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A89446 The Church of England vindicated against her chief adversaries of the Church of Rome wherein the most material points are fairly debated, and briefly and fully answered / by a learned divine. Menzeis, John, 1624-1684. 1680 (1680) Wing M33A; ESTC R42292 320,894 395

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he_o mean_v by_o hoc_fw-la this_o to_o all_o this_o he_o answer_v pag._n 112_o 113._o that_o hoc_fw-la this_o signify_v nothing_o determinate_o until_o the_o last_o word_n or_o predicate_v my_o body_n be_v pronounce_v a_o noble_a solution_n forsooth_o and_o worthy_a of_o the_o acumen_n of_o a_o jesuit_n do_v he_o not_o by_o say_v that_o when_o christ_n pronounce_v this_o it_o signify_v nothing_o at_o all_o determinate_o confirm_v what_o i_o say_v that_o their_o gloss_n render_v the_o proposition_n of_o christ_n inexplicable_a for_o i_o can_v put_v no_o other_o gloss_n upon_o the_o word_n of_o this_o pamphleter_n but_o that_o neither_o the_o apostle_n nor_o yet_o christ_n himself_o understand_v what_o hoc_fw-la signify_v when_o it_o be_v first_o utter_v it_o signify_v nothing_o determinate_o than_o it_o will_v appear_v it_o signify_v something_o but_o indeterminate_o what_o can_v this_o be_v but_o the_o individuum_fw-la vagum_fw-la that_o other_o talk_v of_o that_o be_v in_o plain_a 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of_o bread_n according_a to_o the_o principle_n of_o transubstantiator_n ergo_fw-la hoc_fw-la this_o can_v signify_v nothing_o but_o bread_n and_o that_o determinate_o and_o consequent_o the_o proposition_n must_v be_v figurative_a suppose_v a_o man_n hold_v out_o a_o piece_n of_o gold_n to_o another_o shall_v say_v this_o be_v a_o jacobus_n who_o can_v deny_v but_o by_o this_o at_o the_o first_o pronunciation_n thereof_o he_o do_v understand_v the_o piece_n of_o gold_n whether_o he_o or_o i_o do_v quibble_n concern_v this_o matter_n other_o may_v judge_v i_o add_v second_o pag._n 128._o that_o according_a to_o the_o popish_a gloss_n this_o proposition_n of_o christ_n be_v both_o false_a and_o shall_v imply_v a_o manifest_a contradiction_n this_o i_o confirm_v two_o way_n first_o because_o a_o true_a affirmative_a proposition_n de_fw-fr praesenti_fw-la can_v produce_v its_o own_o object_n else_o in_o that_o instant_n of_o nature_n wherein_o the_o proposition_n be_v conceive_v before_o 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