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A71279 A compendious discourse on the Eucharist with two appendixes. R. H., 1609-1678. 1688 (1688) Wing W3440A; ESTC R22619 186,755 234

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accidentia_fw-la abessent_fw-la nullum_fw-la esset_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n signum_fw-la sensibile_fw-la proinde_fw-la nullum_fw-la esset_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la so_o estius_n eucharistia_n constat_fw-la ex_fw-la pane_fw-la tanquam_fw-la materia_fw-la quadam_fw-la partim_fw-la transeunte_fw-la partim_fw-la remanente_fw-la transeunte_fw-la quidem_fw-la secundum_fw-la substantiam_fw-la remanente_fw-la vero_fw-la secundum_fw-la accidentia_fw-la in_fw-la quibus_fw-la tota_fw-la substantiae_fw-la vis_fw-la &_o operatio_fw-la nihilominus_fw-la perseverat_fw-la hence_o they_o allow_v of_o that_o expression_n of_o irenaeus_n where_o he_o say_v eucharistiam_fw-la ex_fw-la duabus_fw-la rebus_fw-la terrena_fw-la &_o coelesti_fw-la compositam_fw-la esse_fw-la and_o s._n gregory_n in_o hoc_fw-la mysterio_fw-la summa_fw-la imis_fw-la sociari_fw-la terrena_fw-la coelestibus_fw-la jungi_fw-la unum_fw-la ex_fw-la visibilibus_fw-la &_o invisibilibus_fw-la fieri_fw-la 2_o nay_o further_o they_o allow_v 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uti_fw-la una_fw-la enim_fw-la curo_fw-la domini_fw-la nostri_fw-la jesus_n christi_fw-la &_o unus_fw-la calix_fw-la in_o unionem_fw-la sanguinis_fw-la ipsius_fw-la unum_fw-la altar_n &_o unus_fw-la episcopus_fw-la cum_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o other_o in_o ep._n ad_fw-la smyrnaeos_fw-la quid_fw-la enim_fw-la juvat_fw-la i_o quis_fw-la si_fw-la i_o laudat_fw-la dominum_fw-la antem_fw-la meum_fw-la blasphemat_fw-la non_fw-la confitens_fw-la ipsum_fw-la carniferum_fw-la who_o say_v also_o secundum_fw-la videri_fw-la ipsum_fw-la passum_fw-la esse_fw-la before_o this_o afterward_o it_o follow_v ab_fw-la eucharistia_n &_o oratione_fw-la recedunt_fw-la theodoret_n dial_n 3._o quote_v it_o oblatione_fw-la recedunt_fw-la propter_fw-la non_fw-la confiteri_fw-la eucharistiam_fw-la carnem_fw-la esse_fw-la salvatoris_fw-la nostri_fw-la jesus_n christi_fw-la pro_fw-la peccatis_fw-la nostris_fw-la passam_fw-la quam_fw-la benignitate_fw-la pater_fw-la resuscitavit_fw-la 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mutavit_fw-la in_o vinum_fw-la etc._n etc._n &_o non_fw-la erit_fw-la dignus_fw-la cvi_fw-la credamus_fw-la quod_fw-la vinum_fw-la in_o sanguinem_fw-la transmutavit_fw-la quare_fw-la cum_fw-la omni_fw-la certitudine_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la christi_fw-la sumamus_fw-la nam_fw-la sub_fw-la specie_fw-la panis_fw-la datur_fw-la ibi_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sub_fw-la specie_fw-la vini_fw-la datur_fw-la sanguis_fw-la cyril_n hieros_n benedictione_n etiam_fw-la natura_fw-la ipsa_fw-la mutatur_fw-la natura_fw-la i.e._n of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n sermo_fw-la ergo_fw-la christi_fw-la qui_fw-la potuit_fw-la ex_fw-la nihilo_fw-la facere_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la erat_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la be_v quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_fw-la id_fw-la mutare_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la erant_fw-la non_fw-la minus_fw-la est_fw-la novas_fw-la rebus_fw-la dare_v quam_fw-la mutare_fw-la naturas_fw-la ambr._n sermo_n christi_fw-la immutat_fw-la quando_fw-la vult_fw-la instituta_fw-la naturae_fw-la apply_v to_o the_o eucharist_n as_o if_o something_o in_o nature_n be_v there_o change_v ambr._n de_fw-fr sacr._n l._n 4._o c._n 4._o haec_fw-la tribuit_fw-la virtute_fw-la benedictionis_fw-la in_o corpus_fw-la suum_fw-la rerum_fw-la quae_fw-la videntur_fw-la i.e._n panis_fw-la &_o vini_fw-la naturam_fw-la mutans_fw-la greg._n nyss_n invisibilis_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la visibiles_fw-la creaturas_fw-la in_o substantiam_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la verbo_fw-la svo_fw-la secreta_fw-la potestate_fw-la immutat_fw-la ante_fw-la quam_fw-la invocatione_n svi_fw-la nominis_fw-la consecretur_fw-la substantia_fw-la illic_fw-la est_fw-la panis_fw-la &_o vini_fw-la post_fw-la verbum_fw-la autem_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguis_fw-la est_fw-la christi_fw-la quid_fw-la mirum_fw-la autem_fw-la si_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la verbo_fw-la creare_fw-la potuit_fw-la possit_fw-la creata_fw-la convertere_fw-la etc._n etc._n caesarius_n arelat_n quote_v by_o blondel_n p._n 69._o ne_fw-la ergo_fw-la consideres_fw-la tanquam_fw-la nudum_fw-la panem_fw-la &_o nudum_fw-la vinum_fw-la est_fw-la enim_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguis_fw-la christi_fw-la secundum_fw-la ipsius_fw-la domini_fw-la verba_fw-la quamvis_fw-la enim_fw-la sensus_fw-la hoc_fw-la tibi_fw-la suggerit_fw-la tamen_fw-la fides_fw-la te_fw-la confirmet_fw-la ne_fw-la ex_fw-la gustu_fw-la rem_fw-la judices_fw-la hoc_fw-la sciens_fw-la &_o pro_fw-la certissimo_fw-la habens_fw-la panem_fw-la hunc_fw-la qui_fw-la videtur_fw-la a_o nobis_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la panem_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la gustus_fw-la panem_fw-la esse_fw-la sentiat_fw-la sed_fw-la esse_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la etc._n etc._n cyr._n hier._n carech_n 4._o mystag_n here_o observe_v that_o the_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n be_v apply_v not_o only_o to_o the_o receiver_n but_o to_o the_o element_n else_o why_o shall_v the_o father_n press_v the_o mistake_n and_o error_n of_o sense_n about_o the_o element_n for_o what_o protestant_a warn_v his_o scholar_n of_o a_o fallacy_n of_o their_o sense_n in_o the_o eucharist_n chrysost_n in_o mat._n hom._n 83._o credamus_fw-la ubique_fw-la deo_fw-la nec_fw-la repugnemus_fw-la ei_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la sensui_fw-la &_o cogitationi_fw-la nostrae_fw-la absurdum_fw-la esse_fw-la videatur_fw-la quod_fw-la dicit_fw-la quoniam_fw-la ergo_fw-la ille_fw-la dixit_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la etc._n etc._n num_fw-la vides_fw-la panem_fw-la num_fw-la vinum_fw-la num_fw-la sicut_fw-la reliqui_fw-la cibi_fw-la in_o secessum_fw-la vadunt_fw-la absit_fw-la ne_fw-la cogite_n quemadmodum_fw-la enim_fw-la si_fw-la cera_fw-la igni_fw-la adhibita_fw-la illi_fw-la assimilatur_fw-la nihil_fw-la substantiae_fw-la remanet_fw-la nihil_fw-la superfluit_fw-la sic_fw-la &_o hic_fw-la puta_fw-la mysteria_fw-la consumi_fw-la corporis_fw-la substantia_fw-la chrys_n hom._n de_fw-fr euch._n in_o encoeniis_fw-la forte_n dicas_fw-la aliud_fw-la video_fw-la quomodo_fw-la tu_fw-la mihi_fw-la 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in_o coena_fw-la retinere_fw-la &_o defendere_fw-la &_o si_fw-la quid_fw-la nobis_fw-la cum_fw-la veer_fw-la pit_n &_o doctis_fw-la fratribus_fw-la controversiae_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-fr de_fw-fr re_fw-mi ipsa_fw-la sed_fw-la de_fw-la praesentiae_fw-la modo_fw-la duntaxat_fw-la qui_fw-la soli_fw-la deo_fw-la cognitus_fw-la est_fw-la &_o a_o nobis_fw-la creditur_fw-la disceptare_fw-la etc._n etc._n hold_v they_o not_o here_o the_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n cum_fw-la symbolis_fw-la last_o mr._n hooker_n 5._o l._n 67._o sect_n affirm_v even_o of_o the_o sacramentary_n and_o the_o first_o opinion_n that_o those_o who_o read_v their_o book_n shall_v find_v that_o they_o grant_v the_o holy_a mystery_n instrumental_o both_o to_o make_v we_o partaker_n of_o that_o grace_n of_o that_o body_n and_o blood_n which_o be_v give_v for_o the_o life_n of_o the_o world_n and_o beside_o also_o to_o impart_v unto_o we_o in_o true_a and_o real_a though_o mystical_a manner_n the_o very_a person_n 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continetur_fw-la sub_fw-la pane_fw-la consecrato_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la make_v the_o article_n hoc_fw-la supponere_fw-la confuse_v to_o use_v bellarmin_n term_n pro_fw-la eo_fw-la quod_fw-la continetur_fw-la sub_fw-la pane_fw-la as_o the_o four_o opinion_n make_v it_o supponere_fw-la confuse_v pro_fw-la eo_fw-la quod_fw-la continetur_fw-la sub_fw-la speciebus_fw-la and_o to_o show_v the_o understanding_n of_o those_o word_n hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la after_o this_o manner_n to_o be_v very_o proper_a they_o exemplify_v in_o some_o like_o ordinary_a phrase_n so_o de_fw-fr dolio_fw-la vini_fw-la recte_fw-la dicimus_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la vinum_fw-la speak_v only_o of_o the_o thing_n contain_v so_o de_fw-fr marsupio_fw-la pleno_fw-la pecuniis_fw-la recte_fw-la dicitur_fw-la hae_fw-la sunt_fw-la pecuniae_fw-la so_o demonstrando_fw-la vestes_fw-la sub_fw-la quibus_fw-la est_fw-la petrus_n we_o say_v hoc_fw-la or_o hic_fw-la est_fw-la petrus_n nam_fw-la abstrahentium_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la mendacium_fw-la now_o some_o hold_v this_o conjunction_n of_o christ_n body_n with_o the_o element_n ante_fw-la usum_fw-la in_o mensa_fw-la present_o after_o consecration_n other_o perhaps_o the_o better_a to_o avoid_v pretence_n of_o adoration_n or_o of_o reservation_n of_o the_o sacrament_n only_o in_o the_o use_n and_o act_n of_o receive_v in_o over_o fidelium_fw-la again_o some_o to_o make_v this_o presence_n seem_v more_o certain_a and_o more_o conceivable_a hold_v a_o ubiquity_n of_o christ_n body_n not_o only_o a_o presence_n then_o and_o there_o but_o always_o every_o where_o by_o reason_n of_o its_o hypostatical_a union_n to_o the_o ubiquitary_a deity_n only_a lest_o we_o may_v say_v we_o receive_v it_o as_o well_o then_o in_o all_o other_o bread_n state_v that_o though_o it_o be_v ubique_fw-la yet_o non_fw-la posse_fw-la ubique_fw-la capi_fw-la sed_fw-la solum_fw-la in_o ea_fw-la re_fw-la quam_fw-la christus_fw-la ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la instituit_fw-la instituit_fw-la iv_o the_o four_o opinion_n yet_o transcend_v this_o except_o in_o the_o point_n of_o ubiquity_n and_o affirm_v the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n with_o transubstantiation_n 4._o real_a presence_n with_o the_o symbol_n by_o transubstantiation_n or_o under_o the_o sign_n mean_v by_o they_o only_o the_o accident_n or_o property_n or_o all_o that_o be_v any_o way_n to_o be_v perceive_v by_o sight_n or_o any_o other_o sense_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o the_o wine_n which_o accident_n they_o affirm_v still_o to_o remain_v but_o hold_v from_o the_o most_o proper_a sense_n as_o to_o they_o seem_v of_o the_o solemn_a word_n of_o the_o institution_n hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la &c_n &c_n a_o conversion_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o they_o into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n conuersio_fw-la totius_fw-la substantiae_fw-la conc._n trid._n sess_v 13.4_o c._n which_o seem_v to_o be_v so_o punctual_o express_v because_o of_o those_o who_o all_o hold_v christ_n corporal_a presence_n some_o there_o be_v that_o hold_v the_o substantial_a form_n of_o bread_n change_v but_o not_o the_o matter_n other_o the_o matter_n but_o not_o the_o form_n other_o again_o that_o hold_v no_o total_a substantial_a conversion_n of_o the_o bread_n at_o all_o but_o a_o impanation_n or_o hypostatical_a union_n of_o christ_n with_o the_o bread_n whereby_o it_o become_v his_o body_n corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la non_fw-la carneum_fw-la but_o panaceum_fw-la such_o as_o there_o be_v with_o the_o humane_a nature_n in_o his_o incarnation_n say_v panem_fw-la a_o christo_fw-la fieri_fw-la corpus_fw-la suum_fw-la non_fw-la mutando_fw-la vel_fw-la destruendo_fw-la panem_fw-la sed_fw-la assumendo_fw-la ad_fw-la personam_fw-la svam_fw-la now_o this_o conversion_n of_o the_o substance_n be_v think_v fit_a in_o latter_a time_n to_o be_v express_v by_o the_o word_n transubstantiation_n as_o a_o diminutive_a to_o conversion_n for_o whereas_o conversion_n of_o the_o bread_n may_v be_v understand_v either_o of_o it_o with_o all_o its_o property_n and_o accident_n or_o only_o of_o the_o substance_n thereof_o and_o not_o of_o the_o rest_n therefore_o to_o express_v this_o distinctive_o the_o word_n transubstantiation_n be_v use_v primi_fw-la authores_fw-la huius_fw-la sententiae_fw-la finxerunt_fw-la conversionem_fw-la physicam_fw-la simplicem_fw-la panis_fw-la &_o vini_fw-la in_o corpus_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la christi_fw-la quam_fw-la posteriores_fw-la romani_fw-la &_o scholastici_fw-la defendere_fw-la ut_fw-la possint_fw-la manentibus_fw-la accidentibus_fw-la panis_fw-la &_o vini_fw-la commenti_fw-la sunt_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d seu_fw-la transubstantiationem_fw-la casp_n peucerus_n hist_o pag._n 527._o compare_v with_o transubstantiation_n that_o expression_n of_o the_o greek_n in_o their_o answer_n to_o claudius_n cardinal_n of_o guise_n credimus_fw-la panem_fw-la in_o christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la &c_n &c_n ita_fw-la mutari_fw-la ut_fw-la neque_fw-la panis_fw-la neque_fw-la substantiae_fw-la ipsius_fw-la accidentia_fw-la maneant_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o divinam_fw-la substantiam_fw-la transelemententur_fw-la and_o transubstantiation_n say_v the_o least_o of_o the_o two_o but_o here_o note_v that_o though_o council_n have_v define_v a_o conversion_n of_o the_o whole_a substance_n yet_o since_o such_o a_o conversion_n there_o may_v be_v many_o several_a way_n see_v those_o reckon_v up_o in_o field_n append._n to_o 3._o lib._n 17._o cap._n the_o particular_a manner_n they_o have_v no_o way_n determine_v and_o the_o roman_a doctor_n remain_v in_o their_o opinion_n divide_v fatemur_fw-la say_v dr._n hold_v the_o resol_n fid_fw-we 2._o l._n 4_o c._n hujusmodi_fw-la supernaturalis_fw-la conversionis_fw-la substantialis_fw-la modum_fw-la nos_fw-la penitus_fw-la latere_fw-la &c._n &c._n and_o bellar._n in_o his_o recognit_n lib._n euchar._n after_o his_o discourse_v of_o conversion_n adductive_a and_o productive_a &c_n &c_n conclude_v quicquid_fw-la sit_fw-la de_fw-la modis_fw-la loquendi_fw-la illud_fw-la tenendum_fw-la est_fw-la conversionem_fw-la panis_fw-la &_o vini_fw-la in_o corpus_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la domini_fw-la esse_fw-la substantialem_fw-la sed_fw-la arcanam_fw-la &_o ineffabilem_fw-la &_o nullis_fw-la naturalibus_fw-la conversionibus_fw-la per_fw-la omne_fw-la similem_fw-la etc._n etc._n whilst_o the_o three_o opinion_n therefore_o interpret_v our_o saviour_n word_n of_o the_o institution_n thus_o hic_fw-la panis_fw-la continet_fw-la sub_fw-la se_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la or_o hoc_fw-la quod_fw-la continetur_fw-la sub_fw-la pane_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la the_o
christus_fw-la the_o terra_fw-la terram_fw-la quia_fw-la caro_fw-la de_fw-la terra_fw-la est_fw-la &_o de_fw-fr carne_fw-la mariae_fw-la accepit_fw-la carnem_fw-la &_o quia_fw-la in_o ipsa_fw-la carne_fw-la hic_fw-la ambulavit_fw-la &_o ipsam_fw-la carnem_fw-la jam_fw-la manducandam_fw-la nobis_fw-la ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la dedit_fw-la nemo_fw-la autem_fw-la carnem_fw-la illam_fw-la manducat_fw-la nisi_fw-la prius_fw-la adoraverit_fw-la inventum_fw-la est_fw-la quemadmodum_a adoretur_fw-la tale_n scabellum_fw-la pedum_fw-la domim_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la non_fw-la peccemus_fw-la adorando_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la adorando_fw-la peccemus_fw-la which_o matter_n some_o think_v he_o borrow_v from_o s._n ambrose_n upon_o the_o same_o psalm_n and_o text_n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-it 3._o l._n 12._o c._n adorate_fw-la scabellum_fw-la pedum_fw-la ejus_fw-la itaque_fw-la per_fw-la scabellum_fw-la terra_fw-la intelligitur_fw-la per_fw-la terram_fw-la autem_fw-la caro_fw-la christi_fw-la quam_fw-la hodie_fw-la quoque_fw-la in_o mysteriis_fw-la adoramus_fw-la &_o quam_fw-la apostoli_fw-la in_o domino_fw-la jesus_n adorarunt_fw-la like_o to_o this_o be_v many_o other_o say_n of_o s._n austin_n psal_n 48.33_o 21._o and_o ep._n 120._o ad_fw-la honorat_fw-la 27._o c._n expound_v that_o in_o 21._o psal_n 29._o v._n manducaverunt_fw-la &_o adoraverunt_fw-la omnes_fw-la divites_fw-la terrae_fw-la he_o say_v &_o ipsi_fw-la divites_fw-la per_fw-la divites_fw-la terrae_fw-la say_v he_o before_o hoc_fw-la loco_fw-la superbi_fw-la intelligendi_fw-la sunt_fw-la adducti_fw-la sunt_fw-la ad_fw-la mensam_fw-la domini_fw-la &_o accipiunt_fw-la de_fw-la corpore_fw-la &_o sanguine_fw-la ejus_fw-la sed_fw-la adorant_fw-la tantum_fw-la non_fw-la etiam_fw-la saturantur_fw-la allude_v to_o 26._o v._n edent_fw-la pauperes_fw-la i._n e._n humiles_fw-la say_v he_o &_o saturabuntur_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la imitantur_fw-la here_o he_o say_v the_o wicked_a do_v adorare_fw-la that_o 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necessaria_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la a_o calvino_n &_o illius_fw-la ●●quacibu●_n dicuntur_fw-la manifestam_fw-la in_o se_fw-la continere_fw-la tum_fw-la vanitatem_fw-la tum_fw-la absurditatem_fw-la &_o ex_fw-la isto_fw-la fonte_fw-la emanasse_n ingentem_fw-la illam_fw-la idololatriam_fw-la etc._n etc._n etc._n the_o same_n say_v the_o socinian_o see_v volkelius_n and_o i_o think_v rive●_n in_o his_o controversy_n with_o grotius_n be_v of_o the_o same_o opinion_n with_o the_o remonstrant_n at_o least_o much_o differ_v from_o dr._n tailor_n for_o that_o say_n of_o the_o conc._n trid._n sacramentaliter_fw-la praesens_fw-la salvator_n noster_fw-la substantia_fw-la sva_fw-la nobis_fw-la adest_fw-la allow_v in_o some_o sense_n by_o the_o doctor_n he_o maintain_v to_o contradict_v quia_fw-la quod_fw-la sacramentaliter_fw-la praesens_fw-la est_fw-la say_v he_o non_fw-la est_fw-la substantia_fw-la sva_fw-la praesens_fw-la nec_fw-la contra_fw-la animad_fw-la p._n 85._o and_o again_o examen_fw-la p._n 45._o si_fw-mi corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la in_o sacramento_n quantitative_a i._n e._n corporal_o or_o secundum_fw-la modum_fw-la corporis_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la omnino_fw-la quia_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la ubicunque_fw-la est_fw-la quantum_fw-la est_fw-la aut_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la indeed_o i_o have_v often_o wonder_v see_v that_o something_o more_o than_o they_o willing_o grant_v seem_v necessary_o to_o follow_v upon_o it_o why_o so_o many_o of_o the_o reform_a writer_n remain_v not_o content_a with_o a_o virtual_a presence_n which_o be_v maintain_v by_o they_o to_o be_v sufficient_a for_o salvation_n but_o concur_v so_o much_o in_o assert_v a_o real_a and_o substantial_a i_o guess_v not_o only_o the_o punctual_a and_o fix_a expression_n of_o the_o scripture_n as_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n in_o so_o many_o relation_n thereof_o not_o only_o in_o the_o gospel_n but_o in_o st._n paul_n epistle_n to_o the_o corinthian_n be_v so_o 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corpora_fw-la nostra_fw-la percipientia_fw-la eucharistiam_fw-la jam_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la corruptibilia_fw-la sed_fw-la spem_fw-la resurrectionis_fw-la habentia_fw-la irenaeus_n neither_o see_v i_o any_o reason_n for_o rivet_n expression_n corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la affi●it_fw-la corpus_fw-la per_fw-la animam_fw-la nor_o for_o that_o of_o dr._n tailor_n p._n 131._o if_o he_o mean_v that_o the_o soul_n receive_v christ_n body_n more_o immediate_o than_o the_o body_n do_v for_o though_o without_o faith_n which_o be_v a_o act_n of_o the_o soul_n christ_n body_n be_v not_o receive_v at_o least_o receive_v profit_v not_o yet_o where_o faith_n be_v christ_n body_n be_v receive_v as_o well_o and_o as_o immediate_o by_o our_o body_n as_o by_o our_o soul_n and_o nourish_v and_o vivifi_v equal_o but_o spiritual_o both_o see_v what_o bishop_n forbes_n say_v euchar._n 1._o l._n 1._o c._n 27._o s._n verum_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la non_fw-la tantum_fw-la animae_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la corpori_fw-la nostr●_fw-la spiritualiter_fw-la tamen_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la corporaliter_fw-la exhibetur_fw-la &_o sane_fw-la al●o_fw-la ac_fw-la diverso_fw-la nobis_fw-la &_o propinquiori_fw-la modo_fw-la licet_fw-la occulto_fw-la quam_fw-la per_fw-la solam_fw-la fidem_fw-la fides_n qua_fw-la proprie_fw-la christi_fw-la caro_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n spiritualiter_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la incorporaliter_fw-la manducatur_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la ea_fw-la sola_fw-la qua_fw-la christus_fw-la creditur_fw-la mortuus_fw-la pro_fw-la peccatis_fw-la nostris_fw-la &c_n &c_n ea_fw-la enim_fw-la fides_fw-la praesupponitur_fw-la etc._n etc._n sed_fw-la ea_fw-la fides_fw-la est_fw-la qua_fw-la creditur_fw-la verbo_fw-la christi_fw-la dicentis_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la credere_fw-la enim_fw-la christum_fw-la ibi_fw-la esse_fw-la praesentem_fw-la etiam_fw-la carne_fw-la vivificatrice_n &_o desiderare_fw-la eam_fw-la sumere_fw-la nimirum_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la spiritualiter_fw-la &_o recte_fw-la eam_fw-la manducare_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n sect._n 25._o proinde_fw-la male_a docetur_fw-la a_o multis_fw-la protestantibus_fw-la hanc_fw-la praesentiam_fw-la &_o communicationem_fw-la per_fw-la fidem_fw-la effici_fw-la fides_n magis_fw-la proprie_fw-la dicitur_fw-la accipere_fw-la &_o apprehendere_fw-la quam_fw-la praestare_fw-la verbum_fw-la dei_fw-la &_o promissio_fw-la cvi_fw-la fides_fw-la nostra_fw-la nititur_fw-la praesentia_fw-la reddit_fw-la quae_fw-la promittit_fw-la non_fw-la nostra_fw-la fides_fw-la it_o be_v not_o faith_n that_o confer_v christ_n body_n though_o by_o the_o faithful_a it_o be_v only_o worthy_o or_o as_o they_o say_v only_o receive_v but_o receive_v equal_o and_o immediate_o both_o by_o the_o soul_n and_o body_n whether_o this_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v disjoin_v from_o as_o they_o think_v or_o conjoin_v with_o the_o element_n yet_o whilst_o this_o second_o opinion_n seem_v to_o hold_v no_o presence_n at_o all_o to_z or_o with_o the_o sign_n but_o to_o the_o receiver_n they_o only_o make_v the_o sign_n to_o be_v as_o well_o as_o i_o can_v understand_v they_o after_o consecration_n sanctify_a instrument_n upon_o receipt_n of_o which_o by_o those_o who_o believe_v god_n give_v the_o other_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o his_o son_n as_o also_o in_o baptism_n upon_o receive_v the_o water_n god_n give_v the_o spirit_n yet_o i_o say_v some_o other_o expression_n of_o
father_n to_o have_v hold_v a_o substantial_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n with_o the_o symbol_n body_n answer_n of_o the_o reform_a to_o these_o argument_n 1._o concern_v the_o change_n of_o the_o element_n into_o christ_n body_n something_o be_v say_v both_o by_o mr._n blondel_n and_o dr._n taylor_n and_o other_o but_o what_o seem_v to_o i_o no_o way_n satisfactory_a to_o the_o first_o second_o and_o three_o they_o say_v but_o i_o will_v wish_v you_o to_o peruse_v their_o own_o book_n lest_o their_o answer_n may_v receive_v some_o wrong_n by_o my_o relation_n or_o something_o in_o they_o more_o considerable_a be_v omit_v by_o i_o they_o say_v then_o that_o where_o the_o father_n say_v 1._o that_o the_o bread_n after_o consecration_n be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n 2._o that_o of_o the_o bread_n by_o consecration_n it_o make_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n 3._o that_o after_o consecration_n it_o cease_v to_o be_v bread._n 4._o or_o that_o it_o be_v not_o only_a bread._n 5._o that_o the_o nature_n and_o substance_n of_o bread_n by_o consecration_n be_v change_v into_o christ_n body_n etc._n etc._n they_o mean_v α_n only_o 1._o be_v a_o sign_n or_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n body_n or_o his_o body_n in_o sacrament_n or_o as_o dr._n taylor_n p._n 266_o the_o bread_n be_v very_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n true_o his_o flesh_n and_o the_o wine_n true_o his_o blood_n how_o by_o a_o change_n of_o condition_n of_o sanctification_n and_o usage_n 2._o that_o of_o bread_n be_v make_v the_o sacrament_n of_o his_o body_n 3._o that_o it_o cease_v to_o be_v bread_n i._n e._n common_a bread._n 4._o that_o it_o be_v not_o only_a bread_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o grace_n of_o consecration_n add_v to_o its_o nature_n 5._o that_o the_o nature_n of_o it_o be_v change_v from_o simple_a bread_n to_o pain_n benit_fw-la or_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o that_o it_o acquire_v a_o new_a essence_n i.e._n the_o essence_n of_o a_o sacrament_n see_v such_o solution_n in_o blondel_n p._n 64._o etc._n etc._n in_o his_o margin_n and_o p._n 222_o 224._o so_o in_o his_o explication_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o mass_n p._n 452._o see_v likewise_o p._n 470._o where_o it_o petition_n ut_fw-la oblatio_fw-la fiat_fw-la nobis_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguis_fw-la dilectissimi_fw-la silij_fw-la tui_fw-la domini_fw-la nostri_fw-la jesus_n christi_fw-la he_o expound_v corpse_n etc._n etc._n en_fw-fr sacrament_n again_o where_o it_o ut_fw-la quotquot_fw-la ex_fw-la hac_fw-la altaris_fw-la participatione_fw-la sacrosanctum_fw-la filii_fw-la tui_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la sumpserimus_fw-la etc._n etc._n he_o interpret_v prendron_n le_fw-fr sacrament_n du_fw-fr sacro-sainct_n corpse_n de_fw-fr ton_fw-fr fils_fw-fr qui_fw-fr est_fw-fr ce_fw-fr mesme_fw-fr sacro-sainct_n corpse_n en_fw-fr representation_n &_o signification_n where_o note_n also_o that_o he_o hold_v not_o any_o substantial_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n to_o the_o worthy_a receiver_n in_o which_o thing_n those_o of_o the_o second_o opinion_n i_o think_v will_v not_o consent_v to_o he_o last_o they_o say_v that_o by_o change_n of_o the_o element_n the_o father_n mean_v no_o more_o than_o a_o accidental_a sacramental_a conversion_n a_o change_n of_o condition_n of_o sanctification_n and_o usage_n and_o efficacy_n as_o a_o table_n by_o consecration_n be_v change_v into_o a_o altar_n a_o house_n into_o a_o church_n a_o man_n into_o a_o priest_n as_o the_o water_n of_o the_o river_n into_o the_o laver_n of_o regeneration_n see_v this_o in_o dr._n taylor_n p._n 270._o and_o the_o like_a in_o blondel_n p._n 472._o bref_n par_fw-fr tout_fw-fr ce_fw-fr pain_n est_fw-fr apellê_fw-la saint_n de_fw-fr mesme_fw-fr que_fw-fr le_fw-fr calice_n la_o table_n la_o palatine_n sont_fw-fr apeller_n saint_n ascavoir_fw-fr entant_a qu'il_v servant_n a_fw-fr une_fw-fr usage_n saint_n etc._n etc._n without_o any_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n either_o to_o they_o or_o instead_o of_o they_o see_v blond_n p._n 156_o 157_o 174_o etc._n etc._n tailor_n p._n 266._o now_o though_o as_o it_o appear_v i_o think_v above_o the_o expression_n of_o the_o father_n for_o such_o a_o change_n of_o the_o symbol_n as_o that_o after_o consecration_n the_o substance_n of_o christ_n body_n be_v there_o with_o they_o be_v so_o full_a as_o it_o be_v hard_a to_o say_v such_o a_o thing_n more_o plain_o than_o they_o do_v yet_o that_o they_o be_v not_o in_o such_o a_o sense_n to_o be_v understand_v they_o urge_v many_o thing_n b_o first_o that_o we_o must_v not_o interpret_v they_o so_o as_o to_o make_v they_o contradict_v themselves_o or_o one_o another_o see_v blond_n p._n 158_o 232._o then_o they_o show_v that_o the_o same_o father_n that_o use_v these_o high_a expression_n yet_o cease_v not_o to_o call_v the_o element_n even_o after_o consecration_n image_n figure_n type_n similitude_n sign_n sacrament_n of_o the_o body_n etc._n etc._n representation_n memorial_n exemplar_n symbol_n corpustypicum_n &_o symbolicum_fw-la &_o mysticum_fw-la see_v many_o more_o blond_n c._n 4._o prop._n 8._o and_o taylor_n p._n 313._o &_o p._n 290._o where_o that_o expression_n of_o tertullian_n be_v much_o stand_v upon_o adv_o martion_n l._n 4._o c._n 40._o professus_fw-la itaque_fw-la se_fw-la concupiscentia_fw-la concupisse_n edere_fw-la pascha_fw-la ut_fw-la suum_fw-la indignum_fw-la enim_fw-la fuit_fw-la ut_fw-la quid_fw-la alienum_fw-la concupisceret_fw-la deus_fw-la acceptum_fw-la panem_fw-la &_o distributum_fw-la discipulis_fw-la corpus_fw-la suum_fw-la illum_fw-la fecit_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la dicendo_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la figura_fw-la corporis_fw-la mei_fw-la figura_fw-la autem_fw-la non_fw-la fuisset_fw-la nisi_fw-la veritatis_fw-la esset_fw-la corpus_fw-la caeterum_fw-la vacua_fw-la res_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la phantasma_n as_o martion_n contend_v christ_n body_n be_v figuram_fw-la capere_fw-la non_fw-la posset_n and_o say_v that_o they_o be_v christ_n body_n not_o proprie_fw-la but_o aliquo_fw-la modo_fw-la etc._n etc._n γ_n now_o idem_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la simile_n the_o sign_n can_v be_v the_o very_a thing_n signify_v by_o the_o sign_n nor_o the_o type_n figure_n the_o prototype_n or_o the_o truth_n see_v tayl._n p._n 318._o blond_n 207.210_o δ_n especial_o these_o place_n of_o s._n austin_n be_v much_o insist_v on_o by_o they_o 23._o ep._n ad_fw-la bonifacium_fw-la si_fw-mi enim_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la quandam_fw-la similitudinem_fw-la earum_fw-la rerum_fw-la quarum_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la sunt_fw-la non_fw-la haberent_fw-la omnino_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la non_fw-la essent_fw-la exit_fw-la hac_fw-la autem_fw-la similitudine_fw-la plerumque_fw-la etiam_fw-la ipsarum_fw-la rerum_fw-la nomina_fw-la accipiunt_fw-la sicut_fw-la ergo_fw-la secundum_fw-la quendam_fw-la modum_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la corporis_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la est_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la sanguinis_fw-la christi_fw-la sanguis_fw-la christi_fw-la est_fw-la ita_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la fidei_fw-la i._n e._n baptism_n fides_fw-la est_fw-la sicut_fw-la de_fw-la ipso_fw-la baptismo_fw-la apostolus_fw-la consepulti_fw-la inquit_fw-la sumus_fw-la christo_fw-la per_fw-la baptismum_fw-la in_o mortem_fw-la non_fw-la ait_fw-la sepulturam_fw-la significamus_fw-la sed_fw-la prorsus_fw-la ait_fw-la consepalti_fw-la sumus_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la ergo_fw-la tantae_fw-la rei_fw-la non_fw-la nisi_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la rei_fw-la vocabulo_fw-la nuncupatur_fw-la so_o in_o psal_n 33._o concio_fw-la 2._o ipse_fw-la se_fw-la portabat_fw-la quodammodo_fw-la cum_fw-la diceret_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la ζ._n in_o psal_n 98._o upon_o those_o word_n in_o st._n john_n verba_fw-la quae_fw-la locutus_fw-la sum_fw-la vobis_fw-la spiritus_fw-la est_fw-la &_o vita_fw-la spiritualiter_fw-la intelligite_fw-la quod_fw-la locutus_fw-la sum_fw-la non_fw-la hoc_fw-la corpus_fw-la quod_fw-la videtis_fw-la manducatisri_fw-la estis_fw-la &_o bibituri_fw-la illum_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la quem_fw-la fusuri_fw-la sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la i_o crucifigent_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la aliquod_fw-la vobis_fw-la commendavi_fw-la spiritualiter_fw-la intellectum_fw-la vivificabit_fw-la vos_fw-la etsi_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la illud_fw-la visibiliter_fw-la celebrari_fw-la oportet_fw-la tamen_fw-la invisibiliter_fw-la intelligi_fw-la de_fw-fr doctrina_fw-la christiana_n 3._o l._n 16._o c._n si_fw-la praeceptiva_fw-la locutio_fw-la est_fw-la aut_fw-la flagitium_fw-la aut_fw-la facinus_fw-la vetans_fw-la aut_fw-la utilitatem_fw-la aut_fw-la beneficentiam_fw-la jubens_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la figurata_fw-la si_fw-la autem_fw-la slagitium_fw-la aut_fw-la facinus_fw-la videtur_fw-la jubere_fw-la aut_fw-la utilitatem_fw-la &_o beneficentiam_fw-la vetare_fw-la figurata_fw-la est_fw-la nisi_fw-la manducaveritis_fw-la inquit_fw-la carnem_fw-la silij_fw-la hominis_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la biberitis_fw-la non_fw-la habebitis_fw-la vitam_fw-la in_o vobis_fw-la flagitium_fw-la vel_fw-la facinus_fw-la videtur_fw-la jubere_fw-la figura_fw-la est_fw-la ergo_fw-la praecipiens_fw-la passioni_fw-la domini_fw-la esse_fw-la communicandum_fw-la &_o suaviter_fw-la atque_fw-la utiliter_fw-la recondendum_fw-la in_o memoria_fw-la quod_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la caro_fw-la ejus_fw-la crucifixa_fw-la &_o vulnerata_fw-la sit_fw-la η_n to_o these_o they_o add_v some_o other_o place_n of_o st._n austin_n wherein_o he_o say_v the_o unworthy_a communicant_n receive_v the_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n body_n but_o not_o his_o body_n which_o argue_v the_o body_n at_o least_o not_o present_a with_o the_o symbol_n such_o that_o tract_n 26._o in_o johan_n qui_fw-la non_fw-la
partake_v more_o the_o virtue_n thereof_o than_o the_o only_a spiritual_a receiver_n but_o of_o this_o more_o anon_o as_o also_o the_o wicked_a incur_v more_o judgement_n by_o their_o unworthy_a reception_n of_o it_o than_o be_v it_o only_o of_o the_o bare_a representative_a thereof_o they_o thus_o be_v in_o a_o high_a manner_n rei_fw-la corporis_fw-la christi_fw-la in_o the_o apostle_n expression_n 1_o cor._n 9_o now_o s._n austin_n mean_v non_fw-la manducant_fw-la corpus_fw-la domini_fw-la spiritualiter_fw-la but_o if_o it_o seem_v still_o to_o some_o s._n augustine_n opinion_n that_o the_o wicked_a do_v no_o way_n at_o all_o receive_v the_o very_a body_n but_o only_o the_o sacrament_n thereof_o as_o understand_v only_o as_o represent_v it_o yet_o i_o see_v not_o with_o submission_n to_o better_a judgement_n that_o it_o must_v necessary_o infer_v that_o he_o hold_v not_o christ_n true_a body_n be_v before_o present_a with_o the_o symbol_n and_o offer_v to_o the_o wicked_a but_o only_o it_o by_o cease_v to_o be_v there_o for_o his_o body_n be_v only_o voluntary_o present_a and_o perhaps_o only_o in_o such_o case_n as_o this_o may_v desinere_fw-la ibi_fw-la esse_fw-la sicut_fw-la ante_fw-la consecrationem_fw-la ibi_fw-la non_fw-la erat_fw-la not_o to_o be_v receive_v at_o all_o by_o the_o wicked_a as_o many_o hold_v it_o not_o to_o be_v devour_v together_o with_o the_o consecrate_a element_n by_o beast_n &c_n &c_n neither_o in_o specie_fw-la propria_fw-la nor_o aliena_fw-la see_v before_o and_o estius_n give_v it_o the_o place_n of_o a_o argument_n 4._o scent_n 9_o distinct_a 3._o sect_n peccator_fw-la magis_fw-la est_fw-la deo_fw-la abominabilis_fw-la quam_fw-la animal_n brutum_fw-la multo_fw-la minus_fw-la igitur_fw-la peccator_fw-la sumit_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la to_o answer_v which_o he_o hold_v the_o opinion_n contrary_a to_o the_o other_o namely_o that_o a_o brutis_fw-la animalibus_fw-la etiam_fw-la sumitur_fw-la non_fw-la secundum_fw-la propriam_fw-la speciem_fw-la sed_fw-la secundum_fw-la species_n sacramentales_fw-la and_o see_v dr._n field_n append._n to_o the_o 3d._a book_n 17_o 18._o c._n quote_v out_o of_o waldensis_n tom._n 2._o de_fw-fr euchar._n 19_o c._n that_o many_o who_o affirm_v the_o bread_n to_o be_v change_v into_o christ_n body_n yet_o hold_v when_o unworthy_a man_n come_v to_o communicate_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n to_o cease_v to_o be_v present_a and_o when_o a_o wicked_a man_n be_v to_o receive_v it_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n to_o return_v &c_n &c_n why_o may_v not_o s._n augustine_n conceit_n be_v the_o same_o to_o ϑ_n beside_o that_o two_o council_n not_o long_o after_o one_o in_o the_o east_n another_o in_o the_o west_n oppose_v that_o of_o constantinople_n in_o this_o matter_n of_o the_o sacrament_n see_v hereafter_o i_o can_v say_v only_o this_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o oppose_v to_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d must_v not_o be_v take_v in_o such_o a_o sense_n as_o that_o upon_o consecration_n the_o element_n be_v not_o make_v divinum_fw-la corpus_fw-la or_o adoration_n not_o due_a to_o it_o for_o these_o two_o thing_n that_o council_n affirm_v as_o well_o as_o image_n and_o corpus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o for_o this_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a that_o follow_v say_v of_o those_o father_n of_o constantinople_n that_o huc_fw-la illucque_fw-la se_fw-la jactantes_fw-la inconstantia_fw-la &_o minime_fw-la firma_fw-la omne_fw-la sva_fw-la dogmata_fw-la asserunt_fw-la but_o why_o may_v not_o image_n here_o and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v oppose_v not_o to_o the_o verity_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o eucharist_n after_o some_o manner_n but_o only_o to_o its_o be_v there_o as_o former_o on_o earth_n that_o be_v after_o a_o natural_a manner_n for_o it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o eucharist_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o eucharist_n so_o by_o other_o father_n be_v call_v only_o a_o image_n of_o it_o and_o why_o may_v not_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a mistake_n the_o sense_n of_o this_o council_n in_o one_o point_n as_o well_o as_o mr._n blond_n p._n 411_o grant_v that_o of_o franckfort_n do_v misunderstand_v it_o in_o another_o to_o μ_n see_v what_o be_v say_v to_o γ_n to_o λ_n which_o seem_v more_o material_a than_o the_o rest_n with_o which_o i_o shall_v consider_v also_o χ_n their_o reply_n to_o the_o 3d_o consideration_n about_o sacrifice_n first_o i_o say_v if_o there_o be_v find_v so_o much_o not_o only_o in_o the_o ancient_a missal_n but_o those_o now_o use_v eucharist_n concern_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o eucharist_n that_o make_v against_o any_o substantial_a conversion_n of_o the_o element_n into_o christ_n body_n and_o if_o the_o offer_v the_o eucharist_n therein_o as_o a_o sacrifice_n be_v only_a commemorative_n of_o that_o upon_o the_o cross_n in_o which_o sense_n the_o reform_a also_o allow_v a_o sacrifice_n without_o involve_v any_o special_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n with_o the_o element_n how_o come_v it_o to_o pass_v that_o only_o the_o four_o opinion_n retain_v still_o the_o same_o form_n for_o the_o thing_n which_o be_v here_o object_v that_o be_v use_v in_o st._n ambrose_n day_n or_o if_o only_o use_v in_o the_o time_n of_o gregory_n the_o great_a yet_o than_o they_o grant_v there_o be_v yet_o no_o corruption_n in_o the_o doctrine_n concern_v the_o sacrament_n against_o who_o modern_a tenant_n these_o form_n make_v so_o much_o and_o that_o all_o the_o other_o three_o opinion_n have_v make_v new_a form_n to_o themselves_o and_o reject_v the_o old_a which_o they_o plead_v be_v so_o favourable_a unto_o they_o in_o do_v which_o thing_n luther_n be_v say_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr abroganda_fw-la missa_fw-la to_o object_n to_o himself_o magnum_fw-la est_fw-la certe_fw-la tot_fw-la saeculorum_fw-la consuetudini_fw-la tantae_fw-la multitudinis_fw-la sensui_fw-la tantorumque_fw-la authoritati_fw-la reluctari_fw-la tu_fw-la solus_fw-la sapit_fw-la totne_v errant_a universi_fw-la tanta_fw-la saecula_fw-la erraverunt_fw-la again_o how_o can_v we_o more_o justify_v their_o reverence_n to_o antiquity_n than_o in_o this_o thing_n that_o they_o have_v not_o take_v the_o boldness_n to_o correct_v or_o change_v or_o note_n in_o the_o daily_a and_o public_a service_n what_o make_v so_o much_o against_o their_o present_a opinion_n now_o to_o come_v close_o to_o the_o matter_n and_o to_o speak_v a_o little_a more_o full_o 1_o in_o answer_n to_o χ_n in_o what_o sense_n the_o eucharist_n be_v now_o or_o be_v ancient_o use_v as_o a_o sacrifice_n that_o that_o which_o follow_v may_v be_v more_o clear_v by_o it_o and_o that_o you_o may_v see_v whether_o there_o may_v be_v so_o just_a cause_n for_o that_o clamour_n that_o be_v make_v against_o it_o as_o injurious_a and_o derogate_a from_o the_o sacrifice_n upon_o the_o cross_n cross_n xxvi_o 1_o first_o it_o be_v confess_v as_o by_o the_o father_n it_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o father_n concern_v it_o so_o by_o those_o of_o the_o four_o opinion_n that_o the_o sacrifice_n make_v on_o the_o cross_n be_v the_o only_a sacrifice_n that_o by_o its_o own_o virtue_n take_v away_o sin_n and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o any_o more_o sacrifice_n for_o sin_n i._n e._n for_o make_v full_a satisfaction_n and_o pay_v the_o due_a debt_n for_o sin_n that_o therefore_o the_o sacrifice_n can_v nor_o need_v not_o to_o be_v iterate_v in_o this_o respect_n for_o than_o must_v christ_n often_o have_v suffer_v etc._n etc._n see_v heb._n 9.25_o 26_o 28._o see_v heb._n 10.10_o 12_o 14_o 18._o that_o therefore_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o eucharist_n be_v no_o new_a or_o divers_a sacrifice_n from_o that_o of_o the_o cross_n no_o suplement_n or_o completement_n of_o it_o but_o only_o representative_a or_o commemorative_a of_o it_o apply_v see_z the_o manner_z more_o explain_v hereafter_o unto_o particular_a man_n the_o remission_n purchase_v thereby_o as_o also_o all_o other_o fruit_n and_o benefit_n thereof_o which_o application_n as_o it_o be_v say_v to_o be_v obtain_v by_o christ_n present_a intercession_n now_o in_o heaven_n by_o faith_n by_o prayer_n by_o the_o sacrament_n etc._n etc._n in_o a_o several_a way_n without_o any_o suspicion_n of_o a_o diminution_n or_o injury_n do_v thereby_o to_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o passion_n so_o may_v it_o as_o safe_o be_v attribute_v to_o this_o continual_a sacrifice_n of_o christian_n the_o eucharist_n for_o this_o see_v conc._n trid._n s._n 22._o c._n 1._o dominum_fw-la nostrum_fw-la in_o coena_fw-la novissima_fw-la dilectae_fw-la sponsae_fw-la suae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la visibili_fw-la sicut_fw-la hominum_fw-la natura_fw-la exigit_fw-la reliquisse_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la quo_fw-la cruentum_fw-la illud_fw-la semel_fw-la in_o cruse_n peragendum_fw-la repraesentaretur_fw-la ejusque_fw-la memoria_fw-la in_o finem_fw-la usque_fw-la saeculi_fw-la permaneret_fw-la atque_fw-la illius_fw-la i._n e._n of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n salutaris_fw-la virtus_fw-la in_o remissionem_fw-la
ver._n 44_o 45_o 46._o p._n 493_o 494._o yet_o more_o plain_o from_o 1_o cor._n 10.21_o you_o can_v be_v partaker_n etc._n etc._n where_o these_o two_o table_n imply_v contrary_a covenant_n now_o here_o the_o table_n of_o devil_n be_v so_o call_v because_o it_o consist_v of_o viand_n offer_v to_o devil_n see_v ver_fw-la 20._o whereby_o those_o that_o eat_v thereof_o eat_v of_o the_o devil_n meat_n therefore_o the_o table_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v likewise_o call_v his_o table_n not_o because_o the_o lord_n ordain_v it_o but_o because_o it_o consist_v of_o viand_n offer_v to_o he_o in_o the_o same_o manner_n as_o the_o other_o of_o those_o offer_v to_o the_o devil_n p._n 519._o and_o therefore_o that_o he_o know_v not_o why_o st._n paul_n heb._n 13.15_o and_o st._n peter_n 1_o epist._n 2.5_o in_o the_o sacrifice_n mention_v there_o may_v not_o be_v understand_v to_o speak_v of_o the_o solemn_a and_o public_a service_n of_o christian_n wherein_o the_o passion_n of_o christ_n be_v commemorate_a p._n 487._o 4._o last_o he_o allow_v all_o the_o benefit_n and_o effect_n whether_o propitiatory_a or_o impetratory_n by_o the_o ancient_n attribute_v to_o this_o sacrifice_n grant_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n to_o have_v be_v offer_v to_o the_o divine_a majesty_n through_o christ_n commemorate_a in_o the_o symbol_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n as_o by_o a_o medium_n whereby_o to_o find_v acceptance_n and_o the_o representation_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o this_o christian_a service_n to_o have_v be_v right_o use_v as_o a_o rite_n whereby_o to_o find_v grace_n and_o favour_n with_o god._n only_o the_o presence_n of_o christ_n real_a body_n with_o the_o symbol_n in_o it_o he_o acknowledge_v not_o see_v p._n 499_o 500_o 501._o 5_o the_o father_n also_o affirm_v it_o to_o be_v and_o offer_v it_o as_o a_o sacrifice_n not_o only_o eucharistical_a or_o latrentical_a but_o also_o expiatory_a or_o propitiatory_a in_o the_o sense_n abovesaid_a for_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o impetratory_n of_o all_o sort_n of_o benefit_n not_o only_o spiritual_a but_o temporal_a and_o both_o these_o for_o all_o person_n according_a to_o their_o several_a capacity_n not_o only_o for_o those_o present_a receive_v the_o sacrament_n but_o for_o all_o those_o for_o who_o this_o oblation_n be_v make_v though_o absent_a though_o decease_v in_o euchristia_n sacramenti_fw-la susceptio_fw-la soli_fw-la sumenti_fw-la prodest_fw-la ut_fw-la autem_fw-la est_fw-la sacrificii_fw-la consummatio_fw-la prodest_fw-la illis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la pro_fw-la quibus_fw-la oblatum_n est_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la for_o wherever_o they_o hold_v prayer_n beneficial_a they_o hold_v this_o oblation_n or_o presentation_n to_o the_o father_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n and_o this_o solemn_a commemoration_n and_o repetition_n as_o it_o be_v of_o the_o precious_a death_n of_o his_o dear_a son_n for_o such_o person_n much_o more_o as_o be_v the_o most_o effectual_a and_o move_a kind_n of_o petition_n that_o can_v be_v make_v to_o he_o and_o therefore_o remembrance_n of_o the_o absent_a or_o decease_v at_o the_o altar_n namely_o when_o this_o sacrifice_n be_v offer_v be_v more_o especial_o desire_v than_o in_o other_o ordinary_a devotion_n non_fw-la ista_fw-la mandavit_fw-la nobis_fw-la say_v st._n austin_n of_o his_o mother_n sed_fw-la tantunmodo_fw-la memoriam_fw-la svi_fw-la ad_fw-la altar_n tuum_fw-la fieri_fw-la desideravit_fw-la confess_v l._n 9_o c._n 13._o for_o this_o see_v if_o you_o please_v the_o collection_n of_o place_n in_o the_o father_n in_o the_o controvertist_n see_v bellarm._n de_fw-fr missa_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 2_o 3._o see_v the_o quotation_n set_v down_o before_o see_v all_o the_o liturgy_n unanimous_o according_a in_o this_o form_n offerimus_fw-la tibi_fw-la pro_fw-la peccatis_fw-la pro_fw-la omnibus_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la vivis_fw-la atque_fw-la defunctis_fw-la pro_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la etc._n etc._n pro_fw-la pace_fw-la pro_fw-la copia_fw-la fructuum_fw-la etc._n etc._n see_v bishop_n forb_n de_fw-fr euch._n l._n 3._o c._n 2._o s_o 12._o sacrificium_fw-la autem_fw-la hoc_fw-la coenae_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la propitiatorium_fw-la esse_fw-la pro_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la quae_fw-la nobis_fw-la quotidie_fw-la committuntur_fw-la remissione_n etc._n etc._n sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la impetratorium_fw-la omnis_fw-la generis_fw-la beneficiorum_fw-la etc._n etc._n licet_fw-la scripturae_fw-la diserte_n &_o express_v non_fw-la dicant_fw-la patres_fw-la tamen_fw-la unanimi_fw-la consensu_fw-la scripturas_fw-la sic_fw-la intellexerunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n &_o liturgiae_fw-la omnes_fw-la veteres_fw-la etc._n etc._n &_o s_o 15._o nos_fw-la inre_fw-la certa_fw-la &_o clara_fw-la diutius_fw-la immorari_fw-la nolumus_fw-la 6_o last_o see_v dr._n taylor_n in_o his_o great_a exemplar_n p._n 3._o dise_z 18._o on_o the_o sacrament_n sect_n 7._o there_o he_o say_v the_o eucharist_n be_v a_o commemorative_n sacrifice_n as_o well_o as_o a_o sacrament_n in_o both_o capacity_n the_o benefit_n next_o to_o infinite_a whatsoever_o christ_n do_v at_o the_o institution_n the_o same_o he_o command_v the_o church_n to_o do_v etc._n etc._n and_o himself_o also_o do_v the_o same_o thing_n in_o heaven_n for_o we_o etc._n etc._n there_o he_o sit_v a_o highpriest_n continual_o and_o offer_v still_o the_o same_o one_o perfect_a sacrifice_n i._n e._n still_o represent_v it_o as_o have_v be_v once_o finish_v and_o consummate_v in_o order_n to_o perpetual_a and_o never-failing_a event_n and_o this_o also_o his_o minister_n do_v on_o earth_n as_o all_o the_o effect_n of_o grace_n be_v purchase_v for_o we_o on_o the_o cross_n but_o be_v apply_v to_o we_o by_o christ_n intercession_n in_o heaven_n so_o also_o they_o be_v promote_v by_o act_n of_o duty_n etc._n etc._n that_o we_o by_o represent_v that_o sacrifice_n may_v send_v up_o together_o with_o our_o prayer_n a_o instrument_n of_o their_o graciousness_n and_o acceptation_n as_o christ_n be_v a_o priest_n in_o heaven_n for_o ever_o and_o yet_o do_v not_o sacrifice_n himself_o afresh_o nor_o yet_o without_o a_o sacrifice_n can_v he_o be_v a_o priest_n but_o by_o a_o daily_a ministration_n and_o intercession_n represent_v his_o sacrifice_n to_o god_n and_o offer_v himself_o as_o sacrifice_v so_o he_o do_v upon_o earth_n by_o the_o ministry_n of_o his_o servant_n he_o be_v offer_v to_o god_n i._n e._n he_o be_v by_o prayer_n and_o the_o sacrament_n represent_v or_o offer_v up_o to_o god_n as_o sacrifice_v which_o in_o effect_n be_v apply_v of_o his_o death_n to_o the_o present_a and_o future_a necessity_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n it_o follow_v then_o that_o the_o celebration_n of_o this_o sacrifice_n be_v in_o its_o proportion_n a_o instrument_n of_o apply_v of_o the_o proper_a sacrifice_n to_o all_o the_o purpose_n which_o it_o first_o design_v it_o be_v ministerial_o and_o by_o application_n a_o instrument_n propitiatory_a it_o be_v eucharistical_a it_o be_v a_o act_n of_o homage_n and_o adoration_n it_o be_v impetratory_n obtain_v for_o the_o whole_a church_n all_o the_o benefit_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v now_o apply_v etc._n etc._n and_o its_o profit_n be_v enlarge_v not_o only_o to_o the_o person_n celebrate_v but_o to_o all_o to_o who_o they_o design_v it_o according_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o sacrifice_n and_o prayer_n and_o all_o such_o solemn_a action_n of_o religion_n thus_o much_o dr._n taylor_n conformable_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o age_n and_o practice_n in_o her_o public_a liturgy_n see_v the_o same_o in_o mede_n diatrib_n upon_o mal._n 1.11_o and_o it_o be_v worth_a your_o labour_n to_o see_v the_o alteration_n concern_v this_o matter_n which_o have_v be_v late_o make_v i_o suppose_v by_o some_o of_o the_o most_o prudent_a and_o learned_a father_n of_o the_o english_a church_n in_o the_o new_a liturgy_n provide_v for_o scotland_n tend_v much_o to_o the_o vindication_n of_o the_o use_n of_o the_o eucharist_n by_o way_n of_o sacrifice_n in_o the_o prayer_n for_o the_o whole_a state_n of_o christ_n church_n be_v put_v in_o these_o word_n we_o commend_v especial_o unto_o thy_o merciful_a goodness_n the_o congregation_n which_o be_v here_o assemble_v in_o thy_o name_n to_o celebrate_v the_o commemoration_n of_o the_o most_o precious_a death_n and_o sacrifice_n of_o thy_o son_n etc._n etc._n where_o and_o sacrifice_n be_v add_v de_fw-la novo_fw-la but_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o word_n be_v find_v in_o the_o former_a common-prayer-book_n of_o edw._n vi._n again_o in_o the_o prayer_n of_o consecration_n whereas_o it_o be_v say_v in_o all_o the_o former_a liturgy_n to_o continue_v a_o perpetual_a memory_n of_o that_o his_o precious_a death_n until_o his_o come_n again_o it_o be_v add_v here_o death_n and_o sacrifice_n until_o etc._n etc._n but_o chief_o after_o the_o prayer_n of_o consecration_n and_o before_o the_o administer_a of_o the_o 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the_o effect_n and_o benefit_n of_o christ_n body_n but_o we_o hold_v it_o real_o present_a in_o as_o much_o as_o it_o be_v real_o receive_v and_o we_o put_v in_o actual_a possession_n of_o it_o well_o then_o the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n be_v real_o present_a and_o receive_v answ_n no._n whatever_o we_o say_v we_o mean_v only_o a_o virtual_a presence_n which_o be_v indeed_o only_a a_o figurative_a presence_n and_o be_v own_v by_o the_o zwinglians_n and_o figurativist_n and_o which_o the_o reply_o seek_v to_o avoid_v real_o condemn_v as_o the_o church_n have_v do_v in_o those_o two_o or_o three_o who_o in_o the_o course_n of_o so_o many_o century_n set_v abroach_o such_o or_o the_o like_a opinion_n let_v the_o reply_o also_o take_v notice_n that_o zuinglius_fw-la do_v not_o deny_v eat_v by_o faith_n or_o in_o a_o mysterious_a and_o ineffable_a manner_n by_o which_o mist_n of_o word_n the_o reply_o in_o vain_a think_v to_o pass_v for_o orthodox_n pag._n 20._o stumble_v no_o it_o be_v the_o replier_n cavil_n the_o rubric_n say_v not_o as_o he_o pretend_v a_o true_a natural_a body_n can_v be_v &c_n &c_n but_o it_o be_v against_o the_o truth_n of_o a_o natural_a body_n to_o be_v &c_n &c_n which_o be_v not_o very_o good_a sense_n we_o not_o know_v what_o a_o false_a natural_a body_n be_v except_o the_o meaning_n of_o it_o be_v that_o this_o proposition_n a_o natural_a body_n can_v be_v in_o several_a place_n be_v not_o true_a which_o be_v the_o very_a same_o which_o our_o author_n say_v ineffable_a mystery_n the_o replier_n dare_v not_o deny_v that_o the_o divine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o well_o as_o those_o of_o the_o catholic_n church_n acknowledge_v the_o presence_n of_o our_o lord_n in_o the_o eucharist_n to_o be_v a_o mystery_n but_o say_v they_o acknowledge_v our_o union_n with_o christ_n to_o be_v a_o mystery_n which_o be_v not_o opposite_a to_o the_o other_o though_o indeed_o it_o be_v too_o mysterious_a to_o know_v how_o this_o union_n follow_v from_o his_o doctrine_n opposite_a and_o contradictory_n to_o persuade_v the_o reader_n that_o our_o author_n allow_v contradiction_n to_o he_o true_a he_o leave_v out_o the_o word_n seem_o as_o also_o also_o 21._o which_o seem_v to_o we_o to_o include_v a_o contradiction_n take_v notice_n therefore_o that_o no_o catholic_n affirm_v that_o god_n can_v make_v two_o contradictory_n to_o be_v true_a and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o contradiction_n in_o their_o doctrine_n of_o the_o eucharist_n but_o they_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v plain_o reveal_v by_o our_o saviour_n own_o word_n and_o st._n paul_n v._o forego_v discourse_n p._n 18_o pag._n 21._o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n do_v as_o much_o violence_n to_o philosophy_n as_o transubstantiation_n but_o transubstantiation_n be_v a_o contradiction_n pag._n 25._o bishop_n andrews_n famous_a say_n which_o the_o
replier_n will_v false_o translate_v or_o interpret_v the_o real_a presence_n which_o we_o hold_v be_v as_o real_a as_o the_o corporal_n which_o the_o papist_n hold_v which_o proposition_n be_v both_o false_a in_o itself_o and_o false_o father_v upon_o bishop_n andrews_n for_o they_o who_o believe_v only_o a_o figurative_a presence_n believe_v not_o so_o much_o as_o they_o who_o believe_v a_o real_a also_o for_o it_o be_v to_o say_v that_o he_o who_o believe_v a_o real_a absence_n believe_v a_o real_a presence_n pag._n 27._o marg._n christ_n be_v make_v in_o all_o thing_n like_v to_o we_o in_o his_o incarnation_n that_o we_o may_v be_v make_v like_o to_o he_o in_o his_o glorification_n in_o his_o incarnation_n a_o natural_a body_n with_o the_o like_a imperfection_n suffering_n etc._n etc._n in_o his_o glorification_n a_o spiritual_a body_n the_o heaven_n must_v contain_v he_o the_o word_n be_v not_o contain_v but_o receive_v he_o that_o his_o body_n which_o be_v not_o now_o endow_v with_o natural_a property_n but_o spiritual_a be_v in_o heaven_n no_o catholic_n deny_v for_o that_o will_v be_v against_o the_o creed_n but_o they_o say_v that_o he_o be_v both_o in_o heaven_n and_o in_o the_o eucharist_n or_o else_o what_o need_v all_o this_o discourse_n about_o his_o be_v in_o several_a place_n at_o once_o pag._n 28._o will_v he_o not_o wonder_v that_o st._n austin_n our_o author_n quotation_n out_o of_o st._n austin_n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la be_v true_a and_o pertinent_a our_o replier_n himself_n p_o 29._o seem_v not_o to_o dare_v affirm_v that_o a_o spirit_n can_v be_v in_o several_a place_n or_o ubi'_v but_o if_o it_o be_v a_o contradiction_n s._n austin_n need_v not_o inquire_v if_o not_o a_o coutradiction_n neither_o be_v it_o for_o a_o spiritual_a body_n to_o be_v so_o so_o that_o it_o matter_n not_o whether_o the_o martyr_n body_n be_v speak_v of_o by_o st._n austin_n nor_o do_v the_o quotation_n bring_v by_o our_o replier_n out_o of_o st._n austin_n ep._n 57_o ad_fw-la dardanum_n nor_o that_o of_o tract_n 31._o in_o johan_n in_o the_o least_o contradict_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n but_o that_o in_o tract_n 30._o in_o joh._n be_v perfect_o against_o the_o replier_n for_o after_o that_o s._n austin_n have_v say_v that_o our_o lord_n be_v in_o divers_a place_n in_o heaven_n and_o earth_n in_o his_o life_n time_n by_o the_o omnipotence_n of_o almighty_a god_n he_o say_v that_o homo_fw-la indeed_o secundum_fw-la corpus_fw-la in_o loco_fw-la est_fw-la &_o de_fw-fr loco_fw-la migrat_fw-la &_o cum_fw-la ad_fw-la alium_fw-la locum_fw-la venerit_fw-la in_fw-la eo_fw-la loco_fw-la unde_fw-la venit_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la he_o speak_v here_o of_o man_n in_o this_o natural_a state_n which_o be_v most_o true_a if_o no_o miracle_n interpose_v but_o concern_v our_o saviour_n he_o have_v say_v before_o that_o he_o be_v whilst_o upon_o earth_n in_o heaven_n also_o by_o the_o power_n of_o god._n pag._n 29._o a_o contradiction_n for_o a_o body_n to_o be_v local_o in_o one_o place_n and_o real_o receive_v in_o another_o what_o the_o author_n say_v be_v most_o true_a what_o the_o reply_o substitute_n be_v neither_o the_o author_n nor_o common_a sense_n but_o it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o to_o say_v the_o real_a substantial_a body_n of_o our_o lord_n be_v only_o in_o heaven_n and_o the_o same_o body_n to_o be_v real_o receive_v upon_o earth_n be_v as_o much_o a_o contradiction_n as_o to_o say_v the_o natural_a essential_a body_n of_o our_o lord_n be_v real_o in_o several_a place_n which_o be_v none_o at_o all_o thus_o have_v i_o with_o very_o great_a taedium_fw-la justify_v our_o author_n against_o the_o reply_o what_o remain_v be_v either_o repetition_n of_o what_o be_v say_v before_o or_o concern_v the_o subject_n of_o adoration_n concern_v which_o if_o it_o please_v god_n to_o continue_v our_o strength_n we_o shall_v not_o be_v long_o in_o his_o debt_n corrigenda_fw-la &_o addenda_fw-la pag._n line_n  _fw-fr 11._o 20._o p._n 54._o 72._o 18._o 28._o to_o body_n 28._o 2._o deal_n in_o the_o quotation_n set_v down_o above_o p._n 50._o 34._o 35._o obs_n 3._o p._n 13._o 51._o 28._o p._n 49._o 50._o the_o place_n 52._o 14._o before_o p._n 35._o 54._o 4._o deal_n p._n 123._o 54._o 23._o opinion_n p._n 69._o 64._o 13._o christus_fw-la non_fw-la jubet_fw-la 71._o 6._o etc._n etc._n see_v p._n 60._o 71._o 19_o observation_n p._n 19_o  _fw-fr 21._o cross_a p._n 75._o 80._o 17._o take_v passive_o 87._o 23._o quotation_n p._n 48._o 108._o 19_o of_o suarez_n p._n 105._o 110._o 24._o above_o p._n 102._o 129._o 33._o there_o confute_v it_o 133._o 1._o comes_z more_o peace_n 148._o 13._o bishop_n poinet_n