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a_o bare_a extrinsical_a denomination_n add_v to_o it_o but_o however_o they_o hold_v it_o such_o as_o can_v no_o more_o be_v take_v away_o than_o the_o character_n of_o priesthood_n 2._o cardinal_n bonaventure_n say_v that_o the_o validity_n of_o sacrament_n among_o heretic_n be_v a_o question_n much_o in_o dispute_n among_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n but_o that_o it_o have_v be_v determine_v by_o st._n augustin_n that_o they_o be_v valid_a if_o they_o preserve_v the_o essential_o of_o they_o and_o in_o the_o matter_n of_o ordination_n he_o say_v that_o the_o power_n of_o order_n although_o it_o be_v not_o a_o distinct_a character_n yet_o because_o it_o be_v build_v upon_o it_o can_v no_o more_o be_v take_v away_o than_o the_o character_n itself_o but_o whatever_o be_v found_v upon_o jurisdiction_n as_o the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n and_o absolution_n may_v be_v take_v away_o but_o i_o need_v not_o mention_v any_o more_o particular_a writer_n since_o morinus_n acknowledge_v 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