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A42578 Veteres vindicati, in an expostulatory letter to Mr. Sclater of Putney, upon his Consensus veterum, &c. wherein the absurdity of his method, the weakness of his reasons are shewn, his false aspersions upon the Church of England are wiped off, and her faith concerning the Eucharist proved Gee, Edward, 1657-1730. 1687 (1687) Wing G462; ESTC R22037 94,746 111

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to_o make_v bertram_z a_o good_a catholic_n that_o be_v in_o your_o stile_n a_o true_a man_n for_o transubstantiation_n at_o last_o when_o hitherto_o their_o church_n have_v damn_v this_o writer_n to_o the_o pit_n of_o hell_n and_o mr._n sclater_n himself_o have_v very_o chronological_o put_v he_o among_o the_o follower_n of_o berengarius_fw-la who_o first_o disturb_v the_o long_a peace_n 75._o p._n 76._o p._n 75._o and_o as_o long_o continue_v faith_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n of_o transubstantiation_n this_o strange_a attempt_n be_v accompany_v with_o art_n and_o trick_n as_o strange_a and_o unusual_a with_o all_o honest_a man_n that_o be_v with_o a_o violent_a pervert_n of_o the_o author_n sense_n and_o a_o unjust_a and_o most_o foolish_a turn_v of_o the_o whole_a design_n of_o bertram_n 1686._o bertram_n in_o his_o remark_n upon_o bertram_n p._n 207_o 208_o etc._n etc._n print_a at_o the_o end_n of_o his_o translation_n paris_n 1686._o this_o gentle_a man_n make_v bertram_n 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authority_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v not_o probable_a that_o they_o two_o be_v the_o first_o author_n of_o this_o opinion_n now_o for_o brevity_n sake_n to_o set_v this_o aside_o which_o be_v pitiful_a beg_n and_o not_o prove_v be_v these_o two_o man_n after_o all_o the_o abbaudus_n and_o gaultier_n of_o this_o opinion_n that_o our_o saviour_n body_n be_v receive_v in_o the_o eucharist_n without_o any_o veil_n or_o figure_n this_o be_v so_o very_o false_a that_o i_o wonder_v how_o any_o man_n that_o have_v common_a sense_n or_o any_o learning_n can_v have_v the_o face_n to_o assert_v it_o remark_n it_o cogitavetam_fw-la &_o illis_fw-la aliqua_fw-la respondere_fw-la qui_fw-la dicunt_fw-la ipsum_fw-la corpus_fw-la non_fw-la frangi_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o albedine_fw-la ejus_fw-la &_o rotunditate_fw-la aliquid_fw-la factitari_fw-la sed_fw-la recogitans_fw-la ineptum_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o evangelio_n christi_fw-la de_fw-la albedine_fw-la &_o rotunditate_fw-la disp●tare_fw-la etc._n 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