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A81826 Of the right of churches and of the magistrates power over them. Wherein is further made out 1. the nullity and vanity of ecclesiasticall power (of ex-communicating, deposing, and making lawes) independent from the power of magistracy. 2. The absurdity of the distinctions of power and lawes into ecclesiasticall and civil, spirituall and temporall. 3. That these distinctions have introduced the mystery of iniquity into the world, and alwayes disunited the minds and affections of Christians and brethren. 4. That those reformers who have stood for a jurisdiction distinct from that of the magistrate, have unawares strenghthened [sic] the mystery of iniquity. / By Lewis du Moulin Professour of History in the Vniversity of Oxford. Du Moulin, Lewis, 1606-1680. 1658 (1658) Wing D2544; Thomason E2115_1; ESTC R212665 195,819 444

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the_o magistrate_n be_v not_o head_n of_o the_o church_n more_o than_o of_o other_o society_n for_o as_o the_o calling_n of_o a_o physician_n merchant_n smith_n seaman_n so_o of_o a_o christian_a as_o christian_a and_o church-member_n be_v not_o subordinate_a to_o magistracy_n but_o only_o under_o the_o notion_n of_o and_o as_o they_o be_v member_n of_o family_n society_n corporation_n and_o commonwealth_n in_o all_o which_o magistracy_n be_v virtual_o and_o eminent_o resident_a in_o regard_n that_o no_o society_n of_o man_n can_v be_v imagine_v to_o be_v govern_v either_o without_o a_o power_n delegate_v from_o the_o magistrate_n or_o without_o assume_v magistracy_n within_o itself_o in_o that_o sense_n the_o magistrate_n may_v be_v say_v for_o these_o three_o or_o four_o reason_n to_o be_v head_n of_o a_o visible_a national_a church_n 1._o because_o the_o matter_n manner_n and_o extent_n of_o the_o power_n exercise_v by_o that_o church_n be_v whole_o the_o same_o with_o that_o of_o the_o magistrate_n it_o be_v needless_a to_o make_v of_o one_o power_n two_o and_o therefore_o the_o magistrate_n be_v the_o supreme_a governor_n in_o the_o manage_n of_o that_o power_n exercise_v alike_o in_o all_o kind_n of_o society_n within_o his_o dominion_n he_o may_v very_o proper_o be_v the_o supreme_a governor_n as_o well_o of_o church_n as_o of_o all_o other_o society_n 2._o the_o magistrate_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v head_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n because_o there_o be_v no_o man_n of_o what_o place_n function_n call_v dignity_n so_o ever_o he_o be_v that_o in_o a_o external_a visible_a way_n can_v so_o much_o promote_v the_o interest_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o the_o build_n up_o of_o his_o kingdom_n as_o the_o supreme_a magistrate_n not_o so_o much_o consider_v as_o christian_a but_o as_o magistrate_n and_o by_o virtue_n of_o his_o magistracy_n none_o do_v doubt_n but_o that_o one_o single_a woman_n namely_o queen_n elizabeth_n be_v a_o magistrate_n do_v contribute_v more_o for_o establish_v and_o spread_v the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n in_o england_n than_o all_o the_o godly_a minister_n put_v together_o in_o the_o day_n of_o queen_n mary_n let_v but_o one_o single_a magistrate_n countenance_n religion_n this_o will_v avail_v more_o than_o thousand_o of_o greenham_n or_o bradford_n under_o a_o magistrate_n of_o a_o contrary_a religion_n sure_o where_o god_n have_v give_v more_o ability_n and_o power_n to_o do_v good_a he_o also_o have_v place_v there_o more_o right_a &_o duty_n to_o promote_v that_o good_a i_o think_v there_o be_v more_o stress_n of_o duty_n lay_v upon_o queen_n elizabeth_n to_o advance_v christ_n kingdom_n in_o england_n then_o on_o 100_o bradford_n latimer_n and_o ridleys_n in_o queen_n mary_n day_n a_o 3._o ground_n may_v be_v add_v why_o the_o sovereign_a magistrate_n may_v be_v call_v the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o which_o be_v much_o press_v by_o reynolds_n martyr_n musculus_fw-la bullingerus_n gualterus_n zanchius_n pareus_n be_v because_o all_o the_o decision_n of_o minister_n about_o matter_n of_o faith_n or_o discipline_n be_v but_o mere_a counsel_n advice_n and_o direction_n not_o bind_v external_o that_o be_v active_o or_o passive_o any_o church_n society_n or_o corporation_n except_o they_o receive_v a_o sanction_n from_o the_o magistrate_n and_o beside_o that_o these_o sanction_n be_v not_o to_o be_v make_v by_o he_o caeco_fw-la judicio_fw-la with_o a_o blind_a judgement_n stand_v to_o their_o determination_n without_o examination_n and_o do_v as_o much_o as_o those_o of_o beroea_n who_o ere_o they_o believe_v st._n paul_n search_v the_o scripture_n to_o know_v whether_o it_o be_v so_o as_o he_o preach_v as_o no_o obedience_n be_v to_o be_v render_v by_o any_o person_n society_n or_o corporation_n without_o they_o due_o weigh_v in_o their_o judgement_n of_o discretion_n whether_o the_o command_n be_v just_a or_o no_o so_o a_o command_n be_v not_o to_o be_v make_v by_o the_o person_n who_o duty_n and_o part_n it_o be_v to_o command_v until_o he_o first_o understand_v and_o apprehend_v by_o his_o judgement_n of_o discretion_n the_o thing_n to_o be_v a_o good_a and_o a_o fit_a rule_n of_o obedience_n so_o that_o since_o presbytery_n and_o synod_n can_v enforce_v obligation_n of_o obedience_n to_o their_o declaration_n and_o decision_n without_o the_o injunction_n and_o command_n of_o the_o magistrate_n since_o also_o he_o be_v not_o to_o enjoin_v or_o command_v any_o thing_n repugnant_a to_o his_o own_o judgement_n it_o do_v consequent_o follow_v that_o good_a reason_n it_o be_v that_o he_o who_o last_o be_v to_o judge_v and_o command_v any_o thing_n propound_v and_o debate_v in_o whatever_o assembly_n of_o man_n shall_v be_v style_v the_o sovereign_a judge_n head_n ruler_n and_o governor_n of_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v sole_o in_o his_o own_o power_n four_o he_o may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n because_o of_o three_o main_a duty_n which_o be_v annex_v to_o his_o office_n of_o magistracy_n which_o comprehend_v what_o be_v requisite_a for_o life_n godliness_n and_o happiness_n the_o 1._o be_v provisio_fw-la mediorum_fw-la conducentium_fw-la ad_fw-la finem_fw-la optimum_fw-la provision_n of_o the_o mean_n conduce_v to_o the_o best_a end_n 2._o remotio_fw-la impedientium_fw-la the_o remove_n of_o hindrance_n 3._o actualis_fw-la directio_fw-la in_o illum_fw-la finem_fw-la a_o actual_a direction_n &_o order_v thing_n to_o that_o end_n these_o 3._o condition_n javellus_fw-la a_o romish_a bishop_n lay_v down_o to_o assert_v the_o sovereign_a power_n of_o the_o magistrate_n in_o judge_v provide_v order_v and_o remove_v in_o order_n to_o obtain_v the_o best_a end_n which_o he_o say_v be_v the_o main_a felicity_n of_o man_n last_o he_o may_v be_v well_o call_v head_n of_o the_o church_n that_o receive_v appeal_n from_o all_o church-judicatories_a and_o disannul_v or_o ratify_v their_o judgement_n and_o sentence_n but_o mr._n rutherfurd_n deni_v those_o act_n to_o be_v appeal_n be_v not_o in_o eadem_fw-la serie_fw-la from_o a_o low_a ecclesiastical_a court_n to_o a_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a court_n and_o say_v that_o from_o a_o ecclesiastical_a court_n to_o a_o civil_a as_o to_o the_o magistrate_n there_o be_v no_o appeal_n but_o a_o removal_n by_o a_o declinator_fw-la a_o complaint_n a_o refuge_n but_o we_o have_v prove_v that_o synod_n presbytery_n etc._n etc._n have_v no_o jurisdiction_n but_o what_o they_o have_v from_o the_o magistrate_n therefore_o all_o appeal_n from_o a_o church-judicatorie_a to_o the_o magistrate_n be_v but_o from_o a_o inseriour_a court_n of_o the_o magistrate_n to_o a_o superior_a of_o the_o same_o magistrate_n rivet_n on_o the_o decalogue_n have_v not_o learn_v such_o squib_n of_o distinction_n betwixt_o appeal_n and_o refuge_n complaint_n and_o declinator_n for_o by_o any_o mean_n he_o will_v have_v man_n to_o appeal_v to_o the_o magistrate_n from_o church-sentence_n minister_n as_o minister_n be_v the_o subject_n of_o the_o sovereign_a magistrate_n and_o why_o may_v it_o not_o be_v lawful_a for_o subject_n to_o appeal_v from_o the_o judgement_n of_o subject_n to_o the_o supreme_a magistrate_n and_o why_o may_v it_o not_o be_v lawful_a to_o the_o supreme_a magistrate_n to_o review_v the_o judgement_n of_o his_o subject_n to_o ratify_v they_o if_o they_o be_v good_a and_o abolish_v they_o if_o they_o be_v bad_a for_o call_v those_o removal_n what_o you_o will_v so_o that_o the_o thing_n be_v still_o the_o same_o for_o he_o that_o from_o a_o unjust_a sentence_n of_o a_o church-judicatorie_a have_v his_o recourse_n to_o the_o magistrate_n both_o decline_v the_o sentence_n of_o that_o court_n appeal_v to_o a_o high_a court_n and_o make_v his_o complaint_n to_o he_o that_o can_v redress_v he_o help_v he_o and_o disannul_v the_o first_o sentence_n i_o confess_v if_o a_o man_n be_v condemn_v in_o england_n he_o may_v have_v his_o refuge_n to_o some_o neighbour_n prince_n but_o this_o prince_n can_v but_o protect_v he_o from_o the_o execution_n of_o the_o sentence_n against_o he_o but_o can_v disannul_v the_o sentence_n against_o he_o nor_o restore_v he_o in_o statu_fw-la quo_fw-la prius_fw-la such_o be_v the_o example_n of_o chrysostomus_n flavianus_n and_o athanasius_n which_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n for_o they_o repair_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n desire_v indeed_o to_o be_v judge_v by_o he_o but_o they_o do_v not_o look_v upon_o he_o as_o their_o superior_a that_o can_v relieve_v they_o and_o quash_n the_o sentence_n against_o they_o they_o repair_v to_o he_o only_o as_o to_o a_o mediator_n and_o intercessor_n authority_n shall_v now_o make_v good_a what_o i_o have_v prove_v to_o be_v consonant_n to_o reason_n such_o as_o may_v be_v bring_v out_o of_o the_o best_a reformer_n as_o martyr_n reynolds_n pareus_n chamier_n who_o make_v no_o other_o supreme_a visible_a governor_n of_o the_o church_n than_o the_o sovereign_a magistrate_n but_o i_o will_v
magistrate_n invest_v with_o the_o same_o power_n since_o then_o the_o magistrate_n take_v no_o more_o upon_o himself_o than_o such_o a_o external_a jurisdiction_n as_o minister_n may_v well_o assume_v by_o the_o delegation_n or_o concession_n of_o the_o magistrate_n why_o shall_v mr._n gillespie_n hence_o infer_v that_o this_o power_n in_o magistrate_n make_v not_o they_o supreme_a judge_n and_o governor_n whenas_o the_o same_o jurisdiction_n lay_v upon_o minister_n neither_o make_v they_o supreme_a judge_n and_o governor_n in_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n no_o hurt_n then_o to_o the_o magistrate_n by_o this_o inference_n only_o that_o it_o seem_v to_o acknowledge_v that_o some_o do_v hold_v the_o magistrate_n to_o be_v supreme_a judge_n and_o governor_n in_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n give_v he_o a_o prerogative_n which_o belong_v only_o to_o jesus_n christ_n i_o believe_v none_o of_o his_o opposite_n speak_v in_o that_o crude_a manner_n magistrate_n be_v not_o unerring_a judge_n they_o fail_v many_o time_n in_o their_o judgement_n both_o declarative_a and_o of_o discretion_n so_o do_v the_o minister_n and_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o supreme_a visible_a judge_n and_o governor_n in_o ecclesiasticall_n to_o who_o decision_n determination_n and_o command_n a_o conscience_n be_v oblige_v to_o yield_v further_o than_o it_o be_v enlighten_v or_o convince_v for_o there_o be_v a_o tribunal_n in_o every_o one_o conscience_n usual_a appeal_n be_v make_v to_o it_o from_o the_o magistrate_n yea_o from_o the_o sentence_n of_o synod_n and_o presbytery_n this_o be_v the_o prerogative_n of_o jesus_n christ_n by_o a_o sovereign_a judgement_n and_o determination_n to_o resolve_v the_o intellect_n incline_v the_o will_n and_o convince_v the_o conscience_n the_o magistrate_n be_v not_o make_v by_o any_o of_o mr._n gillespy_v opposite_n as_o far_o as_o i_o know_v otherwise_o supreme_a head_n or_o governor_n in_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n than_o martyr_n zanchius_n pareus_n etc._n etc._n make_v he_o head_n of_o the_o church_n he_o further_o say_v that_o what_o he_o state_v about_o the_o power_n of_o the_o magistrate_n in_o ecclesiastical_a thing_n do_v not_o invest_v he_o with_o the_o subordinate_a ministerial_a forinsecall_n judgement_n in_o ecclesiastical_a thing_n or_o cause_n i_o think_v if_o scotus_n be_v live_v he_o will_v hardly_o understand_v what_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o ministerial_a forinsecall_a directive_n judgement_n for_o the_o word_n ministerial_a be_v no_o way_n forinsecall_v for_o the_o stile_n of_o forinsecall_n make_v the_o minister_n sit_v in_o a_o court_n of_o judicature_n as_o the_o judge_n at_o westminister_n hall_n give_v sentence_n which_o both_o party_n must_v stand_v to_o except_o they_o can_v appeal_v or_o expect_v a_o redress_n in_o a_o superior_a court_n again_o the_o word_n directive_n agree_v no_o better_a with_o forinsecall_n than_o the_o papal_a title_n of_o servant_n of_o servant_n with_o god_n on_o earth_n and_o the_o spouse_n of_o christ_n for_o whereas_o the_o word_n forinsecall_v give_v no_o leave_n to_o the_o plaintiff_n or_o defendant_n to_o interpret_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o court_n to_o his_o own_o sense_n or_o apprehension_n on_o the_o contrary_a the_o word_n directive_n do_v it_o and_o give_v those_o that_o attend_v the_o word_n and_o hearken_v to_o the_o direction_n of_o the_o minister_n a_o privilege_n like_o that_o which_o st._n paul_n yield_v to_o the_o people_n of_o beroea_n who_o have_v hear_v st._n paul_n will_v be_v well_o satisfy_v ere_o they_o give_v credit_n to_o he_o for_o they_o search_v the_o scripture_n to_o know_v whether_o it_o be_v so_o as_o st._n paul_n will_v have_v they_o to_o do_v or_o as_o he_o say_v unto_o they_o and_o give_v they_o direction_n chapter_n x._o whether_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n have_v appoint_v as_o the_o river_n assembly_n say_v officer_n in_o government_n distinct_a from_o the_o magistrate_n the_o strength_n of_o the_o place_n 2_o chron._n 19_o by_o they_o allege_v examine_v that_o the_o elder_n in_o that_o place_n be_v not_o church-officer_n a_o answer_n to_o mr._n gillespy_v argument_n endeavour_v to_o prove_v that_o josaphat_n appoint_v two_o court_n one_o ecclesiastical_a another_o civil_a it_o remain_v in_o the_o examen_fw-la of_o the_o first_o section_n of_o the_o 30._o chapter_n of_o the_o confession_n we_o shall_v speak_v a_o word_n of_o the_o church-officer_n in_o who_o hand_n the_o river_n assembly_n say_v a_o government_n be_v appoint_v distinct_a from_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n god_n indeed_o have_v appoint_v in_o the_o church_n officer_n distinct_a from_o the_o magistrate_n as_o he_o have_v appoint_v in_o the_o law_n the_o magistracy_n of_o moses_n to_o be_v distinct_a from_o the_o priesthood_n of_o aaron_n and_o the_o priest_n and_o levite_n to_o have_v a_o distinct_a function_n from_o that_o of_o the_o ruler_n elder_n captain_n judge_n etc._n etc._n but_o god_n never_o appoint_v the_o jurisdiction_n of_o aaron_n and_o of_o the_o priest_n and_o levite_n to_o be_v distinct_a from_o that_o of_o moses_n and_o of_o the_o supreme_a magistrate_n nor_o ever_o mean_v with_o the_o diversity_n of_o office_n and_o officer_n to_o introduce_v a_o diversity_n and_o distinction_n of_o jurisdiction_n for_o be_v the_o jurisdiction_n exercise_v by_o church-officer_n of_o so_o distinct_a a_o nature_n from_o the_o magistrate_n jurisdiction_n as_o the_o paternal_a jurisdiction_n be_v distinct_a from_o the_o marital_a and_o both_o from_o that_o of_o the_o magistrate_n one_o can_v not_o thence_o infer_v that_o they_o be_v not_o all_o three_o subordinate_a to_o one_o superior_a jurisdiction_n coordinate_a jurisdiction_n as_o of_o father_n husband_n master_n of_o family_n major_n of_o town_n be_v all_o subordinate_a to_o one_o supreme_a jurisdiction_n but_o to_o prove_v that_o church-officer_n be_v not_o appoint_v by_o god_n in_o a_o government_n distinct_a from_o that_o of_o the_o magistrate_n but_o in_o subordination_n to_o it_o the_o reverend_a assembly_n make_v use_n of_o one_o place_n of_o scripture_n in_o their_o humble_a advice_n for_o government_n which_o though_o they_o quote_v in_o the_o behalf_n of_o a_o double_a jurisdiction_n yet_o it_o do_v total_o overthrow_v it_o their_o word_n be_v as_o there_o be_v in_o the_o jew_n church_n elder_n of_o the_o people_n join_v with_o the_o priest_n and_o levite_n in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n as_o appear_v in_o 2_o chronic._n 19_o v._o 8_o 9_o 10._o etc._n etc._n so_o christ_n who_o have_v institute_v a_o government_n and_o governor_n ecclesiastical_a in_o the_o church_n have_v furnish_v some_o in_o his_o church_n beside_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n with_o gift_n for_o government_n and_o with_o commission_n to_o execute_v the_o same_o when_o call_v thereunto_o who_o be_v to_o join_v with_o the_o minister_n in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n rom._n 12._o 7_o 8._o 1_o cor._n 12._o v._n 28._o which_o officer_n reform_v church_n common_o call_v elder_n one_o party_n or_o other_o be_v mighty_o mistake_v and_o do_v wrest_v the_o scripture_n against_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n so_o clear_o manifest_v in_o the_o literal_a meaning_n i_o wish_v with_o all_o my_o heart_n that_o as_o the_o reverend_a divine_n and_o mr._n gillespie_n propound_v to_o the_o christian_a church_n that_o of_o the_o jew_n for_o a_o example_n of_o jurisdiction_n distinct_a from_o that_o of_o the_o magistrate_n so_o they_o will_v take_v no_o other_o umpire_n and_o judge_n to_o make_v good_a that_o double_a jurisdiction_n than_o this_o text_n they_o have_v choose_v for_o i_o be_o confident_a they_o will_v find_v their_o condemnation_n in_o it_o no_o place_n in_o the_o scripture_n more_o evident_o assert_v the_o confusion_n of_o jurisdiction_n among_o the_o jew_n then_o this_o i_o think_v the_o presbyterian_n &_o anti-presbyterians_a both_o draw_v this_o text_n to_o their_o advantage_n be_v like_o salmasius_n and_o the_o minister_n of_o leyden_n about_o the_o question_n of_o wear_v long_o or_o short_a hair_n the_o minister_n make_v use_n of_o the_o same_o text_n 1_o cor._n 11._o against_o long_a hair_n that_o salmasius_n do_v against_o short_a but_o the_o whole_a context_n from_o the_o 8_o verse_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n be_v whole_o for_o we_o 1._o the_o text_n say_v verse_n 8._o that_o josaphat_n appoint_v for_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o for_o controversy_n levite_n priest_n and_o chief_n of_o the_o family_n of_o israel_n here_o than_o you_o have_v first_fw-mi no_o distinction_n of_o judicatories_n but_o rather_o of_o the_o head_n either_o of_o family_n or_o so_o call_v for_o their_o wisdom_n from_o all_o the_o 12._o tribe_n of_o israel_n to_o one_o judicatory_a or_o sanedrim_n as_o the_o rabbin_n &_o the_o best_a interpreter_n think_v 2._o in_o set_v they_o over_o affair_n there_o be_v no_o distinction_n mention_v as_o that_o the_o 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these_o word_n the_o church_n and_o the_o commonwealth_n have_v some_o thing_n that_o seem_v common_a and_o they_o may_v be_v almost_o alike_o manage_v both_o by_o ecclesiast_fw-la call_v assembly_n and_o by_o the_o pow●r_n of_o the_o magistrate_n how_o do_v this_o agree_v with_o what_o we_o have_v hear_v he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v a_o horrible_a confusion_n for_o the_o church_n and_o state_n to_o be_v govern_v by_o the_o same_o man_n pag._n 198._o and_o 199._o he_o speak_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n in_o the_o language_n of_o our_o brethren_n it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o mere_a authority_n of_o council_n ought_v not_o to_o move_v we_o to_o receive_v a_o point_n of_o religion_n the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o thing_n ought_v to_o be_v the_o chief_a motive_n and_o ground_n but_o we_o have_v he_o very_o express_o teach_v his_o scholar_n and_o auditor_n at_o saumur_n that_o the_o appellation_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n do_v proper_o belong_v to_o a_o 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