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A86681 The essence and unitie of the Church Catholike visible, and the prioritie thereof in regard of particular churches discussed. / By Samuel Hudson minister of the Gospell. Hudson, Samuel, 17th cent. 1645 (1645) Wing H3265; Thomason E271_19; ESTC R212195 42,476 56

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they_o hold_v that_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o this_o visible_a catholic_a church_n shall_v be_v under_o one_o visible_a universal_a head_n which_o they_o make_v to_o be_v the_o pope_n christ_n vicar_n general_n and_o in_o these_o regard_v our_o divine_n do_v contradict_v and_o confute_v they_o but_o there_o be_v passage_n enough_o in_o our_o divine_n writing_n that_o may_v be_v bring_v to_o allow_v and_o approve_v visibility_n aspectability_n and_o unity_n in_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o saint_n throughout_o the_o whole_a world_n i_o will_v give_v you_o a_o taste_n but_o of_o one_o of_o the_o forementioned_a for_o brevity_n sake_n and_o he_o the_o most_o rigid_a in_o discipline_n and_o exact_v in_o logical_a division_n and_o deduction_n of_o any_o of_o they_o and_o that_o be_v dr_n aim_n who_o in_o his_o medulla_n say_v ecclesia_fw-la nunquam_fw-la de_fw-la sinit_fw-la esse_fw-la visibilis_fw-la which_o can_v be_v mean_v of_o any_o particular_a church_n for_o that_o may_v 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proof_n but_o only_o to_o show_v that_o our_o divine_n in_o deny_v the_o popish_a tenet_n of_o a_o church_n catholic_a visible_a in_o their_o sense_n yet_o all_o of_o the_o forementioned_a deny_v it_o not_o in_o my_o sense_n if_o any_o do_v but_o for_o proof_n that_o there_o be_v a_o church_n catholic_a visible_a i_o will_v first_o give_v you_o scripture_n and_o second_o demonstration_n for_o scripture_n see_v act_n 8.3_o saul_n make_v havoc_n of_o the_o church_n i_o show_v you_o before_o that_o this_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o visible_a church_n for_o they_o can_v not_o else_o be_v persecute_v and_o certain_o saul_n can_v not_o discern_v the_o invisible_a company_n but_o persecute_v promiscuous_o all_o that_o be_v of_o that_o way_n neither_o be_v it_o a_o particular_a church_n for_o this_o persecution_n be_v in_o jerusalem_n and_o in_o every_o synagogue_n and_o to_o damascus_n and_o even_o to_o strange_a city_n so_o that_o by_o church_n here_o be_v mean_v a_o indefinite_a number_n of_o 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