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confuse_o in_o his_o answ_n p._n 39_o 40._o and_o though_o when_o reason_n be_v to_o manage_v the_o business_n we_o be_v to_o expect_v nothing_o but_o contradiction_n from_o this_o dr._n as_o himself_o have_v ample_o inform_v we_o yet_o be_v now_o get_v into_o his_o own_o element_n of_o comon-place-book_n testimony-parcel_n we_o must_v imagine_v his_o art_n be_v at_o its_o vertical_a height_n the_o first_o be_v from_o s._n ambrose_n on_o gal._n 2._o 8._o which_o i_o shall_v transcribe_v as_o i_o find_v it_o cite_v by_o he_o pétrum_fw-la solum_fw-la nominat_fw-la ac_fw-la sibi_fw-la comparat_fw-la quia_fw-la primatum_fw-la ipse_fw-la acceperat_fw-la ad_fw-la fundandam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la se_fw-la quoque_fw-la pari_fw-la modo_fw-la electum_fw-la ut_fw-la primatum_fw-la habeat_fw-la in_o fundandis_fw-la gentium_fw-la ecclesiis_fw-la he_o name_v peter_n alone_a &_o compare_v he_o to_o himself_o because_o he_o have_v receive_v the_o primacy_n to_o found_v the_o church_n and_o he_o 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gentile_n and_o not_o of_o s._n peter_n from_o any_o who_o be_v not_o particularise_v here_o at_o all_o to_o any_o part_n or_o portion_n of_o the_o church_n but_o extend_v to_o all_o unless_o d._n h._n will_v say_v that_o the_o word_n ecclesia_fw-la church_n signify_v a_o piece_n of_o the_o church_n only_o this_o testimony_n therefore_o may_v serve_v to_o some_o purpose_n be_v it_o bring_v to_o prove_v that_o s._n peter_n jurisdiction_n be_v universal_a &_o s._n paul_n limit_v but_o to_o prove_v s._n peter_n limit_v from_o word_n that_o extend_v it_o to_o the_o church_n without_o any_o note_n of_o limitation_n at_o all_o find_v there_o be_v still_o dr._n h_n old_a &_o bold_a trick_n of_o gull_a the_o reader_n to_o his_o face_n with_o out_o either_o shame_n or_o conscience_n second_o the_o comparison_n between_o those_o two_o apostle_n and_o the_o pari_fw-la modo_fw-la electus_fw-la if_o we_o will_v stand_v to_o the_o word_n in_o the_o testimony_n make_v this_o sense_n as_o apply_v to_o 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he_o whether_o the_o place_n he_o allege_v be_v indifferent_a for_o he_o or_o against_o he_o as_o have_v be_v show_v all_o over_o in_o schism_n disarm_v so_o he_o can_v dazzle_v a_o vulgar_a head_a reader_n eye_n with_o the_o glorious_a pretence_n of_o a_o father_n or_o councill_n testimony_n and_o make_v way_n to_o introduce_v it_o by_o some_o voluntary_a and_o boldly-promising_a preamble_n of_o his_o own_o as_o he_o do_v at_o present_a assure_v we_o here_o answ_n p._n 39_o l._n 35._o that_o these_o word_n of_o s._n ambrose_n be_v plain_a but_o whether_o plain_a for_o he_o or_o plain_o against_o he_o it_o matter_n not_o with_o he_o and_o that_o in_o they_o s._n ambr._n assert_v all_o that_o be_v either_o his_o purpose_n or_o interest_n to_o affirm_v as_o if_o it_o be_v either_o dr._n h_n intent_n or_o his_o advantage_n to_o conclude_v s._n peter_n over_o the_o church_n without_o any_o limitation_n put_v down_o that_o be_v over_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o s._n paul_n over_o the_o gentile_n only_o and_o so_o under_o he_o the_o second_o testimony_n be_v from_o s._n chrysostom_n say_v that_o s._n paul_n demonstrate_v himself_o to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d equal_a to_o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o compare_v himself_o with_o peter_n the_o chief_a of_o they_o thus_o he_o in_o answer_n first_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d come_v from_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o signify_v any_o kind_n of_o extrinsecall_a honour_n whether_o it_o spring_v from_o better_a part_n great_a efficacy_n more_o industry_n in_o preach_v or_o from_o what_o so_o ever_o cause_n and_o not_o only_o from_o dignity_n of_o jurisdiction_n it_o follow_v likewise_o that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d take_v in_o its_o self_n as_o indifferent_o appliable_a by_o circumstance_n to_o signify_v a_o equality_n in_o any_o of_o the_o former_a respect_n as_o it_o be_v to_o signify_v a_o equality_n in_o the_o latter_a of_o jurisdiction_n and_o the_o like_a may_v be_v say_v of_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d since_o of_o itself_o it_o only_a signify_v that_o s._n paul_n compare_v himself_o to_o s._n peter_n but_o in_o which_o of_o the_o former_a regard_v this_o comparison_n be_v make_v the_o general_a signification_n of_o the_o word_n leave_v indifferent_a and_o to_o be_v deermine_v by_o circumstance_n second_o the_o best_a circumstance_n to_o judge_v what_o this_o word_n shall_v signify_v in_o that_o place_n be_v the_o subjecta_fw-la materia_fw-la or_o place_v itself_o of_o which_o this_o be_v the_o explication_n which_o be_v gal._n 2_o 8._o where_o there_o be_v nothing_o at_o all_o relate_n to_o jurisdiction_n but_o to_o efficatiousness_n in_o preach_v to_o jew_n and_o gentile_n of_o this_o therefore_o the_o comparison_n between_o these_o two_o apostle_n must_v be_v understand_v in_o this_o respect_n only_o must_v they_o necessary_o be_v signify_v by_o these_o word_n to_o have_v be_v equally-dignified_n and_o not_o in_o jurisdiction_n or_o govern_v power_n which_o be_v not_o there_o speak_v of_o three_o that_o this_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o it_o be_v clear_o show_v by_o the_o follow_a testimony_n which_o be_v his_o three_o out_o of_o theophylact_fw-mi who_o for_o the_o most_o part_n transcribe_v out_o of_o and_o follow_v s._n chrysostom_n it_o be_v this_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o show_v himself_o equal_a 〈◊〉_d peter_n which_o word_v d._n h._n cite_v but_o leave_v out_o the_o word_n immediate_o follow_v lest_o they_o shall_v quite_o spoil_v his_o pretence_n of_o prove_v out_o equality_n of_o power_n from_o the_o other_o the_o follow_a word_n be_v these_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o that_o the_o testimony_n take_v entire_o be_v this_o he_o show_v himself_o equal_o honour_v with_o peter_n for_o he_o who_o have_v give_v to_o peter_n efficacy_n of_o preach_v to_o the_o jew_n give_v i_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o
dr._n when_o he_o say_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o set_v to_o denote_v all_o the_o several_a sort_n of_o caetus_fw-la in_o asia_n i_o ask_v doâ—s_v it_o exclude_v any_o or_o be_v it_o set_v in_o opposition_n to_o the_o jew_n if_o not_o how_o can_v it_o possible_o signify_v the_o gentile_a part_n only_o for_o which_o he_o produce_v it_o my_o blindness_n then_o reader_n consist_v in_o this_o that_o i_o will_v not_o renounce_v the_o most_o common_a light_n of_o nature_n &_o think_v that_o a_o whole_a &_o a_o part_n be_v the_o same_o nor_o consent_v to_o believe_v that_o the_o word_n a_o whole_a entire_a nation_n signify_v one_o sort_n of_o people_n live_v there_o or_o part_n of_o that_o nation_n only_o in_o order_n to_o these_o late_a testimony_n it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v first_o that_o our_o tenet_n make_v the_o pope_n over_o the_o whole_a church_n in_o this_o sense_n not_o that_o he_o govern_v each_o particular_a church_n immediate_o but_o that_o he_o be_v chief_a in_o authority_n &_o over_o those_o inferior_a bishop_n metropolitan_o etc._n etc._n who_o be_v the_o immediate_a governor_n of_o those_o particular_a church_n and_o so_o he_o become_v mediate_o in_o this_o sense_n over_o all_o church_n or_o the_o whole_a church_n second_o our_o parallel_n tenet_n of_o s._n peter_n be_v not_o that_o when_o he_o be_v apostle_n he_o can_v preach_v in_o more_o place_n than_o another_o but_o that_o he_o have_v a_o high_a authority_n than_o the_o other_o each_o of_o which_o can_v preach_v in_o any_o or_o all_o place_n of_o the_o world_n and_o that_o when_o he_o be_v fix_v bishop_n he_o have_v a_o influence_n of_o authority_n over_o any_o other_o apostle_n when_o they_o be_v fix_v bishop_n in_o other_o place_n not_o that_o he_o be_v immediate_a bishop_n or_o metropolitan_a of_o their_o particular_a bishopric_n three_o hence_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o proof_n which_o can_v prejudice_v this_o point_n must_v signify_v that_o those_o particular_a apostle_n metropolitan_n or_o bishop_n have_v none_o superior_a to_o themselves_o and_o by_o consequence_n who_o be_v mediate_o over_o their_o church_n and_o that_o it_o avail_v nothing_o at_o all_o nor_o come_v to_o the_o point_n to_o prove_v that_o such_o &_o such_o be_v over_o such_o &_o such_o particular_a jurisdiction_n immediate_o no_o more_o than_o if_o some_o writer_n 500_o year_n hence_o shall_v argue_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v not_o in_o the_o year_n 1650._o supreme_a governor_n in_o our_o church_n because_o he_o find_v at_o that_o time_n such_o a_o one_o primate_n in_o france_n &_o another_o archbishop_n of_o toledo_n in_o spain_n four_o it_o be_v no_o less_o evident_a that_o dr._n h_n pretence_n that_o it_o be_v manifest_v that_o s._n peter_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v either_o mediate_o or_o immediate_o in_o govern_v the_o church_n of_o asia_n from_o the_o former_a testimony_n which_o express_v only_o that_o those_o church_n or_o that_o country_n be_v under_o those_o apostle_n or_o bishop_n without_o a_o syllable_n signify_v that_o those_o apostle_n themselves_o be_v not_o under_o a_o high_a apostle_n and_o so_o their_o church_n mediate_o subject_a to_o he_o it_o be_v evident_a i_o say_v that_o he_o have_v not_o produce_v a_o word_n to_o prove_v his_o position_n except_o his_o own_o it_o be_v manifest_a and_o consequent_o it_o be_v no_o artificial_a trick_n but_o plain_a downright_a natural_a truth_n to_o challenge_v he_o with_o that_o palpable_a weakness_n five_o his_o whole_a process_n be_v in_o another_o respect_n total_o impertinent_a &_o frivolous_a his_o fundamental_a intent_n be_v to_o limit_v the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o such_o &_o to_o make_v they_o mutually-exclusive_a under_o that_o notion_n by_o give_v to_o each_o proper_a apostolical_a province_n and_o here_o proceed_v to_o make_v good_a that_o his_o intent_n he_o prove_v they_o limit_v as_o they_o be_v bishop_n which_o be_v a_o quite_o different_a thing_n for_o every_o bishop_n as_o such_o be_v over_o his_o own_o peculiar_a flock_n and_o particularise_v to_o it_o where_o as_o that_o of_o a_o apostle_n be_v not_o a_o settle_a authority_n as_o the_o other_o have_v not_o in_o its_o own_o nature_n any_o ground_n to_o be_v constant_a to_o such_o but_o may_v be_v promiscuous_a to_o all_o though_o it_o be_v not_o forbid_v to_o any_o apostle_n to_o settle_v himself_o in_o some_o particular_a seat_n &_o so_o become_v a_o bishop_n of_o that_o place_n the_o result_n then_o of_o all_o the_o former_a testimony_n be_v this_o that_o dr._n h._n avoyd_n the_o whole_a question_n of_o the_o mediate_a government_n of_o s._n peter_n which_o be_v the_o point_n his_o adversary_n hold_v and_o disprove_v the_o immediate_a only_a which_o we_o never_o hold_v and_o when_o he_o have_v do_v tell_v his_o reader_n answer_v p._n 56._o s._n w._n have_v little_a care_n to_o consider_v that_o wherein_o the_o difficulty_n consist_v when_o as_o himself_o never_o touch_v the_o difficulty_n at_o all_o but_o i_o have_v forget_v the_o beginning_n of_o his_o 14._o par_fw-fr that_o s._n john_n have_v the_o dignity_n of_o place_n before_o all_o other_o in_o christ_n life_n time_n even_o before_o s._n peter_n himself_o now_o i_o go_v about_o to_o parallel_v it_o by_o the_o proportion_n a_o elder_a brother_n have_v to_o a_o young_a which_o be_v a_o precedence_n without_o jurisdiction_n &_o so_o resemble_v dr._n h_n dry_a primacy_n but_o the_o dr._n answ_n p._n 55._o catch_v my_o similitude_n by_o one_o of_o those_o foot_n by_o which_o it_o be_v not_o pretend_v to_o run_v add'_v to_o it_o excellency_n of_o power_n of_o his_o own_o head_n which_o be_v never_o name_v nor_o insist_v on_o by_o i_o and_o when_o he_o have_v do_v say_v that_o it_o be_v a_o addition_n of_o my_o fertile_a fancy_n whereas_o i_o never_o pretend_v it_o as_o his_o word_n but_o my_o parallel_n nor_o yet_o put_v force_n in_o the_o superiority_n of_o jurisdiction_n but_o in_o that_o of_o a_o dry_a 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they_o be_v become_v christian_n and_o their_o fellow-brother_n in_o he_o in_o who_o they_o be_v teach_v there_o be_v no_o distinction_n of_o jew_n nor_o gentile_n which_o sound_v a_o far_o great_a absurdity_n in_o a_o christian_a ear_n than_o to_o say_v that_o they_o likewise_o abhor_v still_o the_o conversation_n of_o the_o proselyte_n to_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n after_o their_o conversion_n &_o that_o those_o one_o hundred_o fifty_o three_o thousand_o workman_n who_o live_v disperse_v among_o the_o jew_n in_o salomon_n time_n neither_o converse_v with_o their_o neighbour_n jew_n nor_o take_v direction_n how_o to_o order_v their_o labour_n towards_o the_o build_n of_o salomon_n temple_n but_o do_v their_o work_n by_o instinct_n and_o the_o guidance_n of_o the_o private_a spirit_n as_o dr._n h._n interpret_v scripture_n sectio_fw-la 16._o how_o dr._n h._n omitt_v to_o clear_v himself_o of_o falsify_v the_o apostolical_a constitution_n and_o to_o take_v notice_n of_o all_o the_o exception_n bring_v against_o that_o testimony_n in_o schism_n disarm_v his_o acute_a manner_n of_o argue_v as_o also_o how_o he_o bring_v a_o testimony_n against_o he_o in_o every_o particular_a to_o make_v good_a all_o his_o former_a proof_n and_o by_o what_o be_v he_o make_v it_o speak_v for_o he_o the_o next_o testimony_n of_o mr._n h's_o which_o come_v under_o examination_n be_v take_v from_o the_o writer_n of_o the_o apostolical_a constitution_n who_o tell_v we_o according_a to_o dr._n h._n of_o schism_n p._n 75._o that_o evodâ—us_a &_o ignatius_n at_o the_o same_o time_n sit_v bishop_n at_o antioch_n one_o succeed_v s._n peter_n the_o other_o s._n paul_n one_o in_o the_o jewish_a the_o other_o in_o the_o gentile_a congregation_n now_o if_o that_o writer_n tell_v we_o no_o such_o thing_n no_o not_o a_o word_n of_o this_o long_a rabble_n be_v it_o possible_a dr._n h._n can_v deny_v himself_o to_o be_v a_o manifest_a &_o wilful_a falsifier_n schism_n disarm_v challenge_v he_o 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mr._n h._n yet_o in_o return_n he_o offer_v not_o one_o word_n to_o clear_v himself_o reply_v c._n 4._o sect_n 7._o the_o place_n whither_o answ_n p._n 48._o l._n 31._o 32._o he_o refer_v i_o for_o answer_v to_o this_o point_n nor_o to_o show_v we_o that_o that_o writer_n tell_v we_o what_o he_o so_o large_o promise_v we_o of_o schism_n p._n 75._o only_a in_o his_o answer_n p._n 48._o he_o assure_v we_o that_o in_o his_o reply_n the_o whole_a matter_n of_o euodius_n &_o ignatius_n be_v further_o clear_v as_o if_o he_o have_v clear_v it_o already_o and_o s._n we_o be_v elaborate_a misunderstanding_n forestall_v he_o shall_v have_v say_v misreading_n for_o it_o be_v my_o eye_n &_o not_o my_o understanding_n which_o fail_v i_o if_o he_o have_v not_o add_v to_o this_o testimony_n all_o which_o make_v for_o his_o purpose_n four_o observation_n i_o shall_v recomend_v the_o reader_n to_o let_v he_o see_v that_o this_o insincerity_n in_o dr._n h._n be_v affect_v &_o voluntary_a first_o the_o 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adversary_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v leave_v unreply_v upon_o in_o this_o his_o answer_n to_o schism_n disarm_v in_o which_o treatise_n p._n 66._o i_o object_v all_o these_o weakness_n in_o this_o one_o point_n first_o that_o be_v it_o grant_v that_o two_o sit_v together_o it_o will_v not_o serve_v his_o turn_n a_o iott_n the_o more_o for_o what_o will_v he_o infer_v hence_o that_o s._n peter_n &_o s._n paul_n be_v distinct_a bishop_n there_o also_o grant_v this_o too_o what_o follow_v hence_o against_o the_o pope_n authory_n i_o know_v his_o intent_n be_v to_o conclude_v hereupon_o that_o therefore_o s._n peter_n &_o s._n paul_n have_v exclusive_a jurisdiction_n at_o antioch_n therefore_o s._n peter_n jurisdiction_n be_v limit_v therefore_o the_o pope_n have_v not_o a_o illimitted_a one_o but_o how_o do_v the_o one_o
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