho' never so unprepar'd That Indulgences discharge Catholicks from doing the best part of their Religion Which may be seen related and confuted in a Discourse entitled The Roman Doctrin of Repentance and of Indulgences vindicated from Dr. Sts. Misrepresentations The like is to be seen in John Fox's Acts and Monuments where besides the infinite mistakes and abuses in relation to his Martyrs in considering some chief Points of the Catholick Doctrin in less than three leaves he has falsified them in above one Hundred and twenty Instances that is as his Answerer words it in his plain Language has uttered more than a Hundred and fifty Lies as is made appear in the Examen of John Fox's Calendar p. 3. p. 412. Another way is in Falsifying Authors for the Proof of some Extravagant Doctrin upon the Church of Rome And this is done several ways As first by the Archbishop of York who reports it a Tenet of the Papists That the Pope can make that Righteous which is unrighteous And then quotes L. 1. Decret Greg. Titulus 7. Chapter the Fifth which Titulus of the Decretals consists only of Four Chapters and nothing mention'd in them all besides what concerns the Translation of Bishops Other Tenets of the like stamp he imputes to the Belief of the Church of Rome and then quotes St. Thomas and Bellarmine c. in such Places where either the Matter or Place is not to be found nor any thing like it This is done another way by endeavoring to prove some Folly upon the Papists out of their own Authors and then bringing in the Authors quite contrary to their own Sense and Words This is exemplified in a Sermon several times Printed and now lately with Dr. Tillotson's name to it where p. 2. he says Learned Persons of the Church of Rome do acknowledge that Purgatory cannot be concluded from the Text 1 Cor. 3. 15. And then affirms Nay ALL that Estius contends for from this Place is that it cannot be concluded from hence that there is no Purgatory Which yet tho' preach'd at White-hall and before His late Majesty is not ALL that Estius contends for For Estius in his Explication upon that Place of St. Paul speaking of Purgatory concludes with these plain words Itaque hac ratione poena Purgatoria animarum ex hoc Pauli loco