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A17261 Truth and falshood, or, A comparison betweene the truth now taught in England, and the doctrine of the Romish church: with a briefe confutation of that popish doctrine. Hereunto is added an answere to such reasons as the popish recusants alledge, why they will not come to our churches. By Francis Bunny, sometime fellow of Magdalen College in Oxford Bunny, Francis, 1543-1617. 1595 (1595) STC 4102; ESTC S112834 245,334 363

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to_o lay_v open_a and_o amplify_v our_o own_o corrupt_a nature_n and_o to_o confess_v the_o power_n and_o force_v of_o original_a sin_n in_o we_o be_v these_o partly_o our_o own_o woeful_a experience_n whereby_o if_o we_o have_v any_o true_a feel_n of_o our_o frail_a estate_n or_o know_v any_o thing_n of_o our_o unwillingnes_n to_o that_o which_o be_v good_a and_o our_o ready_a inclination_n to_o that_o which_o be_v evil_a we_o must_v needs_o confess_v that_o the_o law_n of_o our_o flesh_n 7.23_o rom._n 7.23_o be_v always_o rebellious_a to_o the_o law_n of_o the_o spirit_n which_o be_v in_o we_o and_o that_o the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o flesh_n be_v such_o a_o froward_a enemy_n to_o god_n 8.7_o rom._n 8.7_o as_o be_v not_o subject_a to_o the_o law_n of_o god_n neither_o indeed_o can_v be_v partly_o also_o the_o manifold_a and_o manifest_a testimony_n out_o of_o god_n word_n which_o do_v plain_o prove_v that_o this_o original_a sin_n have_v so_o corrupt_v our_o whole_a nature_n that_o it_o can_v bring_v forth_o nothing_o that_o be_v good_a or_o godly_a 6.5_o gen._n 6.5_o such_o be_v that_o all_o the_o imagination_n of_o the_o thought_n of_o man_n heart_n be_v only_o evil_a always_o and_o that_o also_o 8.21_o gen._n 8.21_o the_o imagination_n of_o man_n heart_n be_v evil_a from_o his_o youth_n whereby_o we_o must_v needs_o confess_v and_o acknowledge_v it_o to_o be_v true_a that_o we_o be_v not_o sufficient_a of_o ourselves_o to_o think_v any_o thing_n as_o of_o ourselves_o 3.5_o 2._o cor._n 3.5_o in_o those_o thing_n that_o belong_v unto_o true_a godliness_n and_o why_o because_o that_o by_o one_o man_n sin_n enter_v into_o the_o world_n 5.12.18_o rom._n 5.12.18_o and_o by_o the_o offence_n of_o one_o the_o fault_n come_v on_o all_o man_n to_o condemnation_n in_o this_o respect_n the_o apostle_n call_v such_o as_o be_v not_o regenerate_v enemy_n to_o god_n the_o child_n of_o wrath_n by_o nature_n vessel_n of_o dishonour_n and_o by_o such_o like_a name_n whereby_o he_o 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mind_n and_o lead_v we_o captive_a to_o the_o law_n of_o sin_n which_o be_v in_o our_o member_n insomuch_o as_o we_o be_v force_v not_o only_o to_o cry_v out_o with_o the_o prophet_n david_n 19.12_o psal_n 19.12_o who_o can_v understand_v his_o fault_n cleanse_v i_o from_o secret_a fault_n but_o also_o continual_o to_o pray_v as_o christ_n will_v we_o forgive_v we_o our_o trespass_n 12.1_o heb._n 12.1_o for_o sin_n hang_v so_o fast_o on_o we_o that_o even_o when_o we_o will_v do_v good_a 2d_o rom._n 7_o 2d_o then_o evil_a be_v present_a with_o us._n and_o therefore_o well_o may_v our_o spirit_n strive_v that_o the_o flesh_n prevail_v not_o and_o the_o new_a man_n wax_v every_o day_n strong_a against_o the_o old_a man_n yet_o so_o long_o as_o we_o carry_v about_o with_o we_o this_o body_n subject_a to_o corruption_n satan_n will_v not_o leave_v buffet_n we_o sin_n will_v not_o cease_v to_o assault_v us._n but_o as_o a_o froward_a and_o cruel_a enemy_n even_o then_o when_o it_o be_v 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to_o confess_v that_o no_o man_n can_v come_v unto_o christ_n to_o serve_v he_o 6.44_o joh._n 6.44_o unless_o the_o father_n draw_v he_o so_o that_o even_o in_o respect_n of_o those_o excellent_a thing_n that_o man_n do_v seem_v to_o have_v he_o may_v true_o say_v 7.18_o rom._n 7.18_o i_o know_v that_o in_o i_o that_o be_v in_o my_o flesh_n there_o dwell_v no_o good_a thing_n for_o his_o mind_n be_v darken_v that_o it_o can_v not_o know_v his_o heart_n be_v clog_v that_o it_o will_v not_o obey_v sincere_o and_o ready_o as_o it_o ought_v god_n holy_a will_n thus_o than_o it_o appear_v not_o only_o that_o all_o that_o be_v bear_v of_o unclean_a seed_n be_v conceive_v and_o bear_v in_o original_a sin_n 8.23_o rom._n 7.24_o rom._n 8.23_o but_o also_o that_o the_o same_o do_v make_v great_a trouble_n even_o to_o the_o godly_a yea_o it_o make_v they_o to_o sigh_v for_o their_o deliverance_n from_o this_o their_o body_n which_o by_o reason_n of_o sin_n be_v so_o subject_a to_o death_n n_o concupiscence_n be_v s●_n n_o and_o now_o for_o this_o concupiscence_n by_o mean_n whereof_o we_o be_v thus_o entice_v unto_o sin_n and_o also_o hinder_v from_o sincere_a obedience_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n will_v in_o no_o wise_n yield_v that_o it_o shall_v be_v sin_n in_o the_o regenerate_a unless_o it_o also_o draw_v consent_n of_o reason_n to_o yield_v unto_o it_o for_o this_o they_o all_o teach_v and_o yet_o saint_n paul_n in_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n often_o call_v it_o sin_n as_o m._n bellarmine_n himself_o confess_v 10._o de_fw-fr amiss_a gratiae_fw-la lib._n 5._o cap._n 10._o yea_o and_o that_o in_o the_o regenerate_a but_o it_o be_v so_o call_v say_v he_o unproper_o not_o because_o it_o be_v sin_n but_o because_o it_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o sin_n and_o come_v also_o of_o sin_n but_o how_o do_v he_o prove_v that_o out_o of_o any_o thing_n that_o saint_n paul_n have_v say_v in_o those_o place_n first_o because_o saint_n paul_n say_v let_v not_o sin_n reign_v in_o 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